By all means, @Minde, break it down for me. I respect your opinion and your thoughts, so I'd like to hear what you have to say. You can do it in a PM if you wish. That would be preferable to me, anyway.Originally Posted by Minde
I'm out for a day or so (travel), so there's no rush.
thank God, Adam needs an EII to break it down for him the same way Medusa needs an ILE. please, please please take Minde up on the offer to work on this
and Adam, I'm saying this because most people just disregard you as a creepy asshole and I don't think that's fair to go around totally deluded like that. You deserve the truth. If nothing else be like Jack and go seclude yourself for a while and come back a new man. its such a waste to live your whole life like that, being on the outs and not knowing it. maybe you don't care, but then you won't care about my assessment either, so whatever. I have to try
How would @Bertrand explain my "relationship" with Adam?
Doesn't seem like Conflict to me.
And I also don't know what an ILE would help me with much. Could you enlighten me?
I don't think I need more silly ideas or possibilities to think about...
Pink elephants? Red dinosaurs? Imagine the illuminati symbol on the backside of your ass!
Whoooo
f yeah.
If you type Bertrand and I as his duals then it's inconsistent for you to use intertype relationships in any context.
Not really. People can have issues with their Duals when their values don't align; especially if they are Fi valuing.
Is duality the exception to intertype relations?
BTW your stance on this - especially when you make jokes about Adam and I bickering like a couple, or talk about how fi-ESIs want to be aggressively chased down - implicitly encourages him to continue violating the boundaries I have unsuccessfully been trying to set with him, which is why I take such issue with it.
The last time I said you were bickering like a couple... was maybe a month ago? Or more?
Anyway, in no shape or form am I suggesting that you two "should be together" or whatever, if that's what you are worried about.
The type of silly ideas are really different in ILE. I can imagine how useful ILE can be to IEIHow would @Bertrand explain my "relationship" with Adam?
Doesn't seem like Conflict to me.
And I also don't know what an ILE would help me with much. Could you enlighten me?
I don't think I need more silly ideas or possibilities to think about...
Pink elephants? Red dinosaurs? Imagine the illuminati symbol on the backside of your ass!
Whoooo
f yeah.
Yeah, just like everybody else.
we employ only the most sophisticated of typing methods here on the16types.info.org.edu.net.com
@Persephone you remind me a bit of Carice van Houten. She's the actress who plays The Red Priestess in GOT- Often typed as EII
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...es-with-Videos
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...ing-EIIs-INFjs
yeah it can go either way, when people tend to not be encouraged according to their base type they tend to resemble their dual more
check this chick out. She types as ILI and after listening to her, I believe her. but she's definitely got more of a SEE style. I think it goes both ways so male SEE will express themselves more like ILI is stereotypically thought of in a lot of ways (blunt, analytical, detached, pragmatic, loner, etc), especially, I believe if they're more internet based, and not like jocks or whatever
I mean it doesn't have to go this way, I'm sure there's goth or whatever female ILIs but its just a phenomenon that I've noticed happens sometimes and I think it has to do with similar core values but inverse strengths, so its almost like one imitates the other but not as well, and then is too good in other ways
I don't know if you're ILI or SEE for sure or not, and I do think the weird tradition of typing people right off the bat may as well be "type my social mask" because you only get a good feel for people after a good chunk of time, and also new people's responses to questions and ideas changes as they themselves develop their own understanding of the theory. its always a cluster at first. id say give it 6 months and then you and the community will have a much stronger idea and a much deeper pool to draw on for assessment
My behavioral loci are clearly more outward than inward most of the time. Sure, maybe I'll crash a bit if a schedule is hard to adapt to or I'm barraged with tasks far outside my comfort zone, but aside from that I'm more likely to feel stir-crazed than bombarded with too much information. I think I'm Extroverted and so do the people immediately around me. And I'm not innately rational, I just try really hard to be.
I may be misrepresenting his rationale, but as I understand it, he types me Fi because I view my emotions as "belonging" to myself rather than my environment. They're a volatile but pervasive part of my mental life. Like I'd rather shell myself off than try to integrate my own feels into a precarious or demanding situation. I think that's what he meant?
But at the same time I don't do a very good job containing them, and each increment of my anger is clearly visible as it builds up to combustion or the stimulus dissipates. Instead of feeling one thing and displaying another, I have to force myself to stop giving a shit for the moment except to complete the task at hand. (This isn't because I think it feels "phony," it's just very hard for me to fake what isn't there.) I'd rather be expected to be polite than warm and gregarious, but it's more in my nature to be blunt and scrappy than polite.
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Think you're on to something.
Yes I've already posted pictures but I usually delete them after some time. People do tell me from time to time I remind them someone but they never get to put the finger on it. Maybe we met in our past lives?
Thanks, you are sweet. I selftype INFJ in MBTI , though I was officially typed INTJ step 1 and 2.
<3 Someone suggested that before, thanks... She is mesmerizing in GOT.@Persephone you remind me a bit of Carice van Houten. She's the actress who plays The Red Priestess in GOT
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...es-with-Videos
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...ing-EIIs-INFjs
not really, no, my Se sucks : )
Ha, fair enough!
What makes you think so?
is ESI all I get? : /
I agree with @neproblems that there is a lot of Se in the second, third, and fourth pics. I'd say you are ESI-Se from VI, TBH. The second pic looks a bit like @blackburry, and the third pic looks a bit like @kalinoche, and the fourth pic just looks ESI.
The woman in your avatar picture, on the other hand, looks like she is an N-type, sort of like spider. I assume that is not you, because.....eyebrows. However, different pictures of one person can vary a lot. Personally, I have taken pictures of me that my own mother didn't recognize.
I am LIE, and I find the second and third pictures attractive. I can see "prettiness" in other types, but duals are a type that I find to actually be attractive*. This typing method may be worth as much and be as subjective as VI, though. Take it with a grain of salt.
*Full disclosure, probably TMI: I find LSI's and SLI's to be attractive, too, but in a different way than ESI's.
do you have any older pics that would illustrate some development over time
i like to get a feel for the flow of a person's life because it seems like people can radically change their image and just a snapshot of one or the other may not be representative of the whole
Si valuing?
yeah robespierre will fight, he just does so like a rooster
in the same way the guy in that video is expressive, its just fucking annoying. thus is the way of the polr
a good way to think of polr is when you go all in you're like a shittier version of your conflictor
@Bert
the pics were from when I was in order, 22, 23, 18, 24
hmm, I picked them because I look fine to me, I usually look awkward in pictures and make the weirdest expressions, kind of too self-consciousness at play... hm, maybe my selection reverted to compensate what I usually lack. It's nice to see what people see anyway : )
yay im the prettiest girl in the socion
yeah I feel the same way about my own pics
looks are so deceitful when people are blind tsk ; )
the "ur hot therefore ESI" method is worthless and you should stop using it
its so Si and Ni polr if there was any doubt in my mind you're LSE that post definitely sealed it
also no one gives a fuck about what you find attractive so you can stop bringing it up at every available opportunity
its Ni creative like me taking a shit is Si creative, and I'm no manzoni
I guess I've selected some pictures that make me look kind of different from how I usually look, I can blame that. It's a pity though that as soon as one appears a bit.. confident (?? Idk what makes you say I'm Se) then it's labelled as Se. Lolling. I'm the least confident person ever anyway : )
@Myst
I can tell I'm not Se because I value intuition, patterns, brain connections, delving in my dreams and in other people's minds as well as in mine. If I focus into something my brain starts scanning all that a subject is about, I don't follow its dynamics anymore and get lost in my head. I'm not Se because I'm not attuned with the "physical" world, so to speak, I don't "live in the moment", so to speak, and I can't take advantage of situations. I'm not organized, not like to keep myself and my environment in place, and I really fail to many of the descriptions of ESI.
Ne is more my thing, and even my subtype, which is supposed to make people more lively than the stereotyped EII you all seem to have in mind.
Nice try : )
Well, you know yourself best.
Have you tried taking any of the standard socionics tests?
Nice try? I wasn't trying to type you anything, I simply asked a question.
I don't have "stereotyped EII" in mind either. I know plenty of EII-Ne's that are not like the stereotype EII (that's more like EII-Fi really).
Anyway, your answer is noted.
@Adam
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these are some of the test I took in the last 2 years, I did more but the results never varied from this... I tried twice now to take the sociotype.com test but it doesn't process, ugh. I usually get straight IEE in there, irrational subtype.
Aha.
Damn, @hubris theory. Before you deleted your original post, I was going to go through your four pics one by one and say which type each one reminded me of. I remember that the fourth one seemed IEE to me. No way to prove that I had that idea before you mentioned it, but I did.
How about the test on sociotype.com? Or consider this: Most people who are fairly well-adjusted are attracted to their duals. Not everyone, not all the time, but it is a trend. I have an IEE bookkeeper, and I showed her a pic of my SLI father, and she said, "What a handsome man." which is more her opinion than mine, but whatever.
She had taken the test at sociotype.com and had gotten ESE as a result. I showed her a picture of an LII that I work with, a great guy, and she said "No. That guy is gross." And talking with her at length, I'm pretty sure she is IEE. Certainly, she is Delta.
Have you considered getting at your type by looking at pics of your possible dual's types?
Well adjusted people don't accuse anyone who tries to set boundaries with them of being crazy. You're a sick person.
@hybris theory have you taken this test yet?
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...TIONAL-ASPECTS
@paranoid
I don't wanna be typed by that girl tbh lol
@Adam
thanks, I have a problem with my duals actually (LSEs), I seem to be more attracted by Se types. Always get in relationship with them, although we split. I don't value much physical looks, I like the vibes people send, confidence, kindness.. hm. You could try post your pics I'd tell you if I find you attractive.
Bertrand very hot ; )
ps. yeah on sociotype I get EIIs like always.. never took a screenshot though and today doesn't work.
tests are just a starting point anyway. I think the whole premise of psychology is that words mean different things to different people so how could one and the same test type everyone accurately all under one umbrella? I think you just hang around and your type will become clearer over time, its really not worth trying to nail down %100 at the onset because its probably going to change anyway. If you can tolerate adam you're probably IEE, if you think he's disgusting (this may take a while since a lot of it is the over time "lingering" Te part of it) then its more ESI
Well, @hubris theory, a lot of people have trouble with their duals. I work with a wonderful female EII and a skilled male LSE, and she has told me that he can be a "pill" sometimes. (Hard to take, that is.) Duals do take some getting used to, especially if you don't have experience with one, and you can be put off by them.
My pictures are on the unofficial pictures thread. http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...16#post1178416
Don't tell me if you think I'm attractive. I don't want to know. Just use the pics for VI, and be aware that many things can alter your sense of whom you think looks good.
If you keep breaking up with Se types, maybe it's time to look at another type. Relationships are all about making your already good life even better, mutual support, and personal growth, and you can't do much of that if you keep breaking up.
I'm sure you'll find someone who is just right for you.
lol what is self awareness
quick! explain to me what projection is and how it applies here
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