Socionics For Dummies
This thread is a dumpster of all kinds of tongue-in-cheek guidelines about Socionics, in the stereotypical style of Olimpia/Medusa/Cassandra/Sisofnight.
I will most likely also include Enneagram related "nuggets of wisdom".
Enjoy.
P.S.: Don't take everything I'll say here too seriously... if you can.
If you have to someone irrational friendly feelings and personal trust - he can be your dual. O not to be because of non-types factors. Yea, life can be difficult.
they do this with own "logic"Originally Posted by Olimpia
Romance styles are real, but so are natural dynamics... Women cannot penetrate people with their vaginas, so... Take sex differences into account.
But what if they are using a strap on? Or they might be a futanari.
These exceptions disprove the rule.
If you are proud of being an intuitive, your self esteem is either incredibly fragile and Low and that's the only way you feel good about yourself, or most likely you are just a try hard sensor.
If you don't suck at physical appearance stuff in some way, you are not an intuitive. However, the reverse doesn't apply.
This is most likely associated with Fe, not any Intuitive function
Just because you get what you self type as as your test result, doesn't mean it's true.
Most tests only give clues about how you (ideally) see yourself or what IEs you may value or what functional strengths you may have. But it's rare that a test gives you signs of all three. It's usually one of the three.
Agree with this. It's definitely the approach I'd recommend. The descriptions are only meant imo to flesh out ways that the elements can show up, to use as examples. People can get imo too caught up in behavioral aspects and neglect to look at the actual thought processes. Focusing primarily on the IEs can help bring cognition itself back into focus.
Socionics is about how to do not spend your love on those who do not deserve it.
You are IEI when you think that types are not important as you may dream yourself as a dual or a unicorn.
Do not underestimate types to use weak functionsT types may study ethical skills like F types may study the math and technics.
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The ones in opposite quadra may to be people too.
Socionics is not a game. It should not be fun. Be prepared for a pain and a humilation.
If something does not fit to your opinion about someone's type then just ignore that. No one cares about your opinion, anyway.
Socionics was made in USSR
so to understand it good you need 2 important components
vodka and balalaika
If you are a noob (in case you don't identify types regularly and better IRL for years - don't flatter to yourself, you are such) then you have no enough experience and sometimes even basic theory knowledge to be reasonably sure in your opinion about your type, or someone's else type. So when you get a disagreement with this opinion - you are starting to get significant doubts. Taking that real typing matches are <20% - it's rather common when a noob mistakes in a type - so to see disagreements about types is common too. This problem makes many noobs significantly upset. Especially with F types, as to be sure in T region about types is harder for them.
The popular way to supress the reasonable criticism is emotions! Just blame, insult, bark at your opponent. Emotions is the good way to supress the thinking and hence doubts too. You'll feel better with keeping your opinion! It's also useful to start personal relations with other noobs on a forum who agree with your opinion - so you'll be geting emotional support for that opinion and mb even a support in collective barking against those who disagree with you.
It's especially useful to establish personal relations with a mod, who generally are same noobs and understand your problems, - to ask him to ban or assign censorship restrictions to those who disagee with you - to do this against the rules. Suprisingly, they often do so just to give you a pleasure and such to support further pleasant flooding with you. As it's hard for noobs to discuss, to understand and to use the typology good - but to flood they may good and mainly use forums for this. Ideally, would be to ask change the rules (unofficial forum's requirements, at least) to forbid disageements with you - to forbid discuss types on a typology forum. It's more suprisingly there exist such cases - typology forums where to say opinions about types is partly forbidden. As noobs are the majority on all typology forums, so it's doubtful there is a popular forum without illegal or by rules/requirements a typology censorship.
If to take enough of drugs or alcohol then any heretical theory about types will start to work!
No, not all ESIs are stuck up traditional house wives type 6 style. You can safely ignore those descriptions. Unless you're looking for a Russian ESI 6 wife. Then by all means, indulge in them.
When a guy is aggressively pursuing you, it's safe to say he's not a Victim type. Unless he's LIE 8. Like Christian Grey. Yay.
What? Isn't Christian Grey into bondage? And isn't bondage mostly Delta?
I will admit, I can't think of a single instance of which I'm personally aware where a Victim type actively chased an Aggressor*. Except me, and I actually am an LIE e8. But I'm not into bondage.
FWIW, if a woman actively chases me, as opposed to simply saying Yes (mostly) to my suggestions for closer relations, I tend to panic. That might be traceable to my being smothered for many years by my LSE mother. As the twig is bent, so grows the tree.
Hence, I want to do the chasing. Absolutely at first. But I also want the chasing to be accepted and reciprocated.
*I was going out with an IEI female who was the first one to hint that maybe we should consider each other in our future relationship plans, but that's pretty far from being an Aggressor.
First of, Christian Grey is a female fantasy. That already skews things.
Having said that, he's indeed LIE-Te in my estimation. He clearly values Se. His Se HA is off the charts. And he's very much a pseudo aggressor gone wild. He's as Aggressor as an LIE could ever be. Which is likely unrealistic.
Yeah it's mostly true that a lot of bondage enthusiasts are Delta, but not exclusively so...
If you see the most attractive, bright and enigmatic woman - it's... your conflictor.
no. all stuff was taken by Beta, already
> FWIW, if a woman actively chases me, as opposed to simply saying Yes (mostly) to my suggestions for closer relations, I tend to panic
Se types treat like "victims" anyone. it's better to relax and get pleasure
> Hence, I want to do the chasing. Absolutely at first. But I also want the chasing to be accepted and reciprocated.
LIE show how competent, smart and friendly they are. then be prepared for her jump
you just... you just mistyped them!
lol, isnt christrian a weird SLI with a dark past and he obsesses over. i didnt really see how he was extroverted i think they are SLI-IEE pair maybe
Type 9s easily can come across as having weak Se and/or stronger Fe without necessarily being so.
On a similar token, types with weakened Se often seem core 9 without necessarily being so.
"The love of your life" is not automatically your Dual.
On the same token, people who you find the most attractive are not automatically your Dual. (See Imago.)
Don't base your self typing on who you find attractive. It will most likely result in a mistyping.
Again. Type your Ego functions.
All females on this forum are ESI, unless there's evidence for the contrary.
Note: Evidence doesn't exist for Te PoLR.
Definitely disagree with this one, many IEIs I know are extremely stylish, pretty and neat in the way they are put together. Also met quite a few IEEs, EIIs and EIEs who are extremely good looking/ have an amazing sense of fashion. And I have met sensors that don't look very good/ sometimes even lack in hygiene.
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IEI are more coquettish so some unmarried may pay more attention to the look than EII. But IEI I know mostly use common style. EII have lesser wish to attract men attention, they just want to look decent.
> an amazing sense of fashion
IEI have no "amazing sense of fashion"
the example of "amazing" IEI taste
NFs also tend to like aesthetics/fashion/art stuff and indulge in it.. not only SFs.IEI are more coquettish so some unmarried may pay more attention to the look than EII. But IEI I know mostly use common style. EII have lesser wish to attract men attention, they just want to look decent.
> an amazing sense of fashion
IEI have no "amazing sense of fashion"
the example of "amazing" IEI taste
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There is sense of good taste. While all those "fashion" is just marketing bs to sell more clothes. If someone systematically take clothes to fit "fashion" = has no own taste.
Having Si as role function, it's expected more girls try to fit to some "fashion", as having wish to fit while having no own good understanding about appropriate. It's not taste, it's the lack of it.
Also types which you think are doubtful there.
I've shown the example of own IEI taste above - they all are such, just don't show them journals where they can copy the looks. They may take clothes like clowns by their "amazing taste". Looks cute, feminine, but also funny and childish - such are weak functions.
I'd look who are those "hundreds/thousands" to take seriously their opinion. They should to have wide knowledge to compare with the existing and own good aesthetic taste, - then we may say about objectivity. If those are brainless teenager fans in a marketing subculture - they are bad for objectivity.
Also we need to know the source for opinion of the experts near which the fan-club is, as if they get external help - they express not their own opinion in significant degree.
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If you are a "pussy", chances are you are either type 9 (core or at least wing) and/or IxFx.
No, extroverted 5s don't exist.
No, introverted 7s don't exist.
If you self type as ILE 5, you are likely LII-Ne 5.
If you self type as Ixxx 7, something's wrong with you. You are probably a try hard 9 or 5. Stop it.
LSI-Se 7 exists. You're wrong.
No, I mean 7w6You mean 6w7 LSI-Se ?
Yeah, they can often come across as 7 core.
When someone is a fairly intelligent and creative female ESI-Fi type 4, there's a 100% chance they'll self type as IEI.
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