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    Cool Socionics For Dummies

    This thread is a dumpster of all kinds of tongue-in-cheek guidelines about Socionics, in the stereotypical style of Olimpia/Medusa/Cassandra/Sisofnight.

    I will most likely also include Enneagram related "nuggets of wisdom".

    Enjoy.

    P.S.: Don't take everything I'll say here too seriously... if you can.
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    Only listen to Gulenko when he's not using a model. His models are bs. The rest is fine.
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    Romance styles are real, but so are natural dynamics... Women cannot penetrate people with their vaginas, so... Take sex differences into account.
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    If you are proud of being an intuitive, your self esteem is either incredibly fragile and Low and that's the only way you feel good about yourself, or most likely you are just a try hard sensor.
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    If you don't suck at physical appearance stuff in some way, you are not an intuitive. However, the reverse doesn't apply.
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    If you are a "pussy", chances are you are either type 9 (core or at least wing) and/or IxFx.
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    No, extroverted 5s don't exist.
    No, introverted 7s don't exist.

    If you self type as ILE 5, you are likely LII-Ne 5.
    If you self type as Ixxx 7, something's wrong with you. You are probably a try hard 9 or 5. Stop it.
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    When someone is a fairly intelligent and creative female ESI-Fi type 4, there's a 100% chance they'll self type as IEI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olimpia View Post
    If you don't suck at physical appearance stuff in some way, you are not an intuitive. However, the reverse doesn't apply.
    This is most likely associated with Fe, not any Intuitive function

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olimpia View Post
    When someone is a fairly intelligent and creative female ESI-Fi type 4, there's a 100% chance they'll self type as IEI.
    If somebody reads up on Jung’s definition of the Introverted Intuitive type and doesn’t understand it, or relate to it, they are not an IxI

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    Filatova's facial profiles should never be the foundation of V.I. or serious typing.

    Whenever someone pulls up those pics, saying "look, I look like this type" as a justification of their self typing, I'm internally facepalming myself.
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    Just because you get what you self type as as your test result, doesn't mean it's true.

    Most tests only give clues about how you (ideally) see yourself or what IEs you may value or what functional strengths you may have. But it's rare that a test gives you signs of all three. It's usually one of the three.
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    Descriptions of information elements > general descriptions of types.
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    Type your Ego functions. That's it.
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    No, not all ESIs are stuck up traditional house wives type 6 style. You can safely ignore those descriptions. Unless you're looking for a Russian ESI 6 wife. Then by all means, indulge in them.
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    When a guy is aggressively pursuing you, it's safe to say he's not a Victim type. Unless he's LIE 8. Like Christian Grey. Yay.
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    Type 9s easily can come across as having weak Se and/or stronger Fe without necessarily being so.

    On a similar token, types with weakened Se often seem core 9 without necessarily being so.
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    If you have to someone irrational friendly feelings and personal trust - he can be your dual. O not to be because of non-types factors. Yea, life can be difficult.

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    There's a huge misconception regarding Temperament and Conscientiousness.

    No, not all j types are high in conscientiousness, and not all p types are low in it.

    Or in other words, just because you're lazy and disorganized doesn't mean you are p.

    There are lazy js (mostly Ij) and industrious ps (mostly Gamma) in the world.
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    "The love of your life" is not automatically your Dual.

    On the same token, people who you find the most attractive are not automatically your Dual. (See Imago.)

    Don't base your self typing on who you find attractive. It will most likely result in a mistyping.

    Again. Type your Ego functions.
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    All females on this forum are ESI, unless there's evidence for the contrary.

    Note: Evidence doesn't exist for Te PoLR.

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    If this thread offends you, you are either Fi ego or not Se valuing.
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    If you are a male IxFx or INTx, there is a very high chance you won't end up with your Dual.

    Sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olimpia View Post
    When a guy is aggressively pursuing you, it's safe to say he's not a Victim type. Unless he's LIE 8. Like Christian Grey. Yay.
    What? Isn't Christian Grey into bondage? And isn't bondage mostly Delta?

    I will admit, I can't think of a single instance of which I'm personally aware where a Victim type actively chased an Aggressor*. Except me, and I actually am an LIE e8. But I'm not into bondage.

    FWIW, if a woman actively chases me, as opposed to simply saying Yes (mostly) to my suggestions for closer relations, I tend to panic. That might be traceable to my being smothered for many years by my LSE mother. As the twig is bent, so grows the tree.

    Hence, I want to do the chasing. Absolutely at first. But I also want the chasing to be accepted and reciprocated.

    *I was going out with an IEI female who was the first one to hint that maybe we should consider each other in our future relationship plans, but that's pretty far from being an Aggressor.

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    The search for the perfect Dual is ultimately doomed.

    No one is perfect. Not even your Dual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olimpia View Post
    If this thread offends you, you are either Fi ego or not Se valuing.
    This thread is pretty funny.

    You sound like you have temporarily fallen into black despair, and you need someone to bring you a beer and some flowers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    What? Isn't Christian Grey into bondage? And isn't bondage mostly Delta?
    First of, Christian Grey is a female fantasy. That already skews things.

    Having said that, he's indeed LIE-Te in my estimation. He clearly values Se. His Se HA is off the charts. And he's very much a pseudo aggressor gone wild. He's as Aggressor as an LIE could ever be. Which is likely unrealistic.

    Yeah it's mostly true that a lot of bondage enthusiasts are Delta, but not exclusively so...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olimpia View Post
    First of, Christian Grey is a female fantasy. That already skews things.

    Having said that, he's indeed LIE-Te in my estimation. He clearly values Se. His Se HA is off the charts. And he's very much a pseudo aggressor gone wild. He's as Aggressor as an LIE could ever be. Which is likely unrealistic.

    Yeah it's mostly true that a lot of bondage enthusiasts are Delta, but not exclusively so...
    Maybe I should watch that movie sometime, but something about it doesn't appeal. IDK what.

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    The mysterious 3-subtype doesn't exist in real life.

    Christian Grey is a good example of an LIE-3Te. He's not real, ladies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olimpia View Post
    The mysterious 3-subtype doesn't exist in real life.

    Christian Grey is a good example of an LIE-3Te. He's not real, ladies.
    Wait, I know a guy who tested LIE-3Te. He's Iranian and single, very male but not attached, and he seems kind of gentle and ironic. He said he prefers heavier women because thin ones are, in his opinion, neurotic.

    He does seem to have a hard time making long-term life decisions, though, which I attribute to very low Ni.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    Wait, I know a guy who tested LIE-3Te. He's Iranian and single, very male but not attached, and he seems kind of gentle and ironic. He said he prefers heavier women because thin ones are, in his opinion, neurotic.
    100% chance he's mistyped.
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    @Number 9 large:

    dat feel when in socionics betas are alphas and alphas are betas
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    If you are Sx/So, there's a 100% chance you'll self type as Beta at some point, no matter your real type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olimpia View Post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    Haha don't act Fe Polr now, I know you love it
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    Yeah, Olimpia started mobilization.
    Or in german language: macht mobil...

    Take care of yourself, Fembot. Your tongue has to be rather dry because of the amount of time it stays outside of your mouth.
    P.S.: Don't take this seriously either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olimpia View Post
    Haha don't act Fe Polr now, I know you love it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post


    Haha you're so cute when you get mad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olimpia View Post
    Descriptions of information elements > general descriptions of types.
    Agree with this. It's definitely the approach I'd recommend. The descriptions are only meant imo to flesh out ways that the elements can show up, to use as examples. People can get imo too caught up in behavioral aspects and neglect to look at the actual thought processes. Focusing primarily on the IEs can help bring cognition itself back into focus.

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