The energy model. (Model G)

[Tigerfadder]

If there is a psychic energy, how can information contain this energy? I think psychic energy corresponds to a general attitude towards certain information, which seems to be very similar to function strength and/or "valued" function (or mental vs. vital) in my view.

It might be as such that energy -> produce -> information which is no longer just data.
So when people make sense of the world and later communicate the result of that "making sense of" energy have been spend in the mental process. It might correlate with being "bored" or "tired" reading heavy books, mentally. Also that some find some topics interesting while others get mentally drained and "bored" when researching the same things.

[Petter]

It might be as such that energy -> produce -> information which is no longer just data.
So when people make sense of the world and later communicate the result of that "making sense of" energy have been spend in the mental process. It might correlate with being "bored" or "tired" reading heavy books, mentally.

I apologize for a delayed response.

I agree with you that processing (or producing) information takes energy, but I still don't see how data/information can contain energy.

Also that some find some topics interesting while others get mentally drained and "bored" when researching the same things.

Isn't this just the same thing as preference/functions strength?

[Tigerfadder]

I apologize for a delayed response.

I agree with you that processing (or producing) information takes energy, but I still don't see how data/information can contain energy.

Im not sure it suppose to "contain energy".

We begin with general considerations. We estimate the value of poles dichotomy "energy / information" in the modern world.

In the information society especially valuable resource advocates energy. Information becomes excessive, accumulated a lot of information "garbage." A lot of extra energy spent on it to find the desired information. In addition, the more complex technical device or the more developed the economy, the higher their dependence on energy sources. Energy deficit requires expensive equipment to develop its economy. Not far off the crisis of food and drinking water, not to mention the depletion of oil and gas reserves.

Impact of the word as a carrier of information to a person or group of people is ineffective, if not produce energy training, that is to excite or interest the person (translate to a higher energy level). Practicing psychologists, PR-specialists and political scientists have long realized this. Energy psyche begins to bring to the fore.

NB! The brain consumes about half of the energy delivered to the body with food.

Creative people are capable of generating new information, if they are not energetic or if they do not support controlling energy sponsors, in most cases, remain out of work, are in a trance. Remember the perennial question: "If you're so smart, why are you so poor?"

In any successful business share information - about 20-30%, the rest - energy, efforts to implement the application and promotion. Naked enthusiasm dries quickly, it is necessary to pump in a lot of energy to "the process has begun," and is not stalled in the future.

'll Conclude. The focus of modern socionics should stand modeling of energy and information processes as energy generates information - new order, valuable experience, proven knowledge. After all, knowledge (information arms) even the most trusted in themselves, without, worthless. And in order to begin to apply them, need energy. How to get it or save?

Building a model of an object as a chain sotsionicheskogo extroverted and introverted interleaving functions so far no one has tested experimentally. If you make such an assessment by energy costs, the unfavorable functioning sotsionicheskogo object in frequent changes of extra - and introverted states is obvious. Model with such operation would be "cool" and quickly "fails" like a car that goes all the time on a bumpy road. For this reason, I have developed another model of the psyche - the energy that is more than meets the criterion of optimal life in the material world.

Energy sotsionicheskogo object model does not negate the Model A, but complements it to a single model of energetic metabolism (EIM).

This article tell us that spending energy make us generate information. It seems that information itself contain no energy, it can be viewed as a information sting in a specific order, but creating or finding this information and fitting it and making sense of it does consume energy.

[Petter]

Im not sure it suppose to "contain energy".

I don't think so... that was mu4's suggestion.

This article tell us that spending energy make us generate information. It seems that information itself contain no energy, it can be viewed as a information sting in a specific order, but creating or finding this information and fitting it and making sense of it does consume energy.

I agree with all of this, but the question still remains: how do we distinguish between psychic energy and physical energy?

[Tigerfadder]

I agree with all of this, but the question still remains: how do we distinguish between psychic energy and physical energy?

Usually we do not need to distinguish in what kind of energy some objects state are at. Energy is just energy.

[Petter]

Usually we do not need to distinguish in what kind of energy some objects state are at. Energy is just energy.

Yes, but it is called psychic energy. Why?

[Tigerfadder]

Yes, but it is called psychic energy. Why?

So since we had this chat. Internals and Externals is probably opposite in introverted than in the diagram. What I find interesting also do not fully understand is the "control" element. It is suppose to be least energy but high in information. Like the lazy element which we use to take control over situations. While in Model A it is the ignoring. It is cool but is it like information can be "draged out" of the person or bought? Loved to hear your thoughts.