I will VI Anybody!

[Olimpia]

Anglas V.Is as a Logical type that values Fe.

[Anglas]

So should i spank you to get my daily dose of Fe

[Adam Strange]

Are you telling me that i look like a commie

You look like my LIE-Ni friend Vladimir. He's here in the States, Anglas. He voted with his feet. He also has a pretty bad opinion of Putin.

I also work with Viktor, Svetlana, Mikhail, and Andrei, all first-generation immigrants. Russia is emptying out of all its smart people. They are coming to the States, which is still marginally better than Russia in terms of freedom.

[Olimpia]

Vladimir.

This should be Anglas' next username.

[empineer]

can you plllleeeassseee do marion cotillard?

EII? I relate to her alot

[empineer]

do you have any older pics that would illustrate some development over time

i like to get a feel for the flow of a person's life because it seems like people can radically change their image and just a snapshot of one or the other may not be representative of the whole

Si valuing?

[empineer]

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You look scary

[Bertrand]

yeah thats what happens when you just roll out of bed

[empineer]

How would @Bertrand explain my "relationship" with Adam?

Doesn't seem like Conflict to me.

And I also don't know what an ILE would help me with much. Could you enlighten me?

I don't think I need more silly ideas or possibilities to think about...

Pink elephants? Red dinosaurs? Imagine the illuminati symbol on the backside of your ass!

Whoooo

f yeah.

The type of silly ideas are really different in ILE. I can imagine how useful ILE can be to IEI

[empineer]

maybe adam strange's dick can sort it out

do you want to fuck me adam?

The way you speak and insult and show anger has so much Se you definitely cannot be ILE. But SLE or LSI can be imo

[maniac]

The way you speak and insult and show anger has so much Se you definitely cannot be ILE. But SLE or LSI can be imo

So Medusa is suggesting Fi dominant and you Fi PolR. Gotta love socionics.

[empineer]

yeah thats what happens when you just roll out of bed

Maybe you are SEE

The method of insulting does not fit Fi dominant and you don't sound beta or alpha

[Zero]

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LIE?? but if you look at VI photos of LIEs all of them have big alert eyes, the expression I think belongs to a man of aggressor gluenko erotic styles which telling by the eyes would be introverted, so either LSI or ESI, probably LSI, since ESIs have "warmer" expressions.

[empineer]

@Bertrand

it's you?!

You look Te enough.

LSE, LIE.

I would say SEE because his gaze is deep, there is Se that freaks me out, and still, attractive. So, my supervisor

[Bertrand]

if you're really serious about understanding me maybe read more of my posts and try to piece together a bigger picture

[Olimpia]

Maybe you are SEE

The method of insulting does not fit Fi dominant and you don't sound beta or alpha

How does it not fit Fi dominant?

[Olimpia]

Anyhow, Bertrand pretty much V.Is as an xSI-Se.
Introverted. And the gaze is piercing enough to count as boosted Se Creative. His facial expression reminds me of suedehead's.

Now, does it mean that's his actual type? That's up to you guys to discuss.

[The Reality Denialist]

I think for Bertrand is particularly sensitive to a point of being HA. Something to look for but necessarily the most valuable thing to receive.

[Bertrand]

alright, well, lets rally around that

seems like adam's dick was right all along

[Simo]

if you're really serious about understanding me maybe read more of my posts and try to piece together a bigger picture

Why would they try to understand you?
The point is having fun

[empineer]

if you're really serious about understanding me maybe read more of my posts and try to piece together a bigger picture

I thought this thread was VIing

[empineer]

How does it not fit Fi dominant?

Hmm because imo ESIs don't curse with several Dick and fuck words in one single post?

[Simo]

I thought this thread was VIing

you've got a point here reading his posts to type him doesn't count as VI

[wacey]

Te lingering behavior is so gross, especially in LSE who doesn't understand time, so everything is persistence and waiting. in romance they're vultures. its like "heh if I hang around long enough, pester enough people, and am persistent enough something has to give"-- its the flipside to SLE shotgunning cat calls not caring how many people he disturbs because its all a numbers game and if even 1/1000 responds thats all they care about. no values no discernment beyond the hurr my dick can work with this yes/no system of who they go after, and if they sense weakness they can exploit all the better, because it increases odds of success

best thing about ESI is they'll frustrate both these types endlessly, which is funny to watch, because you can tell males think the woman is stupid and just about to roll over but she never does and just plays them endlessly, if shes so inclined

4d Te 1d Ni Fi is like a recipe for disgusting courting rituals

this and only this..... Seriously 10 points to Gryffindor for this post!

[Bertrand]

The way you speak and insult and show anger has so much Se you definitely cannot be ILE. But SLE or LSI can be imo

Maybe you are SEE

The method of insulting does not fit Fi dominant and you don't sound beta or alpha

Si valuing? [in response to common sense suggestion of using pics over time]

but yeah respond these ideas and the retort is "this is about VI"

and Simo, lol

I didn't bring up going outside of VI until after you already went there with non VI analysis

implicit in my suggestion of reading other posts was the acknowledgement you already went outside VI, and that's precisely what this thread is for, and that if you want to engage in this other speculation maybe you should inform yourself

[wacey]

I love how you think of yourself as an Ni ego, adam as well, but trace the conceptual development of ideas and their implications through time like a goldfish, both of you

I think socion role wise, IEI are not meant to chase down ideas per se. They are more tracing the changes in peoples personalities, watching the effects of events of people, watching "softer" skills and qualities as they relate to themselves, their emotions, sentiments, feelings, dynamics, conversational style, awareness of influence, seasonal changes, changes in tempo, course of events, classic awareness of inter-personal concerns, almost mentally videographing their life as they understand it. Much more "humanistic" as compared with Ni+Te. So for her to be non-masterful with ideas wouldn't put her outta range for Ni in the least, if you take a look at how Ni manifests uniquely when paired with Fe.

[Bertrand]

I think socion role wise, IEI are not meant to chase down ideas per se. They are more tracing the changes in peoples personalities, watching the effects of events of people, watching "softer" skills and qualities as they relate to themselves, their emotions, sentiments, feelings, dynamics, conversational style, awareness of influence, seasonal changes, changes in tempo, course of events. Much more "humanistic" as compared with Ni+Te. So for her to be non-masterful with ideas wouldn't put her outta range for Ni in the least, if you take a look at how Ni manifests uniquely when paired with Fe.

that's a really good point, I hadn't considered that side of it. I guess, being ESI, I figured everyone could think at least as well as me, and there was no such possible breakdown in play (especially from someone with superior intuition of time)

[Olimpia]

I only mentioned the fact that my comment was from a long time ago, as a pointer at how people's opinions can change over time. I was subtly taking note of lung's weaker Ne there.
It is typical for ESIs to initially assume that people do not change, or at least there can be a general unawareness in terms of people's potentialities, and how they express themselves in time.

Somehow Bertrand took offense to this? And/Or he interpreted it as me having weak Intuition, which was ironic to me.

[wacey]

that's a really good point, I hadn't considered that side of it. I guess, being ESI, I figured everyone could think at least as well as me, and there was no such possible breakdown in play (especially from someone with superior intuition of time)

Well, I am not addressing her or you specifically. I meant generally speaking.

[Bertrand]

I only mentioned the fact that my comment was from a long time ago, as a pointer at how people's opinions can change over time. I was subtly taking note of lung's weaker Ne there.
It is typical for ESIs to initially assume that people do not change, or at least there can be a general unawareness in terms of people's potentialities, and how they express themselves in time.

Somehow Bertrand took offense to this? And/Or he interpreted it as me having weak Intuition, which was ironic to me.

this reads like gibberish to me

Well, I am not addressing her or you specifically. I meant generally speaking.

sure, but it immediately bears on the situation whether you intended to speak to it or not

[wacey]

sure, but it immediately bears on the situation whether you intended to speak to it or not

Not much more to say.

[flames]

Well, his writing style is far more rambling, flowing and detached than from any "xSI-Se" I've ever seen and he is fairly unaggressive usually... this thing with Adam is actually the first time I've seen him do this and it's kind of shocking. I don't see why "piercing gaze" is only a Se creative thing either. Strong Se, Te, Fi, or Ti can all look piercing to me, even Si can be and Ni is like a soft piercing. And, of course, heavy sx is going to look more piercing regardless of type and I assume he is not sx last.

This only cements the idea to me that ESI is the type of any and every naysayer there ever was. Holding a strong opinion does not make someone ESI.

That's all I have anyways.

[Myst]

sure, but it immediately bears on the situation whether you intended to speak to it or not

So using your recent reasoning you used on me about seeing something relating to you when it wasn't meant to, you are ESI

[Bertrand]

well there's failures of Ne and actual Ne relevance, the distinction which is by definition lost on Ne polr

so im not surprised you equate the two situations

your memory is longer than cassandras though, so there's a silver lining in here somewhere

[maniac]

I think socion role wise, IEI are not meant to chase down ideas per se. They are more tracing the changes in peoples personalities, watching the effects of events of people, watching "softer" skills and qualities as they relate to themselves, their emotions, sentiments, feelings, dynamics, conversational style, awareness of influence, seasonal changes, changes in tempo, course of events, classic awareness of inter-personal concerns, almost mentally videographing their life as they understand it.

This describes me very well besides im mostly focused on myself and whats happening in me. Im always noticing tiny changes in my psychological self and think about why this might have happened and compare it to how I used to be and so on. I detach from myself and examine myself from a -somewhat- objective view.
I am very into enneagram so I like figuring out how and why others operate to an extent aswell.

[wacey]

This describes me very well besides im mostly focused on myself and whats happening in me. Im always noticing tiny changes in my psychological self and think about why this might have happened and compare it to how I used to be and so on. I detach from myself and examine myself from a -somewhat- objective view.
I am very into enneagram so I like figuring out how and why others operate to an extent aswell.

All very high intuition of time activities. Especially the 'objective-detachments' parts you mention. This can play into some of the beta NF neuroses as well. Direct contact with people who are in that head space of "reality" are refreshing as opposed to disturbing.

[Myst]

well there's failures of Ne and actual Ne relevance, the distinction which is by definition lost on Ne polr

so im not surprised you equate the two situations

your memory is longer than cassandras though, so there's a silver lining in here somewhere

Your Ne did fail in my case. You are just being incredibly defensive here and distorting things lol

[Bertrand]

Your Ne did fail in my case. You are just being incredibly defensive here and distorting things lol

guess its battle of the Nes because mine says you're projecting

[Myst]

guess its battle of the Nes because mine says you're projecting

No, I know my actual motivation where you misread it really really really bad.

[Bertrand]

how do you even know what I think your motivation is