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    All IEI unlike EII are purposeful and classy dressers EII don't care about the material world (they are seek to spiritual and moral understanding of the world around them). I would say EII befriend the weak the marganinalized member of society and IEI care more about who they associate with and seek to tie with upper enchalants.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa View Post
    All IEI unlike EII are purposeful and classy dressers EII don't care about the material world (they are seek to spiritual and moral understanding of the world around them). I would say EII befriend the weak the marganinalized member of society and IEI care more about who they associate with and seek to tie with upper enchalants.
    I'd say those aren't related.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa View Post
    All IEI unlike EII are purposeful and classy dressers EII don't care about the material world (they are seek to spiritual and moral understanding of the world around them). I would say EII befriend the weak the marganinalized member of society and IEI care more about who they associate with and seek to tie with upper enchalants.
    By this logic I am technically an EII. I'm just wondering if it's important to observe the motivations/circumstances behind your actions? It's not that I don't like being a classy dresser, I like mixing and matching clothes and jewellery quite a bit and did a lot more when I was younger. I have always dressed pretty nicely, but simply - my style tends to shift and change based on my moods or phases. I don't dress the way I do because I'm trying to be practical or thrifty... aesthetics matters to me - I'm just not always motivated to dress up or put a lot of effort into my looks - sometimes I'm really into it, other times not so much.

    I also don't actively seek out weak or marginalised people as such or go out of my way to do so... I have had the tendency to be snobby in this regard. I have always enjoyed interacting with more popular people or appealing to more popular crowds, but haven't always had the confidence maintain or establish ties. My closest friends are people I've bonded with on some kind of deep level. They don't fall into the category of being weak or marginalised, but they are generally speaking very independent people that I feel some kind of mental or emotional connection with.

    Would anyone be able to direct me to any descriptions of how unhealthy versions of EII and IEI act/dress etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thelocust View Post
    By this logic I am technically an EII. I'm just wondering if it's important to observe the motivations/circumstances behind your actions? It's not that I don't like being a classy dresser, I like mixing and matching clothes and jewellery quite a bit and did a lot more when I was younger. I have always dressed pretty nicely, but simply - my style tends to shift and change based on my moods or phases. I don't dress the way I do because I'm trying to be practical or thrifty... aesthetics matters to me - I'm just not always motivated to dress up or put a lot of effort into my looks - sometimes I'm really into it, other times not so much.

    I also don't actively seek out weak or marginalised people as such or go out of my way to do so... I have had the tendency to be snobby in this regard. I have always enjoyed interacting with more popular people or appealing to more popular crowds, but haven't always had the confidence maintain or establish ties. My closest friends are people I've bonded with on some kind of deep level. They don't fall into the category of being weak or marginalised, but they are generally speaking very independent people that I feel some kind of mental or emotional connection with.

    Would anyone be able to direct me to any descriptions of how unhealthy versions of EII and IEI act/dress etc?
    I would say more alpha. It's Fe that focuses on motivation
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa View Post
    I would say more alpha. It's Fe that focuses on motivation
    Yeah, but Ne/Ni sees things from multiple perspectives... I'm not strictly focused on motivation, but I think it's a perspective worth taking into consideration.

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