ENFp
ENFj
INFp
INFj
INTp
INTj
ENTp
ENTj
ISTp
ISTj
ESTp
ESTj
ISFp
ISFj
ESFp
ESFj
Mahatma Ghandi
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~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
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~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
I'm terrible at VI but what about infj?
ILE
those who are easily shocked.....should be shocked more often
INFP of course.
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rick has him as INFp
INFp.... hmm
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~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
not a feeling type, that's for sure
Ghandi was almost certainly NT, IMO. ENTp is my guess at this point in time, although I'm having a really hard time finding a suitable pic.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
INTp - he's the same type as Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.
BTW, Indira Ghandi (not related) = ENFj.
"How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
-- Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet
I always had this idea of INFP as the peaceful type and now I don't anymore.Originally Posted by Baby
INTp - he's the same type as Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.
BTW, Indira Ghandi (not related) = ENFj.
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They usually are peaceful.
Ghandi would be smacked around by our society for domestic abuse at this point in time.
Waht did he do?
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a leeeetle alcohol and a leeeetle child neglect.
and a looooootta self neglect
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
Did he beat his children?
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No. I was trying to find it online. I didnt but I did find a written story about hos Ghandi's hunger strike did more harm than good due to politics. It's hard to find anything unbiased about him because of liberal fluff pieces portraying him as a saint.
Anyways, it was from a book about his neglect of his domestic duties that led to some fucked up-ness of some of his sons.
Could well be. Einstein had similar issues from what I know.
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Yeah. Well, I guess you get the point though-- saints, gods and demi-gods in media yet human and flawed in reality.Could well be. Einstein had similar issues from what I know.
Strangely enough, Ghandi isn't deified in India itself as much as he is in the West.
"How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
-- Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet
huh? why?? ENTp doesnt make any sense at all. gamma NT might be possible.
I think he's a feeling type.
INFj
INTp
sx/sp
I agree, Mea. INFj.
you can' be serious!
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~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
Why not p?
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
Possibly... but I've not known any to really take the initiative. I think they tend to look for direction more. They are hard workers, but I haven't seen many examples that strike me as revolutionary figurhead. They enjoy taking orders too much.....
But, that's also rather stereotypical, likely.
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~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
I dont think INFjs enjoy taking orders. They have rather strong principles and can be so bloody stubborn, it drives you nuts.
Possibly... but I've not known any to really take the initiative. I think they tend to look for direction more. They are hard workers, but I haven't seen many examples that strike me as revolutionary figurhead. They enjoy taking orders too much.....
But, that's also rather stereotypical, likely.
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
Why not p?
would a p be that motivated to change the world?
Why don't you tell me why he should be a p?
What is your argument for it
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I don't know if he is a p, but I don't see why ps shouldn't be motivated to change the world. I used to be pretty active in political activism and such and I know a number of ps who are (all ENFps I know irl are, for example). If anything, it's a type thing, not a p thing...
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
ah, nevermind. Don't worry about it. I'm basically agreeing with you.
I need to get back to schoolwork anyways.
Carry on.
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~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
I talked about it with an Indian guy in South Africa once -- he said that Ghandi is seen by many as "full of shit"; further, that he was responsible for the split of old India into India, Pakistan and Bangladesh. That may be unfair but apparently it's a common perception.
As for his type -- Beta or Gamma; ENFj or INFp as most likely.
, LIE, ENTj logical subtype, 8w9 sx/sp
I want someone to please please explain the "feeling" in that man. He was a cold-assed, calculating, precision oritented SOB who wasn't very good with close relationships. I heard that Ghandi was basically a prick (legends aside). He could have been INTP.
You've got to pay attention to who is talking about Ghandi... and why.
There are always people who will agree or disagree with a legendary figure
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~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
As UDP said, it depends who you ask, but that is a surprisingly common scenario. India today is a nation of intense disparity - mind-bogglingly industrialized on one hand, and miserably impoverished in others. Furthermore, Pakistan and especially Bangladesh have been far less fortunate in their efforts to modernize. There's a great number of people on the Indian subcontinent who are disillusioned and bitter with the cards they ahve been dealt. It's very easy to lay the blame at the feet of those who came before, and Ghandi makes the perfect scapegoat for this. I agree it's unfair - he had no way of truly gauging the impact of his actions, and that in trying to unify India he would tear it further apart.I talked about it with an Indian guy in South Africa once -- he said that Ghandi is seen by many as "full of shit"; further, that he was responsible for the split of old India into India, Pakistan and Bangladesh. That may be unfair but apparently it's a common perception.
As for his type -- Beta or Gamma; ENFj or INFp as most likely.
But then again, India has never been unified in reality. To say you are Indian is the equivalent of saying you are European or Asian. The cultures bear some superficial similarities and the people all look kind of all the same, but the languages, religion, traditions, music, art are incredibly varied.
I think he had rather too strong
"How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
-- Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet
Gandhi was none of those things; you have no clue what you're talking about.
And I'm pretty sure he was INFj-- DEFINITELY an NF-- idealistic, passionate about human nature, no doubt about that. I is a consensus.
If only it was that simple...Rocky, you should go fuck a goat. Gandhi was none of those things; you have no clue what you're talking about.
And I'm pretty sure he was INFj-- DEFINITELY an NF-- idealistic, passionate about human nature, no doubt about that. I is a consensus and he was very quick on his feet and made excellent judgments-- J.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
ahahahahhahahahaaRocky, you should go fuck a goat. Gandhi was none of those things; you have no clue what you're talking about.
And I'm pretty sure he was INFj-- DEFINITELY an NF-- idealistic, passionate about human nature, no doubt about that. I is a consensus and he was very quick on his feet and made excellent judgments-- J.
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
Rather than just laugh at you, I'll be more helpful, but be aware that I am also laughing at you.
1) you clearly have no clue about Socionics typing, and that stuff about "quick on his feet bla bla judgements bla bla - J" is sheer nonsense, even for MBTI;
2) you have a idealized and naive view of Gandhi as a man - are you basing that judgement on the movie?
You know buddy, if you actually had a point, your pathetic attempts at condescending might work on some people but I may as well tell you, it's wasted on me.Rather than just laugh at you, I'll be more helpful, but be aware that I am also laughing at you.
1) you clearly have no clue about Socionics typing, and that stuff about "quick on his feet bla bla judgements bla bla - J" is sheer nonsense, even for MBTI;
2) you have a idealized and naive view of Gandhi as a man - are you basing that judgement on the movie?
It's very well-agreed upon that Gandhi was INFj and you didn't contradict anything I said with an actual argument, rather you decided to act like a small smug child. I didn't say anything about Gandhi that was incorrect and I don't feel the need to justify my statements and cite sources for them to someone like you, especially when they are universally known to be true. It might help you to learn some common sense about the man before you start acting like you knew him personally. Next time, maybe try to say something rather than simply be a moron if you expect to be taken seriously.
First, you asked for it by the way you acted - "go fuck a goat" etc, and by your arrogant manner. That is why I acted in a condescending manner. You had no right to expect anything else.
First, "it's wel-agreed upon" it's just to appeal to authority, "it's true because others say so".
The "actual argument" I made was on this:
This shows you have no clue about Socionics or even MBTI, and that is why FDG and Rocky laughed at you. If you had behaved better I might have carefully explained why you were wrong, but since you had not, I decided to make fun of you.And I'm pretty sure he was INFj-- DEFINITELY an NF-- idealistic, passionate about human nature, no doubt about that. I is a consensus and he was very quick on his feet and made excellent judgments-- J.
Again, can you say anything besides things like "everyone knows it"?
But here goes a piece of real argument -- even for MBTI, J is not about "making excellent judgements", and I very much doubt that you will find any serious MBTI source that says that it is.
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