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    Quote Originally Posted by Durian View Post
    Thank you so much @nifl! That cleared my confusion. And yes, you are right about not needing to "match another person". As I've barely touched the surface and have basic understanding of socionics, I want to ask about every single little thing that doesn't match or relates to other types to gain confidence in my self typing and learn more about all the other types as well.
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    The way you are has a lot to do with your upbringing as well as the ethical construction you have made for yourself as in “how will I approach other “ and “how I want others to approach me “

    We come from very different backgrounds and have different formed ethics
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
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    The way you are has a lot to do with your upbringing as well as the ethical construction you have made for yourself as in “how will I approach other “ and “how I want others to approach me “
    Hmm... I don't think I quite understand. Do you mean that upbringing and ethical construction of what one has decided for themselves relate to wanting to appear emotionally pleasant? Or rather, that depending on factors such as upbringing, attitudes/behaviors towards "emotional pleasantness" would change, even within a type?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Durian View Post
    Hmm... I don't think I quite understand. Do you mean that upbringing and ethical construction of what one has decided for themselves relate to wanting to appear emotionally pleasant? Or rather, that depending on factors such as upbringing, attitudes/behaviors towards "emotional pleasantness" would change, even within a type?
    That you form your own ethics outside of what society dictates makes you an Fi
    Emotional pleasantness is individual related not type or rather not functional. It’s based solely on how you feel
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    That you form your own ethics outside of what society dictates makes you an Fi
    Emotional pleasantness is individual related not type or rather not functional. It’s based solely on how you feel
    I see I think I understand the emotional pleasantness now... Sorry I'm asking a bunch of questions, but do you mean me individually forming ethics outside society or EII in general? If it's the former, what part of my statements is forming ethics outside of what society dictates?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Durian View Post
    I see I think I understand the emotional pleasantness now... Sorry I'm asking a bunch of questions, but do you mean me individually forming ethics outside society or EII in general? If it's the former, what part of my statements is forming ethics outside of what society dictates?
    I noticed you needed a lot of clearly as to help you understand this stuff. You can contact me by PM if you want more information
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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