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You didn't read the intro of my post which clearly quotes why our PM conversation ended terribly, as for your moral perspective as to whether I'm being a dick or not, is none of my concern. It doesn't compute, I have no malicious intention surrounding that, that's not how I think.

Now from a 3rd level thinking perspective, the issue at hand here is questioning what/how (perhaps why) Jung thought about what he conceptualise - that issue is important because it helps deal with the chaos of deviating interpretations about his ideas. If we simply focus on our individual interpretations of his ideas, we will merely waste time trying to force each other to see what we desire to see when there is no empirical system to falsify the numerous diverging interpretations various people seem to conceptualise.
I did read the thread and the point aint in the content but the presentation.

Yes! To understand Jung we need to look at Jung first and not only the ideas, where did they come from? From what perspective was they created? I do this in the scenario of him being IEI. Why is it important? If in this case he is Ni, which in the subjective whatever thingy he perceive the world of a machine of laws that play out and we get the reality as today. When he approach this he do it from trying to understand what the person he is (he was a terapeut of sort) terapeut to perceive the world, in order for him to understand the person. To take only visuals he was trying to understand what the person he was dealing with saw in this world, where the focus was.