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    "Duality" is little more than an arranged marriage, a fantasy. Duals meeting each other without knowledge that they are "Duals" often find each other either unremarkable or repulsive. I think that "Semi-Dual" and "Benefit" are better relations. Most importantly, stay away from "Supervision" and "Conflict" unless you want to develop mental problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StereoTYPE View Post
    "Duality" is little more than an arranged marriage, a fantasy. Duals meeting each other without knowledge that they are "Duals" often find each other either unremarkable or repulsive. I think that "Semi-Dual" and "Benefit" are better relations. Most importantly, stay away from "Supervision" and "Conflict" unless you want to develop mental problems.
    This ain't facts bruh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Pixel View Post
    This ain't facts bruh.
    True. It's all theoretical. However, as Jung described originally, your Dual will actually make you weaker and stifle self-development due to avoidance of developing the Inferior function. Duality being a cure-all romance is Ausra's theory. Furthermore, Gulenko's concept of Duality is more accurate romantically as it equates to a Conflict relation that should harmonize over time if it doesn't implode within the first month or so. Duality's most optimal use, in my opinion, is in a dynamic and professional workplace environment, basically a business setting. I suppose it's also important to consider that certain "Dualities" have a higher success rate than others.

    The fact that you believe in Ausra's idea of Duality makes me smile. Regardless, I agree with Jung's idea over Ausra's first and foremost after my personal experience with Duality (both of us typed by VG). If anything I'd say that Duality evolves over time in all three ways. Birth, life, death. What that means is that it starts out like Jung's Concept, Lives like Gulenko's Concept, and Dies as Ausra's Concept (if the end result, the "Dualization" happens). But, that's just my theory right now. One idea I have is that types repulse types by default (unless Identical) and no relation is good or bad, it depends on mutual interests and openness, which is a bit more realistic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StereoTYPE View Post
    True. It's all theoretical. However, as Jung described originally, your Dual will actually make you weaker and stifle self-development due to avoidance of developing the Inferior function. Duality being a cure-all romance is Ausra's theory. Furthermore, Gulenko's concept of Duality is more accurate romantically as it equates to a Conflict relation that should harmonize over time if it doesn't implode within the first month or so. Duality's most optimal use, in my opinion, is in a dynamic and professional workplace environment, basically a business setting. I suppose it's also important to consider that certain "Dualities" have a higher success rate than others.

    The fact that you believe in Ausra's idea of Duality makes me smile. Regardless, I agree with Jung's idea over Ausra's first and foremost after my personal experience with Duality (both of us typed by VG). If anything I'd say that Duality evolves over time in all three ways. Birth, life, death. What that means is that it starts out like Jung's Concept, Lives like Gulenko's Concept, and Dies as Ausra's Concept (if the end result, the "Dualization" happens). But, that's just my theory right now. One idea I have is that types repulse types by default (unless Identical) and no relation is good or bad, it depends on mutual interests and openness, which is a bit more realistic.
    Duals provide a good example of how to use your inferior in a balanced way, so when you are on your own you can almost just mimic what you learned from them. Stifle perhaps, but make you weaker? how? You're already 1D.

    Well damn, all the duals I've met were not conflict relations that had to get past an implosion phase, they were more like meeting stranger relatives. Conflict relations can seem interesting at first and then quickly you see the friction between you and the person, while duals seem like someone who you would not normally talk to but then are surprised you guys get along. I've known alot and for long periods of time and an implosion phase has never happened, hell I live with a dual now and there's never been an implosion or initial conflict that we had to get past, this is not to say I've never had conflict with a dual, but it's far less common as some other ITRs I know. I'm good friends with a conflictor right now, and I can see the areas we value in terms of IE that are different and the potential for friction if we really dived deep into our opinions, it's peaceful but we have disagreements on certain things and find it hard to see the other person's point of view without taking some time to think about it, our friendship mostly works because of shared values, but I do feel I repress myself a little bit to keep the peace, which is something in duality I havn't experienced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Pixel View Post
    Duals provide a good example of how to use your inferior in a balanced way, so when you are on your own you can almost just mimic what you learned from them. Stifle perhaps, but make you weaker? how? You're already 1D.
    It is actually the Semi-Dual that does this, according to my own research, and Model G. A "function" is a form of energy to me, you can develop the ability to tap into this "energy" on your own by taking the needed steps that pertain to its activity, however this training can regress if someone takes care of it for you. So yes, weaker too.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Pixel View Post
    Well damn, all the duals I've met were not conflict relations that had to get past an implosion phase, they were more like meeting stranger relatives.
    Unfortunately it is more than likely that you have not recognized the relation correctly. For example, with Result types, Dualities break up even quicker than for Process types.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StereoTYPE View Post
    It is actually the Semi-Dual that does this, according to my own research, and Model G. A "function" is a form of energy to me, you can develop the ability to tap into this "energy" on your own by taking the needed steps that pertain to its activity, however this training can regress if someone takes care of it for you. So yes, weaker too.
    Unfortunately it is more than likely that you have not recognized the relation correctly. For example, with Result types, Dualities break up even quicker than for Process types.
    I don't know how Semi Dual would teach you better than a dual. I've gotten practical advice from Semi-dual and it's always missing the Si detail component, I'm told what to do but no step by step how to do, and subconsciously I seek those step by step details or I can't get moving.

    I think you can become more comfortable and familiar with using a certain IE, but I don't think that comfort goes away just because you're around a dual. I see it more like dipping your toe in water, on your own you might dip your toe in your lower IEs but never fully submerge yourself in them until you have no choice, which is an imbalanced use, but your dual shows you how to swim, other types can teach you about your 1D functions but I think it's communicated more psychologically smoother from a dual, less obstacles for the information to get into the mind.

    I could say similar and say I don't think you've met a real dual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Pixel View Post
    I don't know how Semi Dual would teach you better than a dual.
    People use their Inferior function in a way more similar to their Semi-Dual rather than their Dual, it has to do with shifts in the psyche.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Pixel View Post
    I don't think that comfort goes away just because you're around a dual.
    I think it is not about comfort, it is about capability and the need to use. If you have a specialist that can do something for you, naturally you will let them do it - that is how the relation works. The intuitive comes up with an idea, the sensor executes it in the real world.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Pixel View Post
    I could say similar and say I don't think you've met a real dual.
    Luckily I've dealt with more than one, my sister is also my Dual in this system. So, you could say similar, out of spite, but you'd be wrong - again. I think that you should at least get a grasp on your own type, and then gain the ability to correctly diagnose relations before embarrassing yourself any further in front of me.

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