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    When a guy is aggressively pursuing you, it's safe to say he's not a Victim type. Unless he's LIE 8. Like Christian Grey. Yay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olimpia View Post
    When a guy is aggressively pursuing you, it's safe to say he's not a Victim type. Unless he's LIE 8. Like Christian Grey. Yay.
    What? Isn't Christian Grey into bondage? And isn't bondage mostly Delta?

    I will admit, I can't think of a single instance of which I'm personally aware where a Victim type actively chased an Aggressor*. Except me, and I actually am an LIE e8. But I'm not into bondage.

    FWIW, if a woman actively chases me, as opposed to simply saying Yes (mostly) to my suggestions for closer relations, I tend to panic. That might be traceable to my being smothered for many years by my LSE mother. As the twig is bent, so grows the tree.

    Hence, I want to do the chasing. Absolutely at first. But I also want the chasing to be accepted and reciprocated.

    *I was going out with an IEI female who was the first one to hint that maybe we should consider each other in our future relationship plans, but that's pretty far from being an Aggressor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    What? Isn't Christian Grey into bondage? And isn't bondage mostly Delta?
    First of, Christian Grey is a female fantasy. That already skews things.

    Having said that, he's indeed LIE-Te in my estimation. He clearly values Se. His Se HA is off the charts. And he's very much a pseudo aggressor gone wild. He's as Aggressor as an LIE could ever be. Which is likely unrealistic.

    Yeah it's mostly true that a lot of bondage enthusiasts are Delta, but not exclusively so...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olimpia View Post
    First of, Christian Grey is a female fantasy. That already skews things.

    Having said that, he's indeed LIE-Te in my estimation. He clearly values Se. His Se HA is off the charts. And he's very much a pseudo aggressor gone wild. He's as Aggressor as an LIE could ever be. Which is likely unrealistic.

    Yeah it's mostly true that a lot of bondage enthusiasts are Delta, but not exclusively so...
    Maybe I should watch that movie sometime, but something about it doesn't appeal. IDK what.

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    The mysterious 3-subtype doesn't exist in real life.

    Christian Grey is a good example of an LIE-3Te. He's not real, ladies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olimpia View Post
    The mysterious 3-subtype doesn't exist in real life.

    Christian Grey is a good example of an LIE-3Te. He's not real, ladies.
    Wait, I know a guy who tested LIE-3Te. He's Iranian and single, very male but not attached, and he seems kind of gentle and ironic. He said he prefers heavier women because thin ones are, in his opinion, neurotic.

    He does seem to have a hard time making long-term life decisions, though, which I attribute to very low Ni.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    Wait, I know a guy who tested LIE-3Te. He's Iranian and single, very male but not attached, and he seems kind of gentle and ironic. He said he prefers heavier women because thin ones are, in his opinion, neurotic.
    100% chance he's mistyped.
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    If you see the most attractive, bright and enigmatic woman - it's... your conflictor.

    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    And isn't bondage mostly Delta?
    no. all stuff was taken by Beta, already

    > FWIW, if a woman actively chases me, as opposed to simply saying Yes (mostly) to my suggestions for closer relations, I tend to panic

    Se types treat like "victims" anyone. it's better to relax and get pleasure

    > Hence, I want to do the chasing. Absolutely at first. But I also want the chasing to be accepted and reciprocated.

    LIE show how competent, smart and friendly they are. then be prepared for her jump

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    No one is perfect. Not even your Dual.

    you just... you just mistyped them!

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    Alpha NTs are easy to spot. They're the typical nerds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olimpia View Post
    Alpha NTs are easy to spot. They're the typical nerds.
    Shit. I need some improvement of my disguise.

    Quote Originally Posted by Olimpia View Post
    Type 4s are easy to spot.
    Do you think alpha NT types can have a 4 fix in their tritype? Not core type, of course. NT + 4 core type would be really strange.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinnieW View Post
    Do you think alpha NT types can have a 4 fix in their tritype? Not core type, of course. NT + 4 core type would be really strange.
    In my experience, Alpha NTs can't have a 4 fix. LIEs can't, either. ILIs can.

    And yes, NT + 4 core is strange. Never met one before, and it makes little sense. It's almost as ridiculous as SEE 5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olimpia View Post
    In my experience, Alpha NTs can't have a 4 fix.
    Ok, what about a wing? 3w4 or 5w4?

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    Anyhow, he was in a continual "Ni-Ti loop", which is quite common for Inert subtype people.
    The main difference between you and Jung. You are only in a temporary Ni-Ti loop while posting here in this thread.
    In that way you seem more NT like in your expression.

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    lol, isnt christrian a weird SLI with a dark past and he obsesses over. i didnt really see how he was extroverted i think they are SLI-IEE pair maybe



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