This is most likely associated with Fe, not any Intuitive functionOriginally Posted by Olimpia
This is most likely associated with Fe, not any Intuitive function
Just because you get what you self type as as your test result, doesn't mean it's true.
Most tests only give clues about how you (ideally) see yourself or what IEs you may value or what functional strengths you may have. But it's rare that a test gives you signs of all three. It's usually one of the three.
Agree with this. It's definitely the approach I'd recommend. The descriptions are only meant imo to flesh out ways that the elements can show up, to use as examples. People can get imo too caught up in behavioral aspects and neglect to look at the actual thought processes. Focusing primarily on the IEs can help bring cognition itself back into focus.
Socionics is about how to do not spend your love on those who do not deserve it.
so judgmental omg
I have judgmental type.
We stay with a honor on the peak of peoples reason. Protecting weak humans minds from the chaos of the reality.
You are IEI when you think that types are not important as you may dream yourself as a dual or a unicorn.
Do not underestimate types to use weak functions
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That's rather Delta NF. Unvalued Ti (dislike for type boxes) and Ne ego (coming up with random unicorn stuff).
Ne is about objective, including personal traits. It's Ni about something "own" and fantasy dreamworlds without limts ( including with unicorns ). Base Ni = the most strange, speculative and mystic perception of the world.
With also weak and nonvalued Te - facts of the reality matter not much (hence easier to ignore the degree a type version contradicts to the experience), while valued Ti predisposes to categorizations but speculative.
Such IEI may to have the most inclination to assign themselves random types. The example is niffer who dreams herself as own dual.
With nonvalued Ti people are inclined to do not assign random "boxes", but just lesser to use the typology. But if they use, - they care more about Te facts.
What you described would fit EII-Ne much better. They also have strong Ni but don't value Ti boxing. IEI has and values -Ti, black and white logic. They like boxes. Ni lead is speculative, but there is still the valuing of Se and Ti in the background, which EII doesn't have. Also, the IEI-Ni has boosted Ti so they will be more inclined to putting things into boxes. EII can arguably be way more speculative if they engage in their Intuition. Their speculation is not bound by Ti and Se valuing. Though they do like factual information, that is the bound they may have, but EII has 1D Te, so there won't be much in the way there. Niffer is arguably not even Ti valuing btw.
Assigning themselves random types is something I see mostly Delta NFs doing to themselves, especially those whose Fi is boosted.
Jungian typology is quite Ti, and the kinds of people who have the most issue with it and complain about not wanting to be "put into a box" are usually Ti PoLR followed by weakened Ti Role. (Aka mainly xEE-Fi and sometimes ExI-Fi). Imagining themselves to be unicorns or furries for that matter is almost always a Delta NF + Type 4 thing. Not all 4s are IEI.
The ones in opposite quadra may to be people too.
Socionics is not a game. It should not be fun. Be prepared for a pain and a humilation.
If something does not fit to your opinion about someone's type then just ignore that. No one cares about your opinion, anyway.
Socionics was made in USSR
so to understand it good you need 2 important components
vodka and balalaika
If you are a noob (in case you don't identify types regularly and better IRL for years - don't flatter to yourself, you are such) then you have no enough experience and sometimes even basic theory knowledge to be reasonably sure in your opinion about your type, or someone's else type. So when you get a disagreement with this opinion - you are starting to get significant doubts. Taking that real typing matches are <20% - it's rather common when a noob mistakes in a type - so to see disagreements about types is common too. This problem makes many noobs significantly upset. Especially with F types, as to be sure in T region about types is harder for them.
The popular way to supress the reasonable criticism is emotions! Just blame, insult, bark at your opponent. Emotions is the good way to supress the thinking and hence doubts too. You'll feel better with keeping your opinion! It's also useful to start personal relations with other noobs on a forum who agree with your opinion - so you'll be geting emotional support for that opinion and mb even a support in collective barking against those who disagree with you.
It's especially useful to establish personal relations with a mod, who generally are same noobs and understand your problems, - to ask him to ban or assign censorship restrictions to those who disagee with you - to do this against the rules. Suprisingly, they often do so just to give you a pleasure and such to support further pleasant flooding with you. As it's hard for noobs to discuss, to understand and to use the typology good - but to flood they may good and mainly use forums for this. Ideally, would be to ask change the rules (unofficial forum's requirements, at least) to forbid disageements with you - to forbid discuss types on a typology forum. It's more suprisingly there exist such cases - typology forums where to say opinions about types is partly forbidden. As noobs are the majority on all typology forums, so it's doubtful there is a popular forum without illegal or by rules/requirements a typology censorship.
Aggression leads to little understanding of a subject - much better to argue calmly with your opponent (especially arguing about the implications of the applied system, if such a thing is the subject of discussion). It makes little sense to visit a typology forum while not wishing to consider different perspectives on the pertinent school of typology and perspectives on your own place within that system.
If to take enough of drugs or alcohol then any heretical theory about types will start to work!
No, not all ESIs are stuck up traditional house wives type 6 style. You can safely ignore those descriptions. Unless you're looking for a Russian ESI 6 wife. Then by all means, indulge in them.
When a guy is aggressively pursuing you, it's safe to say he's not a Victim type. Unless he's LIE 8. Like Christian Grey. Yay.
What? Isn't Christian Grey into bondage? And isn't bondage mostly Delta?
I will admit, I can't think of a single instance of which I'm personally aware where a Victim type actively chased an Aggressor*. Except me, and I actually am an LIE e8. But I'm not into bondage.
FWIW, if a woman actively chases me, as opposed to simply saying Yes (mostly) to my suggestions for closer relations, I tend to panic. That might be traceable to my being smothered for many years by my LSE mother. As the twig is bent, so grows the tree.
Hence, I want to do the chasing. Absolutely at first. But I also want the chasing to be accepted and reciprocated.
*I was going out with an IEI female who was the first one to hint that maybe we should consider each other in our future relationship plans, but that's pretty far from being an Aggressor.
First of, Christian Grey is a female fantasy. That already skews things.
Having said that, he's indeed LIE-Te in my estimation. He clearly values Se. His Se HA is off the charts. And he's very much a pseudo aggressor gone wild. He's as Aggressor as an LIE could ever be. Which is likely unrealistic.
Yeah it's mostly true that a lot of bondage enthusiasts are Delta, but not exclusively so...
Maybe I should watch that movie sometime, but something about it doesn't appeal. IDK what.
The mysterious 3-subtype doesn't exist in real life.
Christian Grey is a good example of an LIE-3Te. He's not real, ladies.
Wait, I know a guy who tested LIE-3Te. He's Iranian and single, very male but not attached, and he seems kind of gentle and ironic. He said he prefers heavier women because thin ones are, in his opinion, neurotic.
He does seem to have a hard time making long-term life decisions, though, which I attribute to very low Ni.
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If you see the most attractive, bright and enigmatic woman - it's... your conflictor.
no. all stuff was taken by Beta, already
> FWIW, if a woman actively chases me, as opposed to simply saying Yes (mostly) to my suggestions for closer relations, I tend to panic
Se types treat like "victims" anyone. it's better to relax and get pleasure
> Hence, I want to do the chasing. Absolutely at first. But I also want the chasing to be accepted and reciprocated.
LIE show how competent, smart and friendly they are. then be prepared for her jump
you just... you just mistyped them!
Shit. I need some improvement of my disguise.
Do you think alpha NT types can have a 4 fix in their tritype? Not core type, of course. NT + 4 core type would be really strange.
In my experience, Alpha NTs can't have a 4 fix. LIEs can't, either. ILIs can.
And yes, NT + 4 core is strange. Never met one before, and it makes little sense. It's almost as ridiculous as SEE 5.
lol, isnt christrian a weird SLI with a dark past and he obsesses over. i didnt really see how he was extroverted i think they are SLI-IEE pair maybe
Type 9s easily can come across as having weak Se and/or stronger Fe without necessarily being so.
On a similar token, types with weakened Se often seem core 9 without necessarily being so.
"The love of your life" is not automatically your Dual.
On the same token, people who you find the most attractive are not automatically your Dual. (See Imago.)
Don't base your self typing on who you find attractive. It will most likely result in a mistyping.
Again. Type your Ego functions.
All females on this forum are ESI, unless there's evidence for the contrary.
Note: Evidence doesn't exist for Te PoLR.
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