Cash me ousside, how bow dat?

[Number 9 large]

Danielle Bregoli


Seems SEE or SLE to me. First impression SLE. Of course wanting her to be SEE for obvious reasons
But I'm pretty sure she's too tough, also witty to be SEE.
Reminds me a bit of Connor Mcgregor, actually, also gives 0 fucks about what people think, and confidence through the roof, very admirable
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...he-MMA-fighter



LOL


LOL this chick is fkin hilarious, watch the first 6 seconds



Wait, she's 14? lmao? Feelsbadman

Anyhow I think SLE, anybody agree?



P.S how do i make this thread NSFW? this 14-yo is making me feel tingly in my pants

[YXPR]

I think that she has low Se/ high intuition and she seems very aware of what she puts out ethically, especially for her age. Also she doesn't seem to be looking for ethical validation at all so not Fe HA.
When I watch her I feel like she needs either someone to punch her in her face or to tell her that it's time to go to bed. I would go for either Se or Si HA.

[Chae]

@Number 9 large @YXPR both of your posts are creepy toward her. Pedophilia and punching people is wrong and harmful, try to make up your minds it's not healthy for you either. It's not about her, it's you. It's also not "just words", it supports real crimes. It also makes you assholes no reasonable person finds funny/edgy/relatable/powerful/respectable/cool/strong/sexy or lovable. You're only lowering yourself.

Hm I see you liking their shit @Cosmic Teapot @kalinoche, pay more attention you're only making it acceptable.

I already know how the replies to this post will look like but at least think about it before ya'll either get defensive or start attacking this which is neither surprising given your uneducated and violent, egocentric mentality. Now go ahead throw more offenses, come on.

[Number 9 large]

Pedophilia and punching people is wrong and harmful

Learn something new everyday

It's also not "just words", it supports real crimes.

What does a joke have to do with supporting crimes

You're only lowering yourself.

It's called satire, part of having a sense of humor

Hm I see you liking their shit @Cosmic Teapot @kalinoche, pay more attention you're only making it acceptable.

Yeah, stop raping kids @Cosmic Teapot @kalinoche . People these days...

[Chae]

Here we study the example of a distraction technique:

Learn something new everyday

When it's obvious to you then why do you engage in it? Because you know it's harmful and would like to get away with it. You don't, by the very nature of this reply. Be more responsible and less immature.

What does a joke have to do with supporting crimes

It's called satire, part of having a sense of humor

Jokes are power in disguise. He who laughs and humiliates strives to dominate, stripping a person off their humanity and integrity. It was so unhumorous that one cannot tell the difference. A good joke doesn't involve violence or being attracted to having sex with kids. When I threaten to choke you unconscious, please giggle happily because the satire is so excellent - see how this demonstrates what the case is? Why do you think language reminiscent of domestic violence is funny? Tell me. The joke missed its aim, it's rather worrying. Are you actually okay? A person who says things like that has probably experienced harmful things themselves, I am sorry for this and hope you find perspective and health.

Yeah, stop raping kids @Cosmic Teapot @kalinoche . People these days...

They don't rape. People like you do, who actively convey these attitudes. Supporters are the ones that keep you out of jail. Your reply and shifting are quite unreflected, disappointing but not a big surprise. I hope this will stay in your mind. Well you already bothered answering, goal achieved, you listened

Go on replying with just anything and I know you take this to heart.
Or insult me so I know it hit a spot.

[Number 9 large]

When it's obvious to you then why do you engage in it?

Engage in what? Pedophilia?

Jokes are power in disguise.

Uhm, okay

He who laughs and humiliates strives to dominate, stripping a person off their humanity and integrity.

Or they're just trying to have a laugh. You should try it sometime.

A good joke doesn't involve violence or being attracted to having sex with kids.

That's your opinion. Your opinion isn't law. @Myst this is what I meant by people thinking their morals and values should be law, and if you don't adhere to their rules they try to make you look bad. So goddamn annoying.

When I threaten to choke you unconscious, please giggle happily because the satire is so excellent - see how this demonstrates what the case is?

Uh, no cuz that wasn't funny

Why do you think language reminiscent of domestic violence is funny?

Anything can be funny. Depends on your perspective.

They don't rape. People like you do,

Wait, you're calling me a rapist now? LOL

Go on replying with just anything and I know you take this to heart.

Yeah, I'll defend my right to free speech, thank you very much.

[squark]

They don't rape. People like you do, who actively convey these attitudes. Supporters are the ones that keep you out of jail. .

Hold on. He found her attractive and then found out she was 14, felt weird about it and made a joke. There's no raping going on here. You'd probably react similarly if you found out one of those guys you crush on was underage, yes? You might want to save the outrage for real crimes, there are enough of them.

[Chae]

Hold on. He found her attractive and then found out she was 14, felt weird about it and made a joke. There's no raping going on here. You'd probably react similarly if you found out one of those guys you crush on was underage, yes? You might want to save the outrage for real crimes, there are enough of them.

The attitude conveys pedophilia and rape culture which is the cause of crime, rage for actions that are already carried out don't change anything. Prevention is key and people take it lightly (as is the case on a forum, it matters more than you'd think), that is sad. Well, you're only concerned if it concerns you. "Til it happens to you"

[YXPR]

Hold on. He found her attractive and then found out she was 14, felt weird about it and made a joke. There's no raping going on here. You'd probably react similarly if you found out one of those guys you crush on was underage, yes? You might want to save the outrage for real crimes, there are enough of them.

Faking being outraged is just a classical Attention Whore move. Attention is what she wanted, what she got, and the only thing that seems to matter to her even though she hides it behind pseudo-humanist values.

[YXPR]

@Number 9 large @YXPR both of your posts are creepy toward her. Pedophilia and punching people is wrong and harmful, try to make up your minds it's not healthy for you either. It's not about her, it's you. It's also not "just words", it supports real crimes. It also makes you assholes no reasonable person finds funny/edgy/relatable/powerful/respectable/cool/strong/sexy or lovable. You're only lowering yourself.

Hm I see you liking their shit @Cosmic Teapot @kalinoche, pay more attention you're only making it acceptable.

I already know how the replies to this post will look like but at least think about it before ya'll either get defensive or start attacking this which is neither surprising given your uneducated and violent, egocentric mentality. Now go ahead throw more offenses, come on.

lol wtf are you talking about? I didn't say anything that would qualify me as an asshole. You can get off your high horse and keep that kind of remarks to yourself. You make so many assumptions based on nothing. How does what I said support crimes and who are you to say who is reasonable and who is not? Do you even realise what you are saying? You might be some kind of fairy princess in your head or to some people here but to me you are just condescending. You can't just flaunt your ethics around thinking that people have to bow down to it. At least miss me with that BS please, I didn't ask for it.

[Chae]

lol wtf are you talking about? I didn't say anything that would qualify me as an asshole. You can get off your high horse and keep that kind of remarks to yourself. You make so many assumptions based on nothing. How does what I said support crimes and who are you to say who is reasonable and who is not? Do you even realise what you are saying? You might be some kind of fairy princess in your head or to some people here but to me you are just condescending. You can't just flaunt your ethics around thinking that people have to bow down to it. At least miss me with that BS please, I didn't ask for it.

Context matters you know. The punch if the face was a reference to Se HA if you read well. It's like you are just looking for any occasion to make yourself look virtuous even if you have make idiotic assumptions and discredit other people. This is fucked up and very sad. Awful.

And I still can't believe that you called that guy a rapist. Words have meanings you know...

Please do discuss further. Or is it enough to just demonize people and then move on like it was ok to do so?

No to those as well.

@Chae don't tell us what to do. We are not children and can think for ourselves.

What you do is called the "Handmaiden".

[Cosmic Teapot]

What you do is called the "Handmaiden".

Disgusting move.

[Chae]

Disgusting move.

Yes, precisely. That's what being a supporter is.

[Kalinoche buenanoche]

@Chae, what was the initial offence?

maybe this is a bunch of bs but my understading is that:

Her mother had an agenda and apparently there is some strong enmeshment the girl is trying to break free from. She does that by playing on what comes natural at this point in her life; boundless energy stemming from a newfound sexuality. It seems so eye-catching because that is the only tool that she can virtually track in order to become her own person. In one of the videos, there is a quite recent photo of her and the mother. They are smiley and hug each other and the girl looks all sporty and covered up. It is likely that the mother has been infantilizing her daughter and at some point the girl felt that her mother is not who she appears to be and the mommy dearest image fell apart. The first time the mother was on the show, she was a doe-eyed, covert damsel-in-distress and was trying to cover up her cooch. The daughter tries to beat her mother using her mother's means but this still works in favor of the mother because she can act demure. The mother is one step ahead and the tropes work.

This is not about being sexualized by much (?) older people from the tender age of 13/14, this is about her being conditioned to believe that the only way to exist is by being a caricature. The girl has been trying to get the locus of control in her hands. After the show, it remained in the hands of her mother who ''turned out to be right after all'' because not they have money and are famous. The girl is on her way to becoming a Kardashian. Dr. Phil and her mum both won. Dr. Phil called her mum out on wanting to sell her daughter, therefore the mother is the reason why his educational trip did not ''reform'' the girl. The mother got her daughter an agent and now have a youtube channel with videos that get millions of views. Now the mother and the daughter are some sort of partners in crime.

with this in mind, in my opinion, it is more oomphy to target problematic primary caregivers than horny people (be them young girls or old men).

Chae, what I get from this is that you are very much against objectification and I find this very worthwhile. However, a different kind of objectification can cause the same effect.

[Chae]

@kalinoche you did miss the point completely, or was the elaboration just for the topic itself?

Wait, she's 14? lmao? Feelsbadman

P.S how do i make this thread NSFW? this 14-yo is making me feel tingly in my pants

When I watch her I feel like she needs either someone to punch her in her face

Speaks for itself, it's transparent, don't even see the need to discuss futher.

[YXPR]

@kalinoche you did miss the point completely, or was the elaboration just for the topic itself?





Speaks for itself, it's transparent, don't even see the need to discuss futher.

Context matters you know. The punch if the face was a reference to Se HA if you read well. It's like you are just looking for any occasion to make yourself look virtuous even if you have make idiotic assumptions and discredit other people. This is fucked up and very sad. Awful.

And I still can't believe that you called that guy a rapist. Words have meanings you know...

Please do discuss further. Or is it enough to just demonize people and then move on like it was ok to do so?

[Kalinoche buenanoche]

@Chae, I cannot really tell. You appear to have a more pristine and explicit thought process that champions itself. What I go for at this point is adding more parameters and see where the pieces fall.


In hindsight my clicking on the like button does appear to be thoughtless*. I did like her confidence and perseverance (most likely because she is the opposite of me when I was her age). It is indeed the counterphobic kind of confidence.

*However, I do not regret it, especially since you made me post something more elaborate than usual

[Chae]

@Chae, I cannot really tell. You appear to have a more pristine and explicit thought process that champions itself. What I go for at this point is adding more parameters and see where the pieces fall.

Hm, okay good.

[Kalinoche buenanoche]

@Chae, will society get safer if people become less vocal about what arouses them?

[Chae]

@Chae, will society get safer if people become less vocal about what arouses them?

Very on-point question. Arousal is stigmatized and tabooed as well as a method of objectifying (=owning, controlling, ruling), making negative dangerous manifestations even more intense and tempting due to prohibition and repression, and more negative as it isn't arousal with good intent. If people become less vocal either the focus shifts to healthier expressions, becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy, creating safety. The other outcome is that making it even more silent fuels the stigma-hate-violent outburst dynamic, increasing safety threat. The latter appears likelier to me, asking for changing the problem with arousal attached with harm at the root. You even implied their connection by linking it in your sentence.

[ashlesha]

I like your analysis @kalinoche. Personally tho I think bad parents are troubled themselves while men who fuck young teenagers are just opportunistic and taking advantage so I give more leeway to the former. (not putting number 9 in this category ftr even tho I thought it was gross)

Cash me outside girl seems SEE in the videos to me.

[Adam Strange]

I like your analysis @kalinoche. Personally tho I think bad parents are troubled themselves while men who fuck young teenagers are just opportunistic and taking advantage so I give more leeway to the former. (not putting number 9 in this category ftr even tho I thought it was gross)

Cash me outside girl seems SEE in the videos to me.

Personally tho I think men who fuck young teenagers are troubled themselves.

[ashlesha]

Personally tho I think men who fuck young teenagers are troubled themselves.

Maybe you should talk to them about it and not me.

[Adam Strange]

Maybe you should talk to them about it and not me.

Well, I'm not the thought police.

Personally, the youngest woman I've slept with was 22 (I was 25) and the greatest age difference has been seven years (both younger and older), and I think anything much beyond that is opening yourself up to potentially very difficult problems. But I can see that when it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck and has feathers that it is hard not to think of it as a duck. That does not mean I'm going to be preparing Duck a l'Orange tonight.

[ashlesha]

Well, I'm not the thought police.

Personally, the youngest woman I've slept with was 22 (I was 25) and the greatest age difference has been seven years (both younger and older), but I can see that when it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck and has feathers that it is hard not to think of it as a duck. That does not mean I'm going to be preparing Duck a l'Orange tonight.

@kalinoche had the most sensible things to say about this, frankly.

Where did I ask you to be the thought police? I don't give a fuck about your sex life.

[Chae]

Personally tho I think men who fuck young teenagers are troubled themselves.

Yes. This is why @Number 9 large uses Transkarian logic, hopeless case. The part he didn't answer was the one if he's okay which says everything. The words left unspoken are the most important ones, the rest is just ego and image for all of us.

[Number 9 large]

The part he didn't answer was the one if he's okay which says everything.

I left it out because it was ad hominem. The fact that you don't respond to my points and retort to ad hominem is very childish and usual when people run out of solid arguments in a debate.

I mean, I could probably figure out why you dislike that I sexualise this 14yo as a joke so much, it's probably cuz you're ugly af no man will ever touch you, and secretely you are jealous. But hey, that doesn't add to the discussion does it now?

[ashlesha]

I mean, I could probably figure out why you dislike that I sexualise this 14yo as a joke so much, it's probably cuz you're ugly af no man will ever touch you, and secretely you are jealous. But hey, that doesn't add to the discussion does it now?

I disliked it cuz I've been a troubled 14 yr old girl. Which is why I don't like Adam coming in here telling me what's up like he understands it better than I do.

[Chae]

I left it out because it was ad hominem. The fact that you don't respond to my points and retort to ad hominem made me seem right in my case

All arguments are personal, ad hominem is default. You used it yourself, "You should try it sometime" and the "That's your opinion" "your opinion isn't law" part. And you still didn't answer the question, stop evading it. You fear the answer as you are vulnerable but I understand to some degree. Your perpetual tactic is shifting the focus away from the real questions i.e. why you deem battering to be humor. There is no perspective. Only (potential) perpetrators like it to be light and funny, someone who is at risk (girls like her) would never do this. You are too transparent that's why it's boring to counter the arguments, and probably even dangerous since you use most methods abusers apply. You're pretty fucked up and need help + need to be kept away from others with your violent attitudes. We're on a forum with a pedophile also supporting the beating of women. This requires change. But me saying that to you won't enlighten your mind, only you can do this. Yet now the thought is in your head, that's enough, be kind and don't hurt others. A person who loves themselves could never hurt another in the way you suggest covertly in jokes. So the essential thing I want to convey at the core of all this is not hating yourself and projecting it violently or in a sexually exploitative manner

[Adam Strange]

I mean, I could probably figure out why you dislike that I sexualise this 14yo as a joke so much, it's probably cuz you're ugly af no man will ever touch you, and secretely you are jealous. But hey, that doesn't add to the discussion does it now?

Lol. Actually, lungs is quite pretty. She has a nice voice, too*, and she seems to be able to get laid when she wants. She's just doing the moral ESI thing here, because you touched on the subject that she's most sensitive to.


*This surprised me. I thought she'd sound like a saw hitting a nail because some of her posts can be so harsh, but no. Her voice is warm and intelligent. Go figure.

[Chae]

Real girls don't care when they are insulted by their appearance since that's not where they get their value from, unlike others who want to define them that way to make them weak. It's rather futile still, just a portrait of the one who does the insulting.

[flames]

Cash me ousside girl = obvious SEE

anyways this drama is stupid I'm out

[strangeling]

first thought - jailbait
*reads part of thread*
second thought - why is Chae taking a joke so personally. I guess she would have gave me shit for saying "jailbait"
*reads more of thread*
third thought - why is Lungs being a douche to Adam for giving her an impersonal opinion. Always in crusader mode I guess...
*reads more of thread*
what does any of this have to do with pedophilia and why is Adam calling people pretty anyway...
*reads rest of thread*

anyways this drama is stupid I'm out

...let's be duelz/dualz.

Thoughts on type: ghetto esfp-se

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ The magic of socionics. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Adam Strange]

first thought - jailbait
*reads part of thread*
second thought - why is Chae taking a joke so personally. I guess she would have gave me shit for saying "jailbait"
*reads more of thread*
third thought - why is Lungs being a douche to Adam for giving her an impersonal opinion. Always in crusader mode I guess...
*reads more of thread*
what does any of this have to do with pedophilia and why is Adam calling people pretty anyway...
*reads rest of thread*



...let's be duelz/dualz.

Thoughts on type: ghetto esfp-se

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ The magic of socionics. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@strangeling, I was responding to something that wasn't said. Fairly typical of me.

As for the rest,

When I was a boy, I discovered science fiction stories, and one of the first ones I read was a story about a group of galactic patrolmen who crash land on a planet unknown to them. Their captain dies in the crash, they can't repair their ship, and no one will rescue them. As they begin to explore their surroundings, they discover an abandoned city, desolate for a long time. However, one of the patrolmen is telepathic, and his mind accidentally "touches" the mind of an individual from a hostile warrior race in the city. He recoils in shock, and I very well remember the author describing the patrolman's reaction as being a result of him having been a prisoner of that race, before being rescued.

This struck a deep chord in me. My father spent time in the military, fighting. My mother is a narcissist and on some level, had been trying to mentally replace "me" with her corrupted version of me since I was small. I entirely sympathized with the mental "touchiness" of the patrolman. He had been through a very bad experience, and was now very, very sensitive to intrusions into the defensive boundaries that he had been forced to build in order to survive.

It was something I could relate to. That passage was one of the most memorable parts of the book, and I returned to it years later, trying to figure out why it meant so much to me.

[ashlesha]

why is Lungs being a douche to Adam for giving her an impersonal opinion.

why is Adam calling people pretty anyway...

Meditate on this for awhile.
Also reflect on the phrase "impersonal opinion."

Just some impersonal advice. Take it or leave it, sexy I hear you're gamma so i know you'll see things my way once you mature a little I'll be sure to pm you more advice later. You might not like it right away, but give it time and once you're enlightened enough to know what's good for you you'll be in the palm of my hand, you beautiful gamma brethren.

[Bertrand]

You might not like it right away, but give it time and once you're enlightened enough to know what's good for you you'll be in the palm of my hand

i volunteer as tribute

[Kill4Me]

SEE-Se insults pull from imagination more than SLE-Ti insults do. Deadpool is a good example of a fictional SEE-Se because the dialogue is perfectly written for that type's cognition. They lack the hard-headed realism of SLE-Ti. SLE-Ti insults are usually pretty truthful but can simplify reality through lots of omission, both internally and externally. SLE-Ti is tougher in that sense and therefore drawn more into careers and arenas where competition and aggression is valued. SEE-Se is drawn more down the avenue of pop-culture, comedy, entertainment. They don't thrive in and relish high stakes, cutthroat environments like the SLE-Ti does. Not that other types don't participate in these arenas, but the SLE-Ti are usually leaders and rugged individualists in these arenas. In other words, very confident in calling their own shots because their cognition is so naturally calibrated to warfare. With SEE-Se, there's more of a search for popularity.

SEE-Se insults are also more general and not situation-specific. Trump had some sexually crude remarks to make, but he did not go on youtube plastering those remarks for everybody to hear. That would be like shooting his ambitions in the foot. It was specific to a couple of guys being on a bus. SEE-Se is more likely to make the sex tapes and youtube videos of them doing stuff that goes for over-the-top shock value. SEI-Fi as well....but for SEI-Fi, there's always an artistic pretension attached to their public, anarchistic crudeness (i.e. Ozzy Osbourne, Wendy O Williams, Marilyn Manson, Jim Morrison).

[flames]

first thought - jailbait
*reads part of thread*
second thought - why is Chae taking a joke so personally. I guess she would have gave me shit for saying "jailbait"
*reads more of thread*
third thought - why is Lungs being a douche to Adam for giving her an impersonal opinion. Always in crusader mode I guess...
*reads more of thread*
what does any of this have to do with pedophilia and why is Adam calling people pretty anyway...
*reads rest of thread*



...let's be duelz/dualz.

Thoughts on type: ghetto esfp-se

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ The magic of socionics. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Pookie]

Lol this got way too serious.

[Adam Strange]

Lol this got way too serious.

Nah. In any case, the discussion was better than the video. I just watched it, and it is exactly why I don't watch TV any more.