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    Quote Originally Posted by mclane View Post
    This is all based on observation. This analysis was construed using Model B.

    Accepting subtype:

    *Energized base
    *Creative may be under-developed. Used ocasionally.
    *May be somewhat proficient at PoLR. Engages in it sometimes (especially in private).
    *Role may be under-developed. Due to emphasis on base, it is seldom used.
    *The need for DS is emphasized.
    *HA is naturally strong, but not as important for the user as in the other subtype.
    *Demonstrative is semi-valued.
    *Energized Observant, which is strong. However, infomation is not readily absorbed via it due to constant need of DS (and due to antithetical nature of DS and Observant).

    -Dynamics: Base and observant act together in a pack, constantly supplying DS. HA is used frequently to mobilize.
    -Development: Starts off with proficiency in Base, Observant, HA, and Demonstrative. Over time time learns DS, Role, Creative. Greatest potential at mastering DS.
    -Unhealth: User becomes fixated on their PoLR. Role might also "invade" the ego functions, replacing base. Demonstrative is also used inadequately.

    Producing subtype:

    *Base is “loose”, and may be not very proficient. Doesn’t possess the full skillset of the function.
    *Creative is energized, very important and used permanently.
    *PoLR is completely disregarded. Creative is used everytime in place of PoLR (the áreas that PoLR are supposed to cover, are covered by creative instead)
    *Role is emphasized and used permanently. The Creative-Role pathway dynamic of model A is strengthened.
    *Proficient at producing DS. Can go a long time without needing DS. Voices judgements in áreas pertaining to DS. Frequently these judgments are more accurate than the ones produced by others who have said function in the ego or demonstrative.
    *HA is not initially as strong as in the other subtype, but has much greater importance. It is energized and needs it more than DS.
    *Demonstrative is very strong and also energized. However, it is not valued at all (the focus is on creative+HA).
    *Observant may be like a second PoLR. However, due to not a great need of DS, information is readily accepted.

    -Dynamics: Creative, Role, HA and Demonstrative are used in a team, to further satiating the need of HA.
    -Development: Starts off with a very strong demonstrative and creative. Over time learns HA, Role. Has the highest potential for HA mastery. The remaining functions don’t vary by a whole lot.
    -Unhealth: User becomes fixated on their HA in detriment of all other functions.

    Overall the accepting subtype is a more stable type. Producing subtypes have more pronounced weaknesses.
    I agree with many of your points/findings.

    Here are some of the revisions I'd do:

    Accepting subtype:

    *May be somewhat proficient at PoLR if strong subtype. Engages in it once in a while if it is conducive to a goal connected to a valued information element. PoLR is "shielded", meaning less vulnerable.
    *Demonstrative can be on/off and more fickle.

    -Dynamics: Base and HA [I have found the "Observant" is actually more regulated and restricted by this subtype, in favour of the Base] act together in a pack, attempting to compensate for the lack of DS supply and/or proficiency. HA is used frequently to mobilize, potentially to unnecessarily frequent amounts depending on the strength of the subtype.
    -Development: Starts off with proficiency in Base, Observant, HA, and Demonstrative. Over time attempts to learn DS, Role,and possibly expand the Creative. Greatest potential at mastering HA [there is no way that someone with a "boosted" Base is going to reach the greatest mastery at their DS, the two aspects cancel each other out – you are either great at the former or the latter].


    Producing subtype:

    *Feels more or less proficient at understanding and receiving DS from the outside on their own. Can go a long time without needing DS. Voices judgements in areas pertaining to DS. Frequently questions or challenges the judgments of the ones produced by others who have said function in the ego or demonstrative.

    -Development: Starts off with a strong demonstrative and creative. Over time learns HA, Role. Has the highest potential for DS self-supply or self-sustenance. The remaining functions don’t vary by a whole lot.

    Overall the accepting subtype is a more unbalanced type, strongly lacking in their DS and being very slightly better at their PoLR which they do not even value. Producing subtypes are more "ambiverted" and self-sustaining (=not necessarily needing their DS from someone else), therefore better adapted to different circumstances or situations, and often more "internally whole" (because of "boosted" DS etc).
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    If you stop putting a value judgment about who is more stable, it might help people accept something like this
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chillaxe View Post
    If you stop putting a value judgment about who is more stable, it might help people accept something like this
    Accepting subtypes are more "stable" for the simple reason that they are not "missing" anything in their makeup. They can still use PoLR. Producing types can't use PoLR at all. No value judgment was present, merely functional (but perhaps the term lent itself for misunderstanding-- maybe "inclusive" would be a better term? Accepting subtype is more inclusive, while producing subtype is more exclusive.)

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    Yeah I would think the term lent it's self to be mistaken for a value judgment. I would imagine that people would all want ot be the "good one". I like that you tried to find a new term .... but I would have to ask if you could elaborate on what more "inclusive" and more "exclusive" meant. Just interested in the theory.

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