FANXY CHILD seeks a type

[at sirac son of sirac]

It's in character so not a criticism from as much as a clear statement of what I believe to be valid vs invalid "analysis". Of course that now that you're detailing your decision process it becomes even more glaring how we judge using complete different scales (or better yet, measuring sticks): I'd never type someone based on how much they write/talk or personal aesthetics which are 100% subjective anyway. Communication styles are not accurate in the ways they are systematized imo based on Olimpia's thread, so the only thing we have in common is using personal experience. Of course in that we depend on actually typing people right to build a good data based, but it's the best method.

No typing bothers me, what can tick me off is the either really flawed or non existent reasoning behind them.

And yes, I change types like I change clothes and one never resembles the other, that should tell you enough

Socionics is by nature subjective, there's good and bad ways to type for sure, no one's got it nailed 100% for what I know.

But, regardless of your opinion, aesthetics is a valid (but not foolproof - nothing is) method of typing. Check out this persons post http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...=1#post1238510 - aesthetics was something mentioned in regards to the persons typing of being Si. That you don't consider it, doesn't do anything to make me change my mind about you Si being in your super-ego block, but makes me think there's more sureness to it being a weak function.

But hey, I came in to a typing thread and made a suggestion for your type, you don't like my methods, OK. I don't know whether to apologize for that

Keep in mind though that more than me think Cuivienen is Beta NF - mainly EIE, so if my methods are so crap, which doesn't bother me haha, but, so must others be too.

I love how we communicate x

[PrettySavage]

Socionics is by nature subjective, there's good and bad ways to type for sure, no one's got it nailed 100% for what I know.

But, regardless of your opinion, aesthetics is a valid (but not foolproof - nothing is) method of typing. Check out this persons post http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...=1#post1238510 - aesthetics was something mentioned in regards to the persons typing of being Si. That you don't consider it, doesn't do anything to make me change my mind about you Si being in your super-ego block, but makes me think there's more sureness to it being a weak function.

But hey, I came in to a typing thread and made a suggestion for your type, you don't like my methods, OK. I don't know whether to apologize for that

Keep in mind though that more than me think Cuivienen is Beta NF - mainly EIE, so if my methods are so crap, which doesn't bother me haha, but, so must others be too.

I love how we communicate x

Lol, you lack self awareness here: I'm not the one trying to change your mind, you're the one trying to change mine!

You're the one pointing me to a post that is supposed to prove the validity of a typing method (and hilariously you seriously think that in itself, that proves anything, clearly an I vs E thing), I only ever expressed my opinion.

I never asked for an apology or suggested you've offended me, you're the one constantly being sensitive and walking on eggshells

Again you're contradicting yourself and ruining your own argument: if my opinion about your methods doesn't matter, then why do you keep on bringing other people's opinions that corroborate with yours as a point? Makes no sense at all, specially when accurate objective evidence is what takes me to consider a point, not opinions.

You care a LOT about what others think of you, you just can't see it because of your :Fe PoLR.

Most delegates agreed Donald Trump was the best option for president, were they right?

[at sirac son of sirac]

Lol, you lack self awareness here: I'm not the one trying to change your mind, you're the one trying to change mine!

I don't care what you think, and I don't mean that badly, as in, type yourself as you wish. I just seen you were looking for input for your type and I thought I'd try to help.

Honestly, it's not a battle or concern for me.

You're the one pointing me to a post that is supposed to prove the validity of a typing method (and hilariously you seriously think that in itself, that proves anything, clearly an I vs E thing), I only ever expressed my opinion.

I never asked for an apology or suggested you've offended me, you're the one constantly being sensitive and walking on eggshells

Again you're contradicting yourself and ruining your own argument: if my opinion about your methods doesn't matter, then why do you keep on bringing other people's opinions that corroborate with yours as a point? Makes no sense at all, specially when accurate objective evidence is what takes me to consider a point, not opinions.

You care a LOT about what others think of you, you just can't see it because of your :Fe PoLR.

Most delegates agreed Donald Trump was the best option for president, were they right?

I dunno, i'm just trying to be logical, peaceful, it's difficult to tell over the internet, guess i'm no fun lol x

ttyl, going for some food

[PrettySavage]

I don't care what you think, and I don't mean that badly, as in, type yourself as you wish. I just seen you were looking for input for your type and I thought I'd try to help.

Honestly, it's not a battle or concern for me.

Again, you didn't understand anything: I meant you were trying to change my mind about what methods to use when typing people, not my type itself. Lol, I say 2 you hear 3, it's not even funny at this point.

I dunno, i'm just trying to be logical, peaceful, it's difficult to tell over the internet, guess i'm no fun lol x

ttyl, going for some food

Again with the whole 'poor boring old me' thing, stop fishing And 'logical' ok, the more you talk the more I see you're in the right table, but sitting in the wrong spot. "Ignoring", "Role", "Suggestive", I get it now

[PrettySavage]

Ok, quickly, my opinions:

- the fact that you get so many different results on tests shows inconsistency and contradiction in your self-image in itself
- you seem like 351 or maaaaybe 358 tritype, strong 3 and 5. Your core type is in competency triad.
- you seem extremely proud, blocked behind the wall and quickly offended when someone doesn't see you the way you see yourself, scared of being humiliated and disrespected.

Contradictions:
- you're very rigid and specific, but you also want all this freedom?

-I have to say that I think I already win at life for being called "cheerleader", "bubbly" and "light". My whole school life that was exactly what I wanted to be like (I had mad envy whenever I watched American teen movies) but no, only compliments I got were about my brain and politeness I was the smart and mature one, while all I wanted was to be pretty and exuberant like other girls. As the "quiet nerd" and then the "broody and stuck up know-it-all", it seems I've come a long way in somewhat regaining the energy I originally had as a kid.
And then:
maybe because forall my extroversionI'm still considered a mystery myself.

Which one is it, are you quiet or very extroverted? Maybe ambiverted? Have you changed a lot since teens?

- you're judgmental but you're also very open minded
- you wanna be specialised, but also mainstream (if I remember correctly)?

-I think you're rational and I don't get ExFx typings at all:

A guy who at that point was still not close to me (but that seemed very interested) one day just said as we were preparing to leave class "She has no facial expression". Now I have no idea why that hit me like a slap in the face, I don't even know if I said anything. I was just so embarassed, normally I'd snap something right back, but I was schoked and I felt like he had just humiliated me in the worst way. - humiliated in the worst way because you're offended if someone points out you're more off a cold-blooded sort, stand-offish and bad with showing emotions?

-How you talk about yourself (you take yourself very seriously) and use of your alpha korean girls gifs is an odd combination

My impression of you is xNTJ or maybe ILI, but that's just that - an impression. I've a strong feeling you're an NT.

@darya pointed out all of my contradictions and poor self awareness and I lashed out at her, I'm really sorry

Wait, so Betas are a homosexual warrior cult now? Sparta is overrated.

@Playing With Fire is definitely a Fe-seeking type, there's no question of that. She looks for a sweet, kind, warm, non-challenging partner and has a strong, natural use of Ti. I would have been tempted to suggest that she leads with Ti, actually, but she does also appear to be extroverted so that wouldn't fit with the theory. However I would definitely go for xLE Rational subtype. This matches test results which she's linked in the past (ILE-3Ti if I recall correctly?). You can see her formality and tendency to analyze/dissect an issue in depth on display here. Both of these are typical of a confident Ti user.

For this reason among many others, I cannot see EIE as a type for her, not at all. A lot of the conflict PWF has mentioned probably arose as a result of her weak 2D Fe use, so the only Beta type I'd consider for her is SLE. However, that would be inconsistent with her test results and what she's already said to me, which is that she doesn't relate to Static Sensing types at all and tends to be the "ideas generator" in a group. SLE acts first and figures shit out as a result of having done so. They don't speculate or brainstorm a lot, as this seems childish and silly, and will quickly come to hate anyone who does.

I don't think it's clear that PWF is a Se-lead as opposed to a Ne-lead. Bear in mind that she's an SX 8 and they will try hard to come across as assertive, regardless of their Sociotype.

@Cuivienen hit a perfect strike.. So congrats, dope typing

Here is the last (realy) nail on the coffin:



I'm posting all my answers too, might be usuful for peole who refer to this thread for self typing:

And this is the help I got from a blogger and Lord, it was actually this March And yet I couldn't believe it and settled :



This was great, cognitive functions for children lol:







The journey is over, folks, thanks for joining


I've learnt my lessons:





But like:



Lol, ok I'm gone, see ya!