EIE/LSI Duality Thread (ISTj and ENFj)

[SpreeFirit]

I think I understand the intensity thing but not entirely when applied to non-serious insults. I'd have to see your examples in action, the tone/expression etc. I've been wondering before tho' if my running coach is LSI, he's a bit like this. Intense poking that makes me have extra readiness to respond but it doesn't seem like an actual insult in the wrong way. So the readiness I get isn't hostile, either.

Eh though, I wouldn't do what your friend's LSI father does, I can't imagine what kind of environment it would be where I'd be like that. But then you say he has duals around in his family, maybe to do with that... Dunno, as I said, my two friends I mentioned don't try to approach me in this way for god knows exactly what reason.

And don't worry, it wasn't too retarded. Just about not.




That one sounds impossible enough to not be real. That is, I wouldn't think it's meant seriously.




Reminds me of coach again if I imagine this "picking at" kind of firmness right.




Oh that makes sense, yeah, about the control thing especially. I don't really think I know how to do that while keeping it really just funny and not get misunderstood, tho', let alone put myself in the right mood for it on my own. Maybe I spent too much time around Ne/Si types. Also, I have other ways to release tension.

Ahhhhh! Your very last sentence...
Bad ass mutha fuckaaaa

Lol so, you spend time around a lot of Ne/Si users? Like which types specifically? Do you really think that has altered your personality in any way?

[Myst]

Ahhhhh! Your very last sentence...
Bad ass mutha fuckaaaa

Lol so, you spend time around a lot of Ne/Si users? Like which types specifically? Do you really think that has altered your personality in any way?

I spent too much time around them in a group yeah. Some Ne egos. No, I wasn't trying to say it altered my personality.

[SpreeFirit]

I spent too much time around them in a group yeah. Some Ne egos. No, I wasn't trying to say it altered my personality.

Interesting. However, I can't help but notice you said you spent "too much time around them." So, why do you say that? Do you just mean they annoyed you somehow?

[Myst]

Interesting. However, I can't help but notice you said you spent "too much time around them." So, why do you say that? Do you just mean they annoyed you somehow?

The feeling of annoyance would be mutual, I think.

Actually, I get along decently well with some of them (and then not with others) but in terms of humour, definitely no shared taste, which is what the topic was here.

Let me know if that's clear or if you got any more questions

[SpreeFirit]

The feeling of annoyance would be mutual, I think.

Actually, I get along decently well with some of them (and then not with others) but in terms of humour, definitely no shared taste, which is what the topic was here.

Let me know if that's clear or if you got any more questions

Oh, that's definitely clear. But I most certainly always have more questions for you..

Yeah, I spend most of my time around betas and gammas. I naturally gravitate toward them.
My brother is IEI and has primarily alpha SF friends. The dynamic change is so drastic. The topic of conversation and overall mood of the room is different.
Let's just continue our PM so we don't continue to derail this thread! I'm not an ENFP you know!!

[The Reality Denialist]

Oh, that's definitely clear. But I most certainly always have more questions for you..

Yeah, I spend most of my time around betas and gammas. I naturally gravitate toward them.
My brother is IEI and has primarily alpha SF friends. The dynamic change is so drastic. The topic of conversation and overall mood of the room is different.
Let's just continue our PM so we don't continue to derail this thread! I'm not an ENFP you know!!

Room consisting of alphas and betas.
There's LSI, SLE, IEI, ESE and me.

Betas go and express themselves ESE is there uncomfortably trying to part of something and take part. I don't know whether betas ever notice it.

[SpreeFirit]

Room consisting of alphas and betas.
There's LSI, SLE, IEI, ESE and me.

Betas go and express themselves ESE is there uncomfortably trying to part of something and take part. I don't know whether betas ever notice it.

We notice.

[EUDAEMONIUM]

This thread is making me think betas belong in the garbage

[EUDAEMONIUM]

Seriously though can an EIE or LSI describe a normal relationship that is relatable to normal human beings?

[Deductive Logic]

Seriously though can an EIE or LSI describe a normal relationship that is relatable to normal human beings?

Most EIE-LSI relationships are pretty normal. Sure, there's the undercurrent of possessiveness from both parties, but it's never usually so bad that it's problematic.

Take an LSI, just doing their thing. Filling their knowledge banks with information that could or could not be useful, absolutely enjoying spreadsheets or building things or just existing as they watch their favorite show or play their game. They like to tease other people by purposely saying things that are probably not socially appropriate just for the fun of the reaction. Suddenly....an EIE appears, and somehow, passion slowly enters the equation. LSI might say something completely inappropriate while the EIE hurriedly makes apologies as they try their best not to laugh and give the game away. EIE passionately rambles about the future or starts planning and LSI listens in a kind of quiet awe (or starts constructive criticism, which usually helps the EIE improve their vision to their relief).

LSIs are always the best people to go to for a crisis. For instance:

EIE: "OMG LSI I think my car is making weird noises. I think I messed it up somehow and it's been like two weeks and I'm not entirely sure WHAT I did. Help????"
LSI: "Okay, check the dash for this light, do you see it?"
EIE: "Yeah, I see it. What do I do? PLEASE tell me my car isn't going to explode or something, because could you imagine how much insurance I'd have to pay? (insert other rambling here) "
LSI: "Calm down. Okay, we can fix it like this. Go to the dealership and tell them you want them to check on your car. They should be able to see the problem and fix it there. You might have to pay them though."
EIE: "Oh, that's fine, I'd just rather not get blown up. So do I do that now?"
LSI: "Yeah."
EIE: "You're the best, you know that?"
(transcribed from a real conversation between me and my LSI best friend)

LSIs have a gift for simplifying things into easy concepts, to the point where my best friend literally has a catchphrase ("so do") when I whinge about stuff too much. LSIs are steady and constant, and EIEs are forward planning and emotionally hyperaware. That's what a normal EIE/LSI relationship is tbh.