I really like this and I feel like it captures a lot of what Fi isOriginally Posted by inabox
I really like this and I feel like it captures a lot of what Fi is
McKayla Maroney...IEE-Fi 6w5 sp/sx
Added: https://www.pinterest.com/socionics/iee-fi/
Jarrod Ramos...IEE-Fi 1w9 sp/sx
This parasite clearly fits the VI template for IEE-Fi:
Compare to my SP/SX IEE-Fi examples Maroney (6w5) and 50 Cent (9w8) here: https://www.pinterest.com/socionics/iee-fi/
Core Type One Motivation/Drive: Revenge
Scott Dozier...IEE-Fi 3w4-6w5-8w7 sp/so
Both the 3w4 and the 7w6 are in the assertive grouping. The main difference between 3w4 and 7w6 is that 7w6 is a lot more mercurial/"bipolar" (mood-cyclers), ooze of nonconformity/subversion and work best in environments that lack structure. The 3w4 is more image oriented and present a more consistent persona. Now a dense flathead would type somebody like Stu Ungar a 3w4 because Ungar took pride in being the best at poker and was incredible at it. That's only how somebody with a superficial, cookiecutter grasp of the various enneagram types would see it...upons closer inspection, there is no type of deception in presentation by Ungar that would make you think this person is phony in some way and he's not always presenting the poker persona. When he says he's the best, he's stating a fact that pretty much anybody who knows poker will agree with. Upon deeper review, he's a nonconformist, a subversive....there's no rule in nature that says people motivated to subvert can't be the best or most talented at something. Dozier on the other hand has a classic deceptive, image-oriented, intentionally calibrated 3w4 kinesthetic.
He's not an 8...his kinesthetic isn't dominant/willful but more interpersonally calculating, deceptive, chameleonic, slimy, and seeming eager to calibrate to his interlocuter -- the rattlesnake; scorpio. He hedges his bets on everything he says. like the inflections in his voice have an air of guessing, estimating, ruminating, speculating...Anyways, super clear Image triad > gut triad
As an IEE-Fi, he has a cognition for interpersonal dynamics and mirroring others -- working more through others by trying to plant ideas and throw out hints about what he means etc.
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Katherine Fauvre...IEE-Ne 6w5-1w2-3w4 sp/sx
Perfect catch for the IEE-Ne template:
https://www.pinterest.com/socionics/iee-ne/
This is an easy one. Her kinesthetic is not self-confident enough for a 3 or an 8. She's not in the assertive triad. Obvioulsy she's not an 8 if she's an IEE (that combination doesn't exist and can't exist...eight is the type lowest in emotional/cognitive empathy and highest in power-seeking, so Fi or Fe in an ego block is not possible....furthermore the eight personality would never see itself as an F even if it were possible) She looks cautious, worried, restrained and tight-lipped (keeping one eye open -- the self-protective solution)….certainly not a gut type and not an image type. 3w4s carry a much lighter expression on their faces that belies the coolness of an advertisement. She doesn't have a willful kinesthetic. Her kinesthetic is vigilant/self-protective/guarded. She also self-types as a sx 8 and calls sx 8 devotion. Devotion is the main preoccupation/drive of the 6w7.
Edit: Actually, that's a better description for the 6w5 kinesthetic. Overall better fit for 6w5 sp/sx.
Typing shortcuts for novices:
Socionics deals with Cognition...the typing shortcut are the physical structure of the eyes, which has enough variation to accommodate the expressions of the different stackings.
Stackings deals with General Behaviors that don't conflict with core features/traits of the enneagram types....the typing shortcut is to look for the expression in the eyes
Enneagram deals with Personality (motivation, worldview, defense mechanisms, drives, specific - unchanging behaviors/patterns)....the typing shortcut is physical expression/kinesthetic.
Last edited by Kill4Me; 07-16-2018 at 10:39 PM.
What stands out as IEE here?
I, personally, never agree with Kill4me's assessments. However, his speech patterns can come off as IEE or Delta NF; I found myself relating to it, somewhat. However, I have seen Beta NFs sometimes having similar speech patterns (ie mirroring emotions, being comfortable abstract ideas like death in the manner that Scott was etc).
Brene Brown...IEE-Ne 2w3 sp/so
Hillary Clinton...IEE-Ne 1w9 sp/so
Socionics: Cognition, Enneagram: Kinesthetic.
the 2w3 kinesthetic carries IEE-Ne cognition quite easily but the rigid 1w9 kinesthetic is not the greatest match.
Oh. God. What.Brene Brown...IEE-Ne 2w3 sp/so
Hillary Clinton...IEE-Ne 1w9 sp/so
Socionics: Cognition, Enneagram: Kinesthetic.
the 2w3 kinesthetic carries IEE-Ne cognition quite easily but the rigid 1w9 kinesthetic is not the greatest match.
Brown is some kind of Delta but Hilary is an Ni-INTp .... Very obviously ...
Keith Raniere...IEE-Fi 9w1 so/sp
For an example of the 9w1 kinesthetic running on SLE-Se cognition, see my Joseph Kony addition to the SLE examples thread over in the Beta Quadra sub-forum.
These typings always give me a headache. (Isn't this the NXIVM guy?)Keith Raniere...IEE-Fi 9w1 so/sp
For an example of the 9w1 kinesthetic running on SLE-Se cognition, see my Joseph Kony addition to the SLE examples thread over in the Beta Quadra sub-forum.
And this guy's mannerisms are Fe-leading and Ni-creative. I do not get Ne-lead and Fe-demonstrative at all. He's EIE O_O. The thread is filled with mistyping. Jeez jeez jeez.
Tom Condon is a good example of an IEE-Fi sp/sx.
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