words are only one form of information, "this is not a pipe"--what do you think is going on there?
there is a picture of events that people can share that, at present, words capable of capturing have not yet been developed--that is what they are "talking about".. they are in the process of trying to develop the words themselves in order to bring the picture to an even broader group.. in essence communicate an experience to the collective, otherwise the collective tends to simply oppress those people on the assumption there's nothing there because there are not words for it yet. everything that has rational formulation was once just a wordless idea in someone's head