alpha irrational, I'd guess ENTp
alpha irrational, I'd guess ENTp
Si/Ne. She looks like a more reserved SEI.
I thought ILE..
I agree with ILE
lmao. are you DJA quoting from his own reservoir?Originally Posted by Whoobie77
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Yes, I am a DJArendee sock puppet account. That is why I type myself as NT and "apparently" hate Beta quadra. It all makes perfect sense! You now know my true form.
Everyone, mark your rosters accordingly.
Oh don't be pissed off, you're the one who keeps quoting. Choose your masters wisely. That's not ILI humor btw.
I also think ILE.
you dredged up a 6 month old post, stuff that I've disowned because I was new to socionics at the time. I didn't write that yesterday.Oh don't be pissed off, you're the one who keeps quoting. Choose your masters wisely
also:
http://www.sociotype.com/socionics/functions/Id/
I'm using stereotypical Alpha NT humor because you've already made your mind up. You're going to see what you want to.
I have thought about ILE. It doesn't work. There's no way my greedy, Camarro-driving con-man of a best friend (who I consider my dual) is SEI. There's no way my ESE mother, who has said of me that I "walk around with a chip on my shoulder" even though I'm just acting normal is my activator. If I'm ILE, then socionics is just broken (which it probably is, anyway. It's a pretty ridiculous house-of-cards.). As you can see though, I'm not typing myself as ILI right now. I'm rethinking it, again.
You don't know jack about me or my life, so piss off. Is that Gamma enough for you?
I dunno what the fuck you're using here, if it's systemic logic or something else, but heck. I get along very well with my LIE father, so I must be ESI or EII by that logic. The worst conflicts in my life I've had with ESEs and SEIs, so I must be LIE. I don't mingle well with Betas (except with some LSIs and 2 EIEs I've happened to know irl), so I must be a Delta or Alpha.
>> you've already made your mind up. You're going to see what you want to.
yeah
>>You don't know jack about me or my life, so piss off.
That's at least more manly and mature, it may convince me to respect it.
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I think you're Gamma NT because an alpha NT wouldn't even humor this fucktard.
The mind is restless and difficult to restrain, but it is subdued by practice
-Krishna
you've already tried to save face with such tactics before for your being thrown away from the Gamma quadra.
Are you kidding me? Bitch I left. I'm trying to get into Delta right now... How am I doing?
The mind is restless and difficult to restrain, but it is subdued by practice
-Krishna
u'r almost there. u have to position urself like a fetus and push with all ur Fi
it's not systemic logic because I'm not a Ti user! ugh
I've seen you type yourself as ILI since I've been on this forum, so it appears that yes, you're in the ballpark.
anyways, you're blocked now, goodnight and godspeed.
you don't seem to know that I typed LSI for a good while ...which confirms that you ain't a Ni user
didnt see this before. Function preference has jack shit to do with the information I do or don't have. The core of this idiotic theory is that people have traits independent of situation.
how in the world does this statement have anything to do with functions?
he didn't keep track of typings over a specific timespan -- as I noticed fdg does, for eg. But ofc dude is master of sophistry as a ILE and he could have just pretended he doesn't remember that he was typing me ESI or EII himself when I started questioning my LSI first type.
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Aw, what do you know, you write reams of theory and say you're Ti-PolR.
seriously, though, actually this seems like astatement to me. I'm fairly confident Plato was a Beta NF and he's kind of infamous for immutable forms behind the scenes.
regardless, I don't identify as ILI right now and I'm considering abandoning socionics completely. I like the people in my life and I don't need intertype to explain why.Trying to map out and control the evolution of human relations is both stupid and autistic. Just let it happen. I might still hang out here, though, 'cause you guys r so KEWL
A lot here to clear up, and the roots run deep.Aw, what do you know, you write reams of theory and say you're Ti-PolR.
First, the "say" part. In text, and in words, that term hasn't been used from me, and yes, the semantics are of utmost importance. "PoLR" refers to two main things; first, a space in functionality, an isn't that gets handled as an is; second, a sort of painfulness. Using "4th function" or "vulnerable function" will make sure that the actual function/ality is referred to, and that's how I roll. When it's too easy to conflate an isn't with an is, rest assured that multiple people will be doing this in multiple ways, and that's how messes are made.
A mention of "traits independent of situation" being the core of the theory would involve mainly Ne, Ti, and Se in descending order; all of the aforementioned are static.seriously, though, actually this seems like a
4th functionality, though oftentimes existing only in trace amounts, will still be there, and based on vertical subtyping, base-sub will have enhanced 4th/vulnerable functionality, and creative-sub will have enhanced 3rd/role functionality. This all fits well with the notion that the presence of one function will suppress the functionality of its same-verted rational/irrational counterpart.
I will require one recent photograph from the front, one recent photograph from the side; neck clearly visible in both.
and yess, same here
Newer developments in theory are more interesting to me, and other than as a confluence of multiple dichotomies of varying strengths, as well as a precursor to the official WSS notational system, I've moved beyond Model A. I've yet to completely digest all of the new Filatova and Moshenko material, but notions of minus-functionality as local, and plus-functionality as holistic, is intriguing; if the distinction isn't perfect, it's compact, and I've got lots to work with, especially when combining this with the enneagram. As for relating to people; for me, this is mainly another way for me to see the multiple worlds seen by people looking at the same planet as I am, and it's all growing.
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trad metalz | (more coming)
Even though Se/Ne are static, I don't think this has anything to do with what is independent of the situation. Being extroverted irrational functions, they are the situation. A extroverted irrational static is something like "There is a wall here" (Se) or "There could be an elephant here" (Ne). It's what going on/could be going on in the real world- the situation. On the other hand, the introverted judging statics, which make statements like "A^2 + B^2= C^2 no matter what planet we're on" (Ti) or "killing is always a moral evil" (Fi) are the parts which are not contingent upon the situation. Not saying Ne is not involved, but that it seems to be a statement which predicated more on Ti.
Yeah, all things made by humans have some kind of truth value. The fact that psychoanalytics has proved to be a hearty meme barnacle on the complex despite some attempts to eradicate it shows it must have some kernel of truth value in it. That's why I reluctant to totally dismiss religious thought despite my personal doubt, and why I said I was "thinking about" abandoning socionics, not giving up the ghost completely.
Check out her Viceland series documentary "Gaycation", where she travels to different countries to find out what its like for the LGBT people living there. There is Ne her, yet the show has convinced me she might be an ethical and not ILE. And going on reports that she is actually very shy and introverted, that would leave EII. Wonder if anyone else would have anything to add. The Brazil episode is particularly relevant for typing.
SLI
I call myself batyote and I fight crime at night.
ESI-Fi
She VIs like Aubrey Plaza and Meg Myers. I'll make it so their pictures are right next to each other.
https://www.pinterest.com/socionics/esi-fi/
I currently have no opinion on her type, but the pubic hair dream is clearly about her discomfort/shame about her sexuality.
This opinion is pretty incorrect, try again. She doesn't seem to harbour any inner shame regarding her sexuality, she's even made a so far 9 part, 60 min/episode mini series about gay people, featuring her as the main interviewer. She's spoken face to face with a police officer in Brazil who has murdered dozens of gay people, politicians in Japan and defended her point of view time and again. People who feel shame do not put themselves in vulnerable, potentially threatening situations unless they have a strong inner compass. Perhaps your 1D Ni is showing?
Your typing method seems to be based so much on the externals. I'm just commenting, not criticizing btw. Is this a Se thing? must be.
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What's the timeline for all of that stuff vs the interview though? This is a very old topic. Maybe she felt she should be doing more and now is?
Ahh I see, well then yes things change, circumstances are dynamic and evolving. The Vice documentaries look pretty recent. I still wouldn't be so quick to say the docs are an attempt at alleviating self shame. Shame is one of the first illusions that get burned through when coming coming out from my understanding and talking with other people about it. Decades long internalized shame gone within a matter of months when I started telling people at 22. Shame does not last long in the open especially since coming out, amoung other attributes, is in opposition to a shameful attitude. Shame says "I am wrong/ bad" whilst coming out says "I am normal". Ofc there are those who might still feel shameful I just doubt a woman like Ellen is one of them. I think people often mistake fear of being in new territory... For shame.
Edit: anyway That is everything I want to say on the topic, be well.
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I think she might be SEI, but I'm not sure. She seems Alpha to me.
SLI, she reminds me A LOT like Jennifer Connelly
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EII Ne
even somewhere Ne. The girl just is not a sensor type.
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Not ILE. Introvert.
why
Because I was new and thought I understood way more than I actually did. Check the date on the OP.
she's lovely, I think she has some delta hobbies, at least based on the interviews I watched of her when I was younger, but ILE fits like a glove
The human interests stories she makes and her reactions said EII to me.
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