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    Quote Originally Posted by squark View Post
    As for Cuiv's type - I find the whole "need to find a mate and breed" thing and the way he's going about it rather cold and formal, like he's looking to fill a job position.
    I have a clear aim in mind every time I talk to someone. However I am very aware of how I feel about other people - I will have vivid, aesthetic visions where I imagine them doing things with me according to the goal I have in mind (this may not necessarily be sexual, but it often is). If I come across as cold, it is mainly because I can be impatient when I'm misunderstood and/or if someone doesn't follow my lead and act as I want. I am also quite detached from the physical world, much more than a typical EJ type, so I can't always articulate my ideas with as much lucidity as I'd like in words. I find music to be a useful way to work around this. There are non-verbal ways to express yourself creatively.

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    It might just be sp + horniness in overdrive. I'm not seeing the Fe in what he says regardless of the colorful way he may describe things as it all comes down to sounding more like an elk in rutting season than anything else. There's no subtlety to it. No nuance or play in his words or emotional tug.
    Nuance and complex wordplay are what you'd expect to see from an Ne ego, but not really from a Ni ego and especially not a Ni Rational. You seem to strongly value these traits in courtship, so perhaps you should consider SLI as a type.

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    It's all rather straightforward, "someone please throw yourself at me and rape me." My 2c
    A woman who was determined enough to restrain me physically would impress me. No ropes or Rohypnol though - that would be cheating
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuivienen View Post
    Nuance and complex wordplay are what you'd expect to see from an Ne ego
    Emotional nuance is Fe, which is what I was referring to. You have very little of this imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squark View Post
    Emotional nuance is Fe, which is what I was referring to. You have very little of this imo.
    Nuance and politeness are not the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuivienen View Post
    Nuance and politeness are not the same thing.
    No shit. Nobody said they were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squark View Post
    No shit. Nobody said they were.
    What you're objecting to is the vivid, brash way I often talk about sex-related things when I feel playful - partly to let off steam, partly to tease the many people who I know are averse to such impolitic, provocative behaviour. You have expressed a desire for politeness/courtesy in potential partners. Emotional nuance or subtlety, however, refers to the use of metaphor and simile rich, in other words poetic language, drawing analogies and connections between the abstract and the concrete. EIE is certainly not the most adept type at this, because Fe focuses on the emotions of others not those of the self. If you seek emotional nuance look no further than EII.

    I really am beginning to suspect that you are an SLI, rather than an LSI, based on these responses. Your dislikes are very odd for Beta Quadra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuivienen View Post
    What you're objecting to is the vivid, brash way I often talk about sex-related things when I feel playful
    No. That would be incorrect. Read what I wrote again.

    I wasn't talking about what you've DONE or SAID, but rather what you LACK.

    When you make all these statements they come across to me as having no feeling in them. You're not creating any kind of emotion with your words. They're just flat statements about your horniness. There's no teasing in it, you're not drawing anyone in or coming across as playful at all to me. Just kind of . . . well, lacking. Cold and flat. Matter-of-fact. You seem to equate being turned on with passion, but passion involves the heart as well imo, and that's what I don't see. No emotion is being evoked at all, imo.

    The other statements you've made about me are also false, but I don't believe this thread is about my type now is it? Nice attempt to redirect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squark View Post
    No. That would be incorrect. Read what I wrote again.

    I wasn't talking about what you've DONE or SAID, but rather what you LACK.

    When you make all these statements they come across to me as having no feeling in them. You're not creating any kind of emotion with your words. They're just flat statements about your horniness.

    There's no teasing in it, you're not drawing anyone in or coming across as playful at all to me. Just kind of . . . well, lacking. Cold and flat. Matter-of-fact. You seem to equate being turned on with passion, but passion involves the heart as well imo, and that's what I don't see. No emotion is being evoked at all, imo.
    You have fallen into a trap, which is to assume that something you can't see, touch, taste, hear or smell for yourself, right now, cannot exist.

    For this reason, it is hard to take your latest offering very seriously. I frequently behave in a teasing and provocative manner around the forum (I'm doing it right now, in case you haven't noticed) and I do enjoy it. A lot. But of course my approach will depend on my mood and what kind of reactions I intend to create. Therefore, if I come across as cold or formal, it's usually because I'm either engaged in a discussion which I consider to be serious - like when people are not being mean-spirited - or because I am tired, burnt out etc. You aren't going to be made aware of this, of course, so you have to intuit it. I mean, I can't be expected to lay everything out on a plate for people. If I come across as cool/callous perhaps you should consider the fact that you lack valuable information (tone of voice, facial expressions, you get the idea) which could give cues about my character. You could also consider that you come across as rigid, cold and defensive to me, and that I might just be mirroring those vibes straight back to you.

    It is easy to fall back on stereotypes and assume the worst, and that's what I feel you are doing with me. Everyone needs to take a slow, deep breath, relax and stop being so hostile when it's unwarranted.

    Quote Originally Posted by squark View Post
    The other statements you've made about me are also false, but I don't believe this thread is about my type now is it? Nice attempt to redirect.
    You do have a point, this thread isn't about your type. I will resist temptation
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