USA politics following Trump's election

[Kill4Me]

dementia joe the creepy molester showed his Si-creative colors in spades this past month by the amount of time it took him to respond to that woman he fondled in creepy dementia joe fashion some years back...

yeah i don't respond ot a lot of hsit on here directed at me because i can't prioritize this shit...i got a life, i make money...i want to make that billion. i can't waste time sittin' around here respondin to shit that don't put no power glory fame in my pocket. it aint' my job neither, i'm king of typology, rooks and bishops need to be steppin up and showin' an ambition to move up in the world of American Socionics. plus it ain't no challenge...i dominated this whole forum on a thread, me against like all the anti-jungians, but none of them alone could take on the entire board...because they're weak. i can do that, its no challenge to me...i'm one man army. i crushed absurd, i destroyed misterni, i crushed the antijungians, the paranoiac from the black panther thread who goes runnin to the mods, i burieed world socionics society...its no challenge, its too easy

but creepy molester dementia job veggin' the fuck out on his Si-creative....

he's VEGGIN THE FCUK out on Si-creative.

Media is the one pressin the attack for him....attack i laid out on the dummy trump thread before any muthafckr knew what time of day it was.

[kingslayer]

yeah i don't respond ot a lot of hsit on here directed at me because i can't prioritize this shit...i got a life, i make money...i want to make that billion. i can't waste time sittin' around here respondin to shit that don't put no power glory fame in my pocket.

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[Desert Financial]

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[Kill4Me]

Dummy Trump is pushing the right strategy to beat Dementia Joe the creepy molester by attacking Hussein Obama... dementia joe is barack hussein obama's puppet so Trump's strategy is to squash the head of the puppet master. Chop off the head and the body falls. This was biden's election to win but he was so Si-creative vegged out in his basement he has missed out on essential opportunities. This was a super Si-creative vegged out thing to say (whenever Biden is against the ropes he gets all defeatist and comes out with some 'look at me the self-deprecating pussy' statement):

“I wouldn’t vote for me if I believed Tara Reade.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/14/u...ara-reade.html

https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-...primary-2020-2

[Kill4Me]

Finally Dementia Joe posted this 16 hours ago...

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1261450037739106304

I WAS SAYING THAT 2 MONTHS AGO

https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...very-low!-quot

https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...59#post1380459

this demonstrates my complete ownership and dominance over the Wuhan Virus thread.

I strongly intended to vote against Trump but Dementia Joe's failure to act sooner in picking up on and grilling Trump for his incompetence makes Dementia Joe the creepy molester even more incompetent than Dummy Trump.

I would do a better job than either one of these boneheads ever could when it comes to leading the Country.

[Kill4Me]

check it out check it out dementia joe the creepy molester completely sissified, pussified, bitchified in his mask...also tells charlemagne the bitch that "you ain't black" if you lean towards Trump. biden quickly SI-creative vegges out when the remark stirs media public backlash. Biden quickly sought to restore harmony with the black community by explaining himself as just being a wiseguy. Pussified punk Biden is no SLE-Ti, SeTi cognition does not back down from media backlash to remarks by trying to explain it as "I was just being a wiseguy." Biden is Se-posturing/role...In contrast to LSE-Si, SeTi cognition doubles down on said remark once put out there and caught fire of from media backlash, not takes their chips off the table like Si-creative vegged out Dementia Joe the creepy molester...

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/terry...125826533.html

[Kill4Me]

right now bidenz most rational choice for woman VP is elizabeth warren because he can exploit her brother's death from coronavirus (allegedly) to gain political brownie points by saying his life could have been saved if dummy trump acted sooner...they can also squeeze out some sympathy votes like two dogs. out of all the woman pols she is the only one that brings any political capital to the table on account of her brother's death allegedly from coronavirus. let's see if dementia joe the creepy molester is at least sharp enough to figure that one out...only limitation is that he'd better first check the death certificate, if it came out she was lying about his cause of death like she lied about her indian bloodlines that would really blow up in dementia joe's face (it'd be superz funny!)

[cactagon]

right now bidenz most rational choice for woman VP is elizabeth warren because he can exploit her brother's death from coronavirus (allegedly) to gain political brownie points by saying his life could have been saved if dummy trump acted sooner...they can also squeeze out some sympathy votes like two dogs. out of all the woman pols she is the only one that brings any political capital to the table on account of her brother's death allegedly from coronavirus. let's see if dementia joe the creepy molester is at least sharp enough to figure that one out...only limitation is that he'd better first check the death certificate, if it came out she was lying about his cause of death like she lied about her indian bloodlines that would really blow up in dementia joe's face (it'd be superz funny!)

It's superz funny to watch you bitch out. Meet me on Zoom/Skype. Bring a dumbell or get retyped. Do you even Logic?

[xerx]

Bad actors in government are likely already planning to crack down on liberties using these riots as an excuse.

[kingslayer]

Bad actors in government are likely already planning to crack down on liberties using these riots as an excuse.

They've already begun. They arrested a reporter, now this

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreak...ng_you_police/

Philadelphia was a war zone last night... The police in Flint, Michigan took off their riot gear and marched with the people.. Shit even the Amish are joining in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lck5ON8OZEg

don't forget the NYPD using "de-escalation techniques" as their mayor called it Friday, then got on TV last night and defended these actions. Stupid piece of shit.

[xerx]

They've already begun. They arrested a reporter, now this

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreak...ng_you_police/

Philadelphia was a war zone last night... The police in Flint, Michigan took off their riot gear and marched with the people.. Shit even the Amish are joining in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lck5ON8OZEg

don't forget the NYPD using "de-escalation techniques" as their mayor called it Friday, then got on TV last night and defended these actions. Stupid piece of shit.

That's nice to hear about the Police in Flint.

[Kill4Me]

I love it. The Antifa pussy squad is now a domestic terrorist organization...a perfect label for a bunch of worthless subhumans. I have been saying it from day one, a good antifa is a dead antifa, one to one they piss themselves. Dummy Trump's response to COVID-19 showed mega incompetence, but his response to these liberal crackpot rioters gets an A. Send in the special forces to regain control, god knows that Mayor beta bitch Frey ain't got the Bs to do anything about it. Ole' BLOOD & GUTS

[Aylen]

I love it. The Antifa pussy squad is now a domestic terrorist organization...a perfect label for a bunch of worthless subhumans. I have been saying it from day one, a good antifa is a dead antifa, one to one they piss themselves. Dummy Trump's response to COVID-19 showed mega incompetence, but his response to these liberal crackpot rioters gets an A. Send in the special forces to regain control, god knows that Mayor beta bitch Frey ain't got the Bs to do anything about it. Ole' BLOOD & GUTS

We don't have a domestic terrorism law but even if we did Antifa is not an organization, it's a movement. Trump has no authority to do what you are claiming so you are wrong. He said it but it doesn't make it true since it would have to pass into law first then face serious first amendment challenges. He was just doing what he does best campaigning and seeking the approval of his base.

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We don't have a domestic terrorism law but even if we did Antifa is not an organization, it's a movement. Trump has no authority to do what you are claiming so you are wrong. He said it but it doesn't make it true since it would have to pass into law first then face serious first amendment challenges. He was just doing what he does best campaigning and seeking the approval of his base.

Hahaha! So do you support the literal commie insurrectionists intent on genociding all those who, like me, believe in the Christ? If you are not of their number I will tell you that I've known of them from before 2010. I felt that Trump would/should label them as terrorists right after he got elected but hey, that was me assuming others possess my level and an inclination to listen to folks making rational arguments about things that they do not directly experience. Or, to tone it down a bit, me assuming "normies" could break their programming in regards to issues like this.

Think about it, when have you encountered a real "true believer" in the "Social Justice" gospel? Even I have only the abstract concept of that event for I lack the "concrete" experience (for reasons pertaining to my priority of self-preservation above most all else I'd wager). To a true "death cultist" as I rightly label them, I'm a fucking Greater Daemon of Chaos. To die in order to slay me would be well worth it for them. Obviously, I stay well the fuck away from them as I pray that they realize the fact that they are all doing the devil's work.

Like I've said many times before, teaching moments are accidents of providence. If I could engineer one for everyone on this forum or for you in particular, I would. I cannot sadly. Thus, I must place my faith in the lord that you and others like you will someday see the light...

Also, calling the next step here, you're going to see black protesters getting sniped/heads blown off/rendered into a fine pink mist. Fun fact the media won't mention is that they got sniped by their own "side" as it were. Never thought the glowies would try to pull a color revolution on our own soil but that seems to be what they're going for now. Look up what happened to Ukraine a few years ago folks. Try to *not* see the similarities.

[SGF]

Isn't Minneapolis a "blue" liberal city?

I was reading P.J Buchanan on this and he kinda has a point:

"What we witnessed this week in Minneapolis is a failure of liberalism."

"At the least, the recognition that while the killing of George Floyd was an atrocity that cries out for justice, so, too, does the rampant criminality that exploded in its aftermath.

But because of the failure to condemn that criminality, and the paralysis of Minnesota’s political leadership class, the black community in Minneapolis has lost hundreds of businesses — some forever — that had provided them with the necessities of a decent life.
Liberals may equate the term “law and order” with racism, but without law and order, there is no justice and no peace."

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Makes sense to me. Rioting was/is stupid.

[Aylen]

Hahaha! So do you support the literal commie insurrectionists intent on genociding all those who, like me, believe in the Christ? If you are not of their number I will tell you that I've known of them from before 2010. I felt that Trump would/should label them as terrorists right after he got elected but hey, that was me assuming others possess my level and an inclination to listen to folks making rational arguments about things that they do not directly experience. Or, to tone it down a bit, me assuming "normies" could break their programming in regards to issues like this.

Think about it, when have you encountered a real "true believer" in the "Social Justice" gospel? Even I have only the abstract concept of that event for I lack the "concrete" experience (for reasons pertaining to my priority of self-preservation above most all else I'd wager). To a true "death cultist" as I rightly label them, I'm a fucking Greater Daemon of Chaos. To die in order to slay me would be well worth it for them. Obviously, I stay well the fuck away from them as I pray that they realize the fact that they are all doing the devil's work.

Like I've said many times before, teaching moments are accidents of providence. If I could engineer one for everyone on this forum or for you in particular, I would. I cannot sadly. Thus, I must place my faith in the lord that you and others like you will someday see the light...

Also, calling the next step here, you're going to see black protesters getting sniped/heads blown off/rendered into a fine pink mist. Fun fact the media won't mention is that they got sniped by their own "side" as it were. Never thought the glowies would try to pull a color revolution on our own soil but that seems to be what they're going for now. Look up what happened to Ukraine a few years ago folks. Try to *not* see the similarities.

Is that bold part a threat or a wish on your part? Rhetorical question, I think I know, so don't answer. Remember you are on a public forum and whatever anonymity we think we have is an illusion that can easily be stripped away by those who have the power to do so.

Beyond that there are no secrets in the collective unconsciousness. What is hidden will be revealed, not always on a personal level or in a way that we expect. That is what we are witnessing now from the masses, no matter their affiliations. It is no coincidence that this is occurring during a pandemic. Whether you are a White supremacist, Boogaloo Boy, Antifa or Anarchist you will eventually be exposed. Which are you? I do not identify with any of those groups.

My soul is in it's final cycle so I am just planting seeds. The dance will be over for me before there is any real, lasting, resolution to any of these issues so I will not comment on your politics or religion other than to say I do not believe you know which gods you truly serve with these kind of posts. I do not require your "teaching moments" but thanks anyway.

As for my response to K4M, I was just correcting him and we all know how much he dislikes being corrected.

[Vex]

Not only is he having tear gassing protesters and deploying the national guard on them, but he also gassed priests at a church, who were being completely peaceful and giving out snacks and drinks. All so he could pose with a backwards bible, as if it were a prop.



I'm not religious but this still sickens me. People who used to follow him are calling him the Antichrist.

Trump and his whole run, the way he's handled everything, his policies, the way he's treated people, how he treats his followings and how people have reacted to him. It's somewhat a good example of politics "falling apart to fall back together again" or "going full circle", so to speak.

[Adam Strange]

Not only is he having tear gassing protesters and deploying the national guard on them, but he also gassed priests at a church, who were being completely peaceful and giving out snacks and drinks. All so he could pose with a backwards bible, as if it were a prop.



I'm not religious but this still sickens me. People who used to follow him are calling him the Antichrist.

Trump and his whole run, the way he's handled everything, his policies, the way he's treated people, how he treats his followings and how people have reacted to him. It's somewhat a good example of politics "falling apart to fall back together again" or "going full circle", so to speak.

America really started its decline in the world with George Bush. I thought he was the worst, but Trump regularly tops him for narcissistic stupidity, lies, and manipulative self-interest.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/_AkEvgj60n...0/db080720.gif

Here's the thing, though. People knew who they were voting for. They knew what they were getting. They voted for Bush and for Trump BECAUSE they hate liberal democracies.

Think about that. Those people are Trump's 43% unwavering base. They are not swayed by his massive incompetence. They like the fact that he punishes people. Well, they themselves think that punishing others is Right. They are the same people who support all Authoritarian dictators everywhere.

I can't tell you how much I wish these people could be given their own continent. Free land, free travel to there. But no one gets out.
They will tell you that if that happened, they would rise up in their righteous anger and come back and kill us all. In reality, their experiment would follow the same course as Nazi Germany or Trump's cabinet.

"They came first for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up."

Because no one is perfect enough for these people. On their little continent, they will kill each other and will descend into abject poverty. Because that's what they do.

[SGF]

As long as you guys stop bombing the Middle-East so we don't have to continue building hospitals in Syria or keep the border wall up for the refugees to stay out.. e_e but I bet that won't happen regardless who the president is, because that position ultimately doesn't fucking matter to anyone who understands the nature of power and global geopolitics. @Adam Strange the way you see things is kinda naive for a type 8 ENTJ. Obama was the same shit: https://youtu.be/bB-vYuYhdSE and they did end up bombing Syria. Iran is next. This shit will never end, left wing, right wing, liberals, democracy is hypocrisy.

[Adam Strange]

As long as you guys stop bombing the Middle-East so we don't have to continue building hospitals in Syria or keep the border wall up for the refugees to stay out.. e_e but I bet that won't happen regardless who the president is, because that position ultimately doesn't fucking matter to anyone who understands the nature of power and global geopolitics. @Adam Strange the way you see things is kinda naive for a type 8 ENTJ.

Is it naive, or.............SUPER-SOPHISTICATED?

The US will stop bombing the Middle-East when we don't need their oil any more. I give it about twenty more years, max. Then they can go back to fighting each other.

For the record, every SLI that I've ever met has told me that my decisions are flawed. This includes my ten-year-old SLI son telling me that all my decisions are BAD, while he was sitting in an S-class Mercedes, being driven by his father who started in the lower middle class and is now in the upper 2%. But you know, maybe he was right. One of my decisions was to have him, and that hasn't been working out the way I had hoped.

I've actually had people tell me that they can't understand how I can screw up all day long, every day, the way I do, and still come out on top of things.

They just can't understand it.

I don't think I need to add anything to that.

[Adam Strange]

America really started its decline in the world with George Bush. I thought he was the worst, but Trump regularly tops him for narcissistic stupidity, lies, and manipulative self-interest.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/_AkEvgj60n...0/db080720.gif

Here's the thing, though. People knew who they were voting for. They knew what they were getting. They voted for Bush and for Trump BECAUSE they hate liberal democracies.

Think about that. Those people are Trump's 43% unwavering base. They are not swayed by his massive incompetence. They like the fact that he punishes people. Well, they themselves think that punishing others is Right. They are the same people who support all Authoritarian dictators everywhere.

I can't tell you how much I wish these people could be given their own continent. Free land, free travel to there. But no one gets out.
They will tell you that if that happened, they would rise up in their righteous anger and come back and kill us all. In reality, their experiment would follow the same course as Nazi Germany or Trump's cabinet.

"They came first for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up."

Because no one is perfect enough for these people. On their little continent, they will kill each other and will descend into abject poverty. Because that's what they do.

I'm quoting myself because my post is really a continuation of this previous post.

Today I learned that Trump is finally building a wall. Around the White House.

Just as the guys in Nazi Germany kept redefining their enemies to include more and more people until they finally got to a handful of loyalists in a bunker in Berlin, so too is Trump trying to build a wall between himself and more and more people. First it was the Mexicans, then it was immigrants, then it was our European allies, and now it's the American people themselves.

This is the inevitable end point of this kind of thinking. Hiding in a basement bunker while the world outside is coming to get you. No one is "pure" enough for these people.

Schicklgruber and his wife took cyanide. Jim Jones and his follows drank the kool-aid laced with cyanide. Drumpf is self-dosing with Hydroxychloroquine. What do these guys have in common? They hate everyone else, but they hate themselves even more.

[SGF]

Not only is he having tear gassing protesters and deploying the national guard on them, but he also gassed priests at a church, who were being completely peaceful and giving out snacks and drinks. All so he could pose with a backwards bible, as if it were a prop.

I'm not religious but this still sickens me. People who used to follow him are calling him the Antichrist.

Trump and his whole run, the way he's handled everything, his policies, the way he's treated people, how he treats his followings and how people have reacted to him. It's somewhat a good example of politics "falling apart to fall back together again" or "going full circle", so to speak.

Trump doesn't really give a shit about religion. He was just playing the part to get them to vote. Typical politician, all show no substance.

[Vex]

Trump doesn't really give a shit about religion. He was just playing the part to get them to vote. Typical politician, all show no substance.

Yup, everything he's done during this campaign and presidency is for appearances. Everything he says is a lie, and what's odd is that a good portion of his followers know this as well. They simply want an excuse to hate others, and they see him as a symbol or beacon to mirror hate off of. He did personify their ideal 'Murrica, after all.

[Kill4Me]

lets see whether Dementia Joe the Creepy Molester is creepy stupid enough to select Kamala Poop for Brains Harris. Basically, Harris is a fake African-American from an affluent background who tries to use a jamaican bloodline in her ancestry to reinvent herself as the second coming of Rosa Parks...Poop for brains would be a real stupid VP selection after she threw Dementia Joe creepy molester under the bus in the early primaries for the democratic party (aka identity politic cesspool), painting a picture of dementia joe as having once upon a time been a racist...holy fuck that would make for one helluva vulnerability to exploit if they were ever running mates

[Kill4Me]

Dementia Joe the Creepy Molester Was Stupid Enough to pick Queen of the Bag Ladies Kamala "poop for brains" harris, and JUST LIKE I FUCKIN SAID, everybody relevant, including Trump, is already using her attacks on Biden as a racist against BIDEN and calling her a phony. As I said before, she is a "fake african-american from an affluent background who tries to use her jamaican bloodline to reinvent herself as the second coming of rosa parks." I called the candidate vulnerabilities on Poop for Brains Kamala before anybody. Dementia Joe really lost his marbles picking this bag lady. Though her attacks on biden as a racist failed to convince anybody (as I had said it wouldn't when I predicted that Biden would win the nomination; everybody discounted it after New Hampshire), it shows how bad his dementia is that he picked a political adversary as his running mate. What a fckin' dummy

lets see whether Dementia Joe the Creepy Molester is creepy stupid enough to select Kamala Poop for Brains Harris. Basically, Harris is a fake African-American from an affluent background who tries to use a jamaican bloodline in her ancestry to reinvent herself as the second coming of Rosa Parks...Poop for brains would be a real stupid VP selection after she threw Dementia Joe creepy molester under the bus in the early primaries for the democratic party (aka identity politic cesspool), painting a picture of dementia joe as having once upon a time been a racist...holy fuck that would make for one helluva vulnerability to exploit if they were ever running mates

CALLED THE VULNERABILITIES ON KAMALA BEFORE ANYBODY.

She's a real stumbling mess too if you ever see her talk. If you took a Bag Lady off the street, dressed her in some fancy chanel, gave her a makeover and day at the beauty salon, then put her in the US Senate you would get Kamala Poop for Brains Harris.

[xerx]

Dementia Joe

'Sloppy Joe' is more clever. You could use it to segue into a joke about how Trump is going to eat him because he's a pussy.

[xerx]

[Kill4Me]

the big problem for dementia joe the creepy molester and kamala poop for brains harris aka queen of the bag ladies that the democratic party aka identity politic cesspool perpetually has is NO VISION. Dementia Joe and Kamala Harris have zero vision. They're just run of the meal piecemeal shit-kickers. Trump at least has a vision for lessening our economic dependence on China, bringing manufacturing jobs back into the country and overall America for America. He's also got the Wall. Biden and Harris are two shitkickers. They have no vision whatsoever. They're just a couple of pandering pinheads...that's it though. Biden obviously picked Harris because he's such a formulaic Te/Si, 'oh blacks are in an uproar' i'd better pick a so-called "black" candidate so I can tap into the energy of the BLM jobless bums "revolution", have nothing better to do than scapegoat the entire institution of law enforcement and White America for George Floyd's death and even black-on-black crime

I drove through half the country this past week. let me say this, there's no biden-harris signs anywhere along the long stretch of highway but a lot of trump-pence signs.

[SGF]

the big problem for dementia joe the creepy molester and kamala poop for brains harris aka queen of the bag ladies that the democratic party aka identity politic cesspool perpetually has is NO VISION. Dementia Joe and Kamala Harris have zero vision. They're just run of the meal piecemeal shit-kickers. Trump at least has a vision for lessening our economic dependence on China, bringing manufacturing jobs back into the country and overall America for America. He's also got the Wall. Biden and Harris are two shitkickers. They have no vision whatsoever. They're just a couple of pandering pinheads...that's it though. Biden obviously picked Harris because he's such a formulaic Te/Si, 'oh blacks are in an uproar' i'd better pick a so-called "black" candidate so I can tap into the energy of the BLM jobless bums "revolution", have nothing better to do than scapegoat the entire institution of law enforcement and White America for George Floyd's death and even black-on-black crime

I drove through half the country this past week. let me say this, there's no biden-harris signs anywhere along the long stretch of highway but a lot of trump-pence signs.

after 4 years of this obviously libshit corporate puppet with half his family married into the fold, no wall and this: the United States admitted a total of 1.18 million legal immigrants (618k new arrivals, 565k status adjustments) in 2016. ... Since then, the number of first-generation immigrants living in the United States has quadrupled.

you'd still vote for the fucker? I guess there is o real choice, but the mindset itself makes me question just what kind of "extremist" you really are. e_e sounded like a basic bitch republican.

word on the interwebz is that the DNC was Alpha quadra production level cringe-worthy funny shit.

[Socionics Is A Cult]

[ragnar]

http://time.com/4574732/donald-trump...slim-registry/

I think we can be sure various agencies concerned with public security already have registries that in practice can serve the purpose of a list of muslims, both in America and in Europe.

Actually, I'm pretty sure even local police in many places can easily get a list of local people who have engaged in "suspicious activity" such as visiting Mecca, made phonecalls to the "wrong" people, bought jihadi literature, visited mosques, bought halal meat and what not. In a digital age, anyone who has authority to get data from commercial and gov't databases can hardly help collecting data that essentially constitute registries like that, even though their databases are not formally designated as such registries.

[Exodus]

I think we can be sure various agencies concerned with public security already have registries that in practice can serve the purpose of a list of muslims, both in America and in Europe.

Actually, I'm pretty sure even local police in many places can easily get a list of local people who have engaged in "suspicious activity" such as visiting Mecca, made phonecalls to the "wrong" people, bought jihadi literature, visited mosques, bought halal meat and what not. In a digital age, anyone who has authority to get data from commercial and gov't databases can hardly help collecting data that essentially constitute registries like that, even though their databases are not formally designated as such registries.

Historically the US has had these things called "warrants", where a government agency has to demonstrate that there is probable cause to believe that someone is committing a crime before they demand this kind of information.

More recently the NSA has been doing mass collection of data, without warrants, with the help of companies like Google and Facebook. Supposedly this is against the law but that doesn't seem to stop them.

[wacey]

Its interesting and revealing to see people react along socionic lines towards Trump. I see people in my life who almost at a gut level fail to comprehend him and his personality. They react with dumbfounded disbelief "how could he do THAT??" And other such confused platitudes. No one seems to estimate him for what he should be reckoned for. Its not about rationality as End has pointed out. It's about I'm Ceasar and this is my Rome and the people love me and how I say reality is will be how it becomes, Senate be damned. It's about I'm powerful and if you want a piece of this power pie your better hitch a ride and hold on and remember who got you here. ....2500 counties got you here.

You got to hand it to him, like I said over a year ago on this forum watch out because that guy is going to be the President. Everything single thing he did was perfect... from leaving his HRC debates seconds after they finished with his trophy wife in tow into their caught on camera luxury $50,000 Black Escalades, to standing behind Hillary in a dominating position during the town hall debate. It was a race between Mommy and Daddy and America wanted Daddy. That's why older males voted this election. What did America think that after a decade of Middle Eastern wars their countries psyche wasnt going to be a little messed up? The guy might be a sociopathic narcissist, but he is still a political genius, and he did what he did with such obvious contrived posturing that came out looking more authentic in its audaciousness then any thing else ever could. I may not agree with him, but I applaud what he just did, from a human tribal stand point, becoming the big chief, in any circumstance, takes a hell of a lot of nerve to get to this place.

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You got to hand it to him, like I said over a year ago on this forum watch out because that guy is going to be the President. Everything single thing he did was perfect... from leaving his HRC debates seconds after they finished with his trophy wife in tow into their caught on camera luxury $50,000 Black Escalades, to standing behind Hillary in a dominating position during the town hall debate. It was a race between Mommy and Daddy and America wanted Daddy. That's why older males voted this election. What did America think that after a decade of Middle Eastern wars their countries psyche wasnt going to be a little messed up? The guy might be a sociopathic narcissist, but he is still a political genius, and he did what he did with such obvious contrived posturing that came out looking more authentic in its audaciousness then any thing else ever could. I may not agree with him, but I applaud what he just did, from a human tribal stand point, becoming the big chief, in any circumstance, takes a hell of a lot of nerve to get to this place.

Scott Adams also pointed that out. We're OK with Mommy running the house when things are going peachy, but in times of hardship we all know that "Daddy" knows best. You are correct, these are troubled times and he fulfilled the roll of "daddy" so it's no wonder he got a boost from that. You're also right in how much chutzpah it takes to do what he did, fitting too, given how closely he and his family are intertwined with the ethnic group that invented the term. A term no other group has BTW. It's like Schadenfreude for the Germans. Only a certain type of people would think so much about a given concept that they'd invent a word for it . I'd like to claim us rednecks had something like that but it escapes my mind. If there's a single word for "absolute defiance" in any language I'd like to hear about it, for I think I'd rather like the ethos behind the people who came up with it.

Also @Adam Strange, fear is one of the most powerful motivators out there, and racism is actually a natural thing. I don't like that it is but nobody wins a game by denying reality and adopting strategies that essentially amount to putting ideals before facts. Plenty of people put ideals before facts, they're mostly dead now. If not dead, well, they certainly lost the war. Ask the Native Americans how believing we're all one with the great spirit or somesuch worked out for em'.

I'd also question how one defines "productivity". If all we're talking about is money then I'll agree with you completely and concede the point. I am damn sure not going to underestimate the global financiers and their ability to separate fools from their money in even the flimsiest of circumstances. However, if we were to count "physical" productivity of those sectors, well, I'd bet they don't actually produce much in the end. Fuck the "GDP" as it were. How many auto parts did they crank out? Bushels of Grain? Acres of veggies? Barrels of Oil? Tons of any Ore ya might care to name? You... get my point I pray. Cash doesn't equal "real" productivity in the end no matter how much our rulers want us to believe that bullshit. Any scammer can make trillions in a day if they get lucky enough, but you can't just scam a billion tons of Iron Ore into existence as if by magic. Just putting that out there... There are makers and there are takers. If the takers just so happen to make a killing it doesn't change the fact that they are takers and thus parasites. If they kill off the host, well, that's curtains for them and they couldn't deserve it more. Smart parasites don't kill the host in a storm of short-sighted avarice. Sadly, I fear the current crop that rules over us is just that short sighted.

They'll die, me and mine will live, but I will not be all that happy about it. Winning by default is... boring. It's like when you "win" in "grand strategy" video games (e.g. Civilization or Stellaris). Once you hit a certain point on the map/in the game everyone and their grandparents get that you've won hands down period, but the computer just won't admit it and cough up the achievement unless you mindlessly grind it out for a few more hours. Boring.

The only silver lining of it all is that I'll survive it. I got my crop rotation down, I got my tools, connections within my community, canning skills, etc. They got... financial chicanery. Yeah, I win in the end but, again, I'm not feeling all that good about it. You'd think I'd be jumping for joy at the prospect of the coming doom and how it takes out the SJW pussies but... All I feel is nothing. The rural population survives, the urbanites eat each other. The cycle never changes... and I am so weary of the slaughter either by swift bullets exploding skulls or by slow starvation and prolonged suffering of the out groups...

[Adam Strange]

It is important to remember that Trump lost the general election by 2.5 million votes.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/21/politi...e-final-count/

He was basically elected by gerrymandering and by appealing to racism and fear, something that still works for about half the population, because critical thinking is not encouraged by either party, and racism is still a very real thing in many places.
http://www.vox.com/2017/1/18/1429612...orhood-cartoon

It is also important to remember that the economically productive counties in the US overwhelmingly voted for Hillary.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...this-election/

And even though Trump won the election, he is an amazingly unpopular president.
http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politi...rump-unpopular

Trump certainly doesn't have a mandate to run the country, and most people are not deluded about his character.

[Singu]

I don't support Trump, but neither do I support the "establishment" and basically all the mainstream US media. There is all sorts of corruption and nonsense and the economy is in shambles and Trump somehow senses this intuitively from his experience as a businessman. The politics is in the hands of Wallstreet and neo-cons and military-industrial complex. We all know that the US is basically fucked. Trump probably knows it too. I guess he wants to at least try to turn it all around.

[Adam Strange]

I don't support Trump, but neither do I support the "establishment" and basically all the mainstream US media. There is all sorts of corruption and nonsense and the economy is in shambles and Trump somehow senses this intuitively from his experience as a businessman. The politics is in the hands of Wallstreet and neo-cons and military-industrial complex. We all know that the US is basically fucked. Trump probably knows it too. I guess he wants to at least try to turn it all around.

I agree with all of your points about the economy and who is running it, but I think Trump will only make things worst. He promised to "drain the swamp", but immediately broke that promise when he appointed both billionaires and Washington insiders to his cabinet. He seems uninterested in intelligence briefings or in policy or in the rule of law. Remember his "You'd be in jail." comment to Hillary?

Many people voted for George Bush because he was the kind of guy they'd like to have a beer with. One of their own. What they got was a government of rich thieves who started two wars, deregulated the banks so they could steal faster and left America with the tab, and incompetent political appointees who gave us the response to Katrina.

When you elect people who hate the government, would you expect them to make government work better?

What most people who vote for these guys, whom they relate to and think will do right by them, fail to understand about them is that they don't want to have a beer with us.

[xerx]

I'm just amused at the amazing support for a vagina grabber by so many of the people whinging ZOMG Muslim refugee youth in Germany touching women's butts. EURABIA END OF WESTERN CIVILIZATION!!11!1!

Be that as may, I despise the United States and want to see it destroyed, and my only regret is that both candidates couldn't somehow win.

[mu4]

I despise the United States and want to see it destroyed

I think you may get a lot of destruction but the United States won't disappear, it will probably just get worse and more malignant until a bigger person with a bigger stick stomps it down like so many other societies, or after great internal conflict it rises anew.

Conflict and destruction is inevitable, and a lot of it will occur and a lot of people will be lost in great tragedy. And in time people will lament America for it's greatness and its loss and rebuilt it elsewhere. Individually we are caught in the ebbs and flows of our times and there are few choices we can make to determine the course of the world around us. Do you only want destruction for hundreds of millions of people?

[xerx]

I think you may get a lot of destruction but the United States won't disappear, it will probably just get worse and more malignant until a bigger person with a bigger stick stomps it down like so many other societies, or after great internal conflict it rises anew.

Conflict and destruction is inevitable, and a lot of it will occur and a lot of people will be lost in great tragedy. And in time people will lament America for it's greatness and its loss and rebuilt it elsewhere. Individually we are caught in the ebbs and flows of our times and there are few choices we can make to determine the course of the world around us. Do you only want destruction for hundreds of millions of people?

I was actually just being sarcastic to convey the sentiment of "why can't they both lose," but in a sardonic way that's slightly less cliché.

I'm not actually a genocidal weirdo. :~

OTOH, eff America for burning my own country to the ground. So I'd be lying if I'd said there wasn't a tiny bit of opinion limbo going on here.