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    The series continues. After the wardrobes of SEE and ILI, I assembled FiSe fashion for you to enjoy.

    Parameters:


    - conventional cuts that are neither very offbeat nor too eclecticist
    - subdued colors like blue and black
    - sober and collected, very deliberate
    - can be nostalgic, yet lacks in futuristic elements
    - classy
    - composure is important
    - counter-inventive, yet fresh
    - reserved, fabrics are often dark
    - chaos is not allowed, everything has its place.
    - jewelry can be intricate, but the rest of the outfit is kept simple
    - female designs can be `cute´, representing some degree of affection and it's so adorable
    - lots of business-inspired pieces, or at least clothes that indicate: "I'm a busy person and cannot be messed with"
    - ESI knows their worth but doesn't wear overly condescending outfits (especially when it comes to color)
    - clothes are worn to master the environment, but a professional appearance is also intended - a balance has to be found
    - can look like a detective, esp. the males. ESIs invented trenchcoat awesomeness.
    - patterns have to be consistent
    - no outlandish designs
    - emphasis on tradition, classics are preferred over new-fashioned pieces
    - aggressor textures like black leather are present
    - approachable and competent, doesn't offend blatantly at first glance (esp. Fi subtypes, Se subtypes may wear something more direct)
    - there's a certain coolness to the look
    - Generally seems trustworthy and reliable, but not submissive

    Link to the album: http://imgur.com/a/r50ej

    Found in collections of: JOOP, Bulgari, Hugo Boss, Nike, Omega, Gucci, Lanvin, Azbro, Burberry, French Connection, H&M, House of Adam, Ian RN, Dell' oglio, Chanel, Gaultier, Balmain, LWren Scott, Fossil, ZARA, Victoria Beckham, T Babaton, Swarowsi, Ralph&Russo, T2 DYT, Shop Holden, Tom Ford, Zalando, Zaful, Tory Burch, YSL, Ralph Lauren, PU, People Tree, Quay Australia, SheIn, Prada, Perlin Shop, Shoe Cult, Michael Kors, Manolo Blahnik, Replay, Pepe Jeans

    The LIE post is already under construction

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    Interesting. I like a lot of the stuff there. You have a good eye.

    I'd have thought that female ESI's would wear something more colorful, especially the Se-subtype, but maybe not.

    I agree (from my very limited experience) that ESI's dress tends to be simple and classic and well-put-together. You know, SLI's do this seemingly effortlessly, too. I wonder if this is part of my unconscious dual-seeking? When my SLI ex invited me to her apt for the first time, everything was neat and tasteful. But when I saw that she had genuine vintage Stiffel lamps and her shower curtain had a simple open pattern of blue and grey willows on a coarse-weave white cloth, that flipped a switch from Maybe to Very Likely. Strange, what things affect us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    Interesting. I like a lot of the stuff there. You have a good eye.

    I'd have thought that female ESI's would wear something more colorful, especially the Se-subtype, but maybe not.

    I agree (from my very limited experience) that ESI's dress tends to be simple and classic and well-put-together. You know, SLI's do this seemingly effortlessly, too. I wonder if this is part of my unconscious dual-seeking? When my SLI ex invited me to her apt for the first time, everything was neat and tasteful. But when I saw that she had genuine vintage Stiffel lamps and her shower curtain had a simple open pattern of blue and grey willows on a coarse-weave white cloth, that flipped a switch from Maybe to Very Likely. Strange, what things affect us.
    Thank you, and hm... true, my examples display the demonstrative a bit more. I forgot but that's not surprising :') You're more sensitive to ethics so thanks for the reminder Adam

    And you have a point there, it's the same for me with extremely showy interiors. And people with a generally `glamorous´ style. So, what others label as attention-seeking ("Senpai notice me") is my awakening of interest, so to say. If Se dominants wouldn't stand out as much clothing-wise, I'd... never spot them, actually. Consequently, it's either Very Likely or just Nope on my scale. Strange indeed that we are born to be a complementary part, and how it plays out in fashion. Yet another reason why Socionics are so insightful.

    Your detailed descriptions, though. Oooh my god

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    Finally!

    The gallery seems geared towards female clothing but I agree with quite a few of your points. Subdued colors is spot on. Black, navy blue and ~65% grey are my favorite colors to work with. I shudder at the thought of wearing pastel colors from the waist down.

    You mentioned a similarity between the gamma introvert's dressing style and while the
    color palette is similar the overall more formal/sharper style of ESI as opposed to the more casual style of ILI does indeed set them apart, and I think this matches the Ij vs Ip temperament quite well. For me, at least appearing formal is something I find very important. At work, developers don't even have to attend in formal wear (developers often don't) and yet since before I even joined this site I have worn formal shirts/trousers with a sharp yet light black fleece jacket to work religiously. I'm often reminded at work that Friday is a dress down day because of this

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    @Resonare, I got you covered. Tell me what you think!

    (At work: Prada, Hugo Boss, Ted Baker, TQM, Manolo Costa, Jil Sander, H&M, Bottega Veneta, Armani, Memo, Tommy Hilfiger, Nordstrom. Leisure: EDC, Dior Homme, Tattee, LE3NO, DSW, Wellenstein, River Island, Doublju, Jil Sander, 5cm, Burberry, Loluxe, Herschel)

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    Business first:




















    (a hat.. because why not)










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    Leisure:
















    And for extra cold days, this one (Jesus take the wheel):















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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    @Resonare, I got you covered. Tell me what you think!

    (At work: Prada, Hugo Boss, Ted Baker, TQM, Manolo Costa, Jil Sander, H&M, Bottega Veneta, Armani, Memo, Tommy Hilfiger, Nordstrom. Leisure: EDC, Dior Homme, Tattee, LE3NO, DSW, Wellenstein, River Island, Doublju, Jil Sander, 5cm, Burberry, Loluxe, Herschel)

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    Business first:




















    (a hat.. because why not)










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    Leisure:
















    And for extra cold days, this one (Jesus take the wheel):















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    Quote Originally Posted by Resonare View Post
    Subdued colors is spot on. Black, navy blue and ~65% grey are my favorite colors to work with. I shudder at the thought of wearing pastel colors from the waist down.

    You mentioned a similarity between the gamma introvert's dressing style and while the
    color palette is similar the overall more formal/sharper style of ESI as opposed to the more casual style of ILI does indeed set them apart, and I think this matches the Ij vs Ip temperament quite well. For me, at least appearing formal is something I find very important. At work, developers don't even have to attend in formal wear (developers often don't) and yet since before I even joined this site I have worn formal shirts/trousers with a sharp yet light black fleece jacket to work religiously. I'm often reminded at work that Friday is a dress down day because of this
    Pastel trousers are more of a Delta and Beta NF territory, I think. Yes, ILI = streetwear, ESI = office wear. What's your Saturday/Sunday wear, then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resonare View Post
    Finally!

    The gallery seems geared towards female clothing but I agree with quite a few of your points. Subdued colors is spot on. Black, navy blue and ~65% grey are my favorite colors to work with. I shudder at the thought of wearing pastel colors from the waist down.

    You mentioned a similarity between the gamma introvert's dressing style and while the
    color palette is similar the overall more formal/sharper style of ESI as opposed to the more casual style of ILI does indeed set them apart, and I think this matches the Ij vs Ip temperament quite well. For me, at least appearing formal is something I find very important. At work, developers don't even have to attend in formal wear (developers often don't) and yet since before I even joined this site I have worn formal shirts/trousers with a sharp yet light black fleece jacket to work religiously. I'm often reminded at work that Friday is a dress down day because of this
    This thread is really interesting to me. I had never realized that ILI's and ESI's might dress similarly. In dark colors, that is. My ideas of the way female ESI's dress have been informed by a couple of females in YouTube videos, from which these two pictures were taken:
    http://i.imgur.com/UmzbWOB.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/cwSjvXJ.jpg
    Both of the MBTI ISFP's are wearing bright colors, while the MBTI INTJ in one pic is wearing shades of gray.
    On the other hand, I've gone back and looked at some pics of ESI's I have from real life, and they often are wearing dark colors.
    I wonder if the Ni-subtypes dress in dark shades, and the Se-subtypes dress more brightly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    I think eminem is ESI, but I would kill for that jacket.
    Attachment 8291
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    I've always associated darker colors with Gamma introverts and brighter colors with Gamma extroverts. I think because women generally try to appear more approachable than men they edge toward brighter colors.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    Pastel trousers are more of a Delta and Beta NF territory, I think. Yes, ILI = streetwear, ESI = office wear. What's your Saturday/Sunday wear, then?
    Black or navy blue chinos (beige at one point but I didn't buy them), marine blue jeans and dark shades of formal trousers whenever I can get away with wearing them. I don't really invest a lot in clothing tbh so I'm probably not a good sample to go off of.

    My LSE friend was obsessed with men's handbags for a while but I've never really liked them. Those coats are pretty spot on though, and this one is more or less identical to the one I used to wear in high school. Another person who I think was ESI used to wear a dark blue one but then again quite a few people used to wear them in my school so it was probably just a trend.

    Btw, are you going to make this type of thread for all of the types?

    Quote Originally Posted by goldenbane View Post
    Pastel trousers?
    Pastel colored trousers, e.g.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    This thread is really interesting to me. I had never realized that ILI's and ESI's might dress similarly. In dark colors, that is. My ideas of the way female ESI's dress have been informed by a couple of females in YouTube videos, from which these two pictures were taken:
    http://i.imgur.com/UmzbWOB.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/cwSjvXJ.jpg
    Both of the MBTI ISFP's are wearing bright colors, while the MBTI INTJ in one pic is wearing shades of gray.
    On the other hand, I've gone back and looked at some pics of ESI's I have from real life, and they often are wearing dark colors.
    I wonder if the Ni-subtypes dress in dark shades, and the Se-subtypes dress more brightly?
    I don't wear a lot of black because I don't like its look with my hair, but I own about a million gray things; as well as beige, dark greens and brown. It seems to me that introverts in general tend to wear more understated clothing. ESE and EIE males I've noticed tend to wear like the most flashy, obvious clothing in rainbows of colors and pastels and etc. It makes me wince.

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    I should add, by way of explaining that LIE's are not confident in their aesthetic taste, that when my SLI ex moved into the house I had bought and had furnished, she threw all the furniture out on the front lawn and bought new. And I thought it was a big improvement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    I should add, by way of explaining that LIE's are not confident in their aesthetic taste, that when my SLI ex moved into the house I had bought and had furnished, she threw all the furniture out on the front lawn and bought new. And I thought it was a big improvement.
    Yeah, my ex husband set up and decorated our entire house. And he was a salt of the earth, boonies, jock type. It was a relief that I wasn't expected to do it.

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    My aunt I believe is an ESI. She dresses a lot like this, very classy and well put together.

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    @Chae, rick owens and raf simons have struck me as gamma style . what do you think?

    maybe they are both beta, along with hood by air though

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    Quote Originally Posted by kalinoche View Post
    @Chae, rick owens and raf simons have struck me as gamma style . what do you think?

    maybe they are both beta, along with hood by air though
    Nice ideas!

    Rick- Wow, oh yes, Gamma. Not flamboyant enough to be Beta. Rick himself looks really cool His type?
    Raf- Beta, the designs are Fe-flashy and Ti-patterned. Not practical enough for Gamma.
    Hood by Air - Beta indeed, super aristocratic and Ni-oriented. Rihanna wore it earlier at the VMAs and it just matched so well



    Jaw-dropping <333

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    I think eminem is ESI, and I would kill for his leather jacket.
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    Pastel trousers?

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    I love trenchcoat detective look

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheHiddenJack View Post
    I love trenchcoat detective look
    Me too I have quite a few with some Fedora from NYC lol. Makes me look like a bitch ^_^

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    Quote Originally Posted by mintwind View Post
    Me too I have quite a few with some Fedora from NYC lol. Makes me look like a bitch ^_^
    I like it so )

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    Any leather shit is ESI if you did not know. Seriously.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Persephone View Post
    Any leather shit is ESI if you did not know. Seriously.
    I hate leather and so do ESIs I know, for many reasons including animal rights. ESIs love animals

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    Most of my stuff is all hand me down stuff that sits around and I don't wear them much ... But the stuff I get on my own ends up being black hoodies with thumb holes, black trench coats or long coats, jeans or black pants, black t-shirts, yoga pants, weird hoodie dresses for winter, etc. Then I have some nerd apparel. My Team Valor hoodie. Attack on Titan apparel. Snorlax Pokemon t-shirt where he's like NOT TODAY! I wear that t-shirt when I just want to chill and be left alone. I wear a lot of Citrine and Green Aventurine bracelets because they're like lucky talisman to me. Then I wear a Blue Kyanite necklace because it supposedly deflects negativity and turns it in to a positive.

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    Lately all I wear is those black hoodie dresses, with some black yoga pants underneath, and black fashion hats. Multiple pairs of the same outfit lol.

    I just... Don't care. I'm tired. The look is so neutral it just works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    The series continues. After the wardrobes of SEE and ILI, I assembled FiSe fashion for you to enjoy.

    Parameters:


    - conventional cuts that are neither very offbeat nor too eclecticist
    - subdued colors like blue and black
    - sober and collected, very deliberate
    - can be nostalgic, yet lacks in futuristic elements
    - classy
    - composure is important
    - counter-inventive, yet fresh
    - reserved, fabrics are often dark
    - chaos is not allowed, everything has its place.
    - jewelry can be intricate, but the rest of the outfit is kept simple
    - female designs can be `cute´, representing some degree of affection and it's so adorable
    - lots of business-inspired pieces, or at least clothes that indicate: "I'm a busy person and cannot be messed with"
    - ESI knows their worth but doesn't wear overly condescending outfits (especially when it comes to color)
    - clothes are worn to master the environment, but a professional appearance is also intended - a balance has to be found
    - can look like a detective, esp. the males. ESIs invented trenchcoat awesomeness.
    - patterns have to be consistent
    - no outlandish designs
    - emphasis on tradition, classics are preferred over new-fashioned pieces
    - aggressor textures like black leather are present
    - approachable and competent, doesn't offend blatantly at first glance (esp. Fi subtypes, Se subtypes may wear something more direct)
    - there's a certain coolness to the look
    - Generally seems trustworthy and reliable, but not submissive

    Link to the album: http://imgur.com/a/r50ej

    Found in collections of: JOOP, Bulgari, Hugo Boss, Nike, Omega, Gucci, Lanvin, Azbro, Burberry, French Connection, H&M, House of Adam, Ian RN, Dell' oglio, Chanel, Gaultier, Balmain, LWren Scott, Fossil, ZARA, Victoria Beckham, T Babaton, Swarowsi, Ralph&Russo, T2 DYT, Shop Holden, Tom Ford, Zalando, Zaful, Tory Burch, YSL, Ralph Lauren, PU, People Tree, Quay Australia, SheIn, Prada, Perlin Shop, Shoe Cult, Michael Kors, Manolo Blahnik, Replay, Pepe Jeans

    The LIE post is already under construction
    Everything on your list is exactly how I dress. But, the link to the album was the complete opposite of what I would go for when clothes shopping.
    LSI-Se 836 Sp/Sx

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    I tend to wear darker jeans, dark color t-shirts like black, navy blue, dark red, and lots of grey. My coats and sneakers are black. I like some form fitting, sporty looking clothes, but also like loose,comfortable clothing like athletic pants and hoodies.
    Important to note! People who share "indentical" socionics TIMs won't necessarily appear to be very similar, since they have have different backgrounds, experiences, capabilities, genetics, as well as different types in other typological systems (enneagram, instinctual variants, etc.) all of which also have a sway on compatibility and identification. Thus, Socionics type "identicals" won't necessarily be identical i.e. highly similar to each other, and not all people of "dual" types will seem interesting, attractive and appealing to each other.

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    Chad's wardrobe







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    Here is the LIE counterpart


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    Here is the LIE counterpart

    I have been wearing these all my life

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheHiddenJack View Post
    I have been wearing these all my life
    Lmaoooo Gates incarnate!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    Lmaoooo Gates incarnate!!
    Gates? The guy on right looks like tré cool from green day

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    Here is the LIE counterpart

    I wouldn't be caught dead in shoes like those.

    I have a pair of New Balance shoes (because they make shoes for wide feet) like this one:

    https://s7d5.scene7.com/is/image/NB/...id=640&hei=600

    But I don't like to show socks or bare skin through my shoes for some reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    I wouldn't be caught dead in shoes like those.

    I have a pair of New Balance shoes (because they make shoes for wide feet) like this one:

    https://s7d5.scene7.com/is/image/NB/...id=640&hei=600

    But I don't like to show socks or bare skin through my shoes for some reason.
    As a child and later as a teen I bought the same model of shoes similar to this one:
    BLA.jpg
    Because first it protects my toe, second it doesn't feel like it is falling from my foot when I run or walk on grass like some other summer shoes, third my feet sweat and bother me alot, fourth they are very easy and fast to wear and fifth they are simple and sporty. Now I always wear these at university:
    Street ASICS GT-1000 Womens Running Shoes Onyx Black Lightning Top_LRG.jpg
    Because I can't wear the first ones at uni anymore.
    My ESI close friend wears something like these:
    D709948-Tan-938f8c31-.jpeg
    And overall has a simple style but is casually neat something like this:
    f5f34db46f9e610ed787d9ff11e7e4ff.jpg
    Keeps his hair short, shaves regularly, and never wears dirty or unfit clothes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    I wouldn't be caught d/e/ad
    in shoes like those.
    http://thatssodad.blogspot.ca/2011/0...nce-shoes.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    I wouldn't be caught dead in shoes like those.

    I have a pair of New Balance shoes (because they make shoes for wide feet) like this one:

    https://s7d5.scene7.com/is/image/NB/...id=640&hei=600
    Wow, I was thinking of buying a pair of New Balance shoes exactly like those... but probably in darker colors... those look pretty cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    I wouldn't be caught dead in shoes like those.

    I have a pair of New Balance shoes (because they make shoes for wide feet) like this one:

    https://s7d5.scene7.com/is/image/NB/...id=640&hei=600

    But I don't like to show socks or bare skin through my shoes for some reason.
    I think any type can wear the new balance shoes. SLE LSE LII etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    The series continues. After the wardrobes of SEE and ILI, I assembled FiSe fashion for you to enjoy.

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    Clothes are mainly for covering and warming purposes but may be handy for carrying stuff around.

    Interesting though what a homo sapiens esi does for flesh coverage.
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