^ This isn't even new discoveries either, read the strati LSE-EII duality description for numerous examples of EII manipulative ethical program.
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...Stratiyevskaya
Further, there are also several other examples that describe the controlling aspects of the EII personality in regards to her mirror, the IEE.
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...Stratiyevskaya
[QUOTE=wacey;1149154]^ This isn't even new discoveries either, read the strati LSE-EII duality description for numerous examples of EII manipulative ethical program.
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...Stratiyevskaya
Further, there are also several other examples that describe the controlling aspects of the EII personality in regards to her mirror, the IEE.
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...Stratiyevskaya[/QUOTES]
Wacey I don't think that you have a clue as to why EII will have to manipulate. An LSE can want to get harmful with people and take revenge or whatever EII has to say things like "you should not act that way because of the circumstances that will result " it isn't to make LSE do things or for EII to come out looking like a queen bee it's to hold ethical regards to neighbors and people around us.
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Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
[QUOTE=Maritsa;1149541]sooooo....manipulation.Originally Posted by wacey
^ This isn't even new discoveries either, read the strati LSE-EII duality description for numerous examples of EII manipulative ethical program.
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...Stratiyevskaya
Further, there are also several other examples that describe the controlling aspects of the EII personality in regards to her mirror, the IEE.
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...Stratiyevskaya[/QUOTES]
Wacey I don't think that you have a clue as to why EII will have to manipulate. An LSE can want to get harmful with people and take revenge or whatever EII has to say things like "you should not act that way because of the circumstances that will result " it isn't to make LSE do things or for EII to come out looking like a queen bee it's to hold ethical regards to neighbors and people around us.
[QUOTE=Maritsa;1149541]lol have you had to do this in your current relationship?^ This isn't even new discoveries either, read the strati LSE-EII duality description for numerous examples of EII manipulative ethical program.
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...Stratiyevskaya
Further, there are also several other examples that describe the controlling aspects of the EII personality in regards to her mirror, the IEE.
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...Stratiyevskaya[/QUOTES]
Wacey I don't think that you have a clue as to why EII will have to manipulate. An LSE can want to get harmful with people and take revenge or whatever EII has to say things like "you should not act that way because of the circumstances that will result " it isn't to make LSE do things or for EII to come out looking like a queen bee it's to hold ethical regards to neighbors and people around us.
[QUOTE=rougerogue;1149557]no not yet
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
[QUOTE=Maritsa;1149541]^ This isn't even new discoveries either, read the strati LSE-EII duality description for numerous examples of EII manipulative ethical program.
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...Stratiyevskaya
Further, there are also several other examples that describe the controlling aspects of the EII personality in regards to her mirror, the IEE.
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...Stratiyevskaya[/QUOTES]
Wacey I don't think that you have a clue as to why EII will have to manipulate. An LSE can want to get harmful with people and take revenge or whatever EII has to say things like "you should not act that way because of the circumstances that will result " it isn't to make LSE do things or for EII to come out looking like a queen bee it's to hold ethical regards to neighbors and people around us.
The LSE-EII duality profile describes manipulation in more likely scenarios than what you've described. Your example seems asinine compared to the more chief motivations behind EII manipulation. While you may want to shine a positive light on the type that you self-type, it would be more useful if you find and provide substantive information.
[QUOTE=rougerogue;1149559]Well, I'm not you and I look at people's actions and behaviors around me constantly. I just let people be so I'm sure I don't have "substantial information" that meets your needs.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Fair enough
With IEE, EII complains about them being interested in other and not paying attention to her. This is because IEE like new relations. But, me knowing every aspect of Ne and how it operates, I'm much more tolerant so I'm not going to complain to explain myself through arguments and nitpicking with IEE as to why they aren't more willing to stay at home and focus on the needs of the relationship as opposed to going to a concert with friends. That's very obvious. An EII who doesn't know Socionics is going to pick fights with IEE asking them why won't they stay at home, why would they have the need to go out with friends (me, I know why...because they need new impressions). Still it's not compatible even if the EII is pressuring IEE to be around them all the time.Fair enough
So through Fi base, ethics of relations, EII discovers Ne, intuition of external newness and gets hot and bothered lol Oh the discovery drives her insane because she can't understand why he won't stay at home and be an LSE who comes home and fixes things.
Last edited by Beautiful sky; 09-22-2016 at 05:59 AM.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I've seen EII nitpicking over issues of Te, even going so far as demanding the IEE be more like a Te person at work. For instance, expecting the IEE to figure out the best course of action.
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