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    Communism killed more people than fascism. That's a fact, regardless of "free" education/healthcare (technically no such thing).

    Noone has to chose between the two anyways, and anyone who says you do is retarded. ****** despised liberalism just as much as he did marxism, so there are other political ideologies out there than communism and fascism, which despite their differences, are not opposite to each other as they also have alot in common. Anyone who creates a false alternative between fascism and communism to win people over to one or the other loses my respect, as noone has to chose between the two.

    The United States and western ideology is rooted in classical liberalism, not fascism, anyone who suggests that western society even so much as resembles nazi Germany is a complete retard, or just a propagandist, nazi Germany, when you study the roots of its worldview is so different from what we call the west that it is fairer not to speak of different worlds, but of different universes. To quote Louis Pauwels, the west has more in common with an Amazonian tribe than with nazi Germany (not the exact quote but you get the point).

    Classical liberalism, fascism, and marxism are three very different ideologies, and only the adherents of the latter seem to confuse the first two, not realizing the first two probably have less in common with one another than they (marxists) do with fascism.

    The main difference between authoritarianism on the "left" vs authoritarianism on the "right", was that the former killed alot more people than the latter. I'd be willing to bet the so called "free education" of the USSR and Maoist China was not education at all, if it was people would have been more critical of the system they were being brought up in, as the role of education is to teach critical thinking skills. It wasn't free either, nothing is, just that someone else was paying for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avebury View Post
    Communism killed more people than fascism.
    Stupid propaganda. Communism killed no one. It's only collective humanistic ideology with the task to allow anyone to do the best he can for the interests of the most. Which is opposite to egocentric ideologies like cannibalistic liberalism/capitalism which is like cancer and criminals.
    Formal communists killed mostly the ones who were against the interests of humanity and the most of people (in nation, for example). For example, they killed and supressed fascists and other antihumanistic scum.
    Fascism in essence is individualistic ideology close to liberalism (including today capitalism) under the surface cover of national socialism. Try to count how many people were killed by the rule of egocentric capitalists and similar individualistic ideologies. Many more. Who and why were killed? Common people to more rob and exploit them.
    Who made war in Syria with mad islamists? - USA's scum. Who arised ******? - USA and Britain. Who organised both World Wars? - USA and partly Britain. Who did many wars in 20 century? Mostly capitalists. Who makes terrible life conditions to other nations by robing them where people die from crimes, sickness and other negative factors, can't to born children because of poverty - capitalists.
    What [besides taking part in civil war] USSR did in Afganistan? - built factories, roads, schools. What USA do there? - rise drugs and support the economical backwardness. USSR cared about people. USA just robs for own needs. This is the difference.

    Also there are huge falsifications in anti-communistic propaganda. Like idiotic numbers about 100 millions killed in USSR for political reasons. There were 2 hard wars: civil and with ******ists, and this leaded to ~700 death condemnations for politics during 1922-1953 years. Significant part of those political were prisoned nazis and their helpers. And some have died being prisoned due to different reasons. ~2-3 mil in sum. You may count what is that % of USSR population and then compare the % of killed/died during civil wars and inprisoned enemies in other countries like USA and France. You'll find nothing special about communists there.

    It's a day of nice derails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Stupid propaganda.
    Oh, how ironic, considering the rest of your post is nothing but propaganda.

    I can't even read that shit, it's unbearable.

    Do you even believe yourself?

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