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    Quote Originally Posted by Minde View Post
    Ahaha. Haha. Ha...

    That's Ij, Fi+Ne for you. Or even just Ij Fi. Kind of built for hanging onto the tough ones. It's just, which are the right tough ones? That can be difficult to establish when you're in the thick of it. That's where it can be helpful to have friends who share values but are separate from the situation.
    All kinds of types stick around for all kinds of reasons. The traditional types do so because of commitment, inertia of Ej energy; the experience types create distance by doing their own things. The Ip because they adapt and go along. And, the ij because I'm stable in my commitment to someone and don't back out easily. Mostly Fi for love. I do complain about some things to my friends for support but I won't ruined my relationship over it.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa View Post
    All kinds of types stick around for all kinds of reasons. The traditional types do so because of commitment, inertia of Ej energy; the experience types create distance by doing their own things. The Ip because they adapt and go along. And, the ij because I'm stable in my commitment to someone and don't back out easily. Mostly Fi for love. I do complain about some things to my friends for support but I won't ruined my relationship over it.
    I agree that people stay for many reasons including things like financial security. Keep in mind that you are not the one ruining the relationship. It sounds like he is doing a good job on his own. You two have a serious communication problem and if you don't sort it out soon, nothing will change and it will probably escalate. If he does not show you the respect of listening to your concerns and feelings then you might need to get some counseling. He does not seem the type to go for that though. Your posts about him almost seem like there is an element of fear on your part. Maybe it is time for introspection first, then communicate what you discover to him. If he does not listen then I think you have the answer.

    I am assuming you are the reasonable one in this relationship and not bugging him constantly to the point that he has just shut down and does not want to talk to you. Obviously I don't know his side but I really don't feel I need to hear his side, in this case.

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    Serious Left-Static Negativist Eliza Thomason's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa View Post
    All kinds of types stick around for all kinds of reasons. The traditional types do so because of commitment, inertia of Ej energy; the experience types create distance by doing their own things. The Ip because they adapt and go along. And, the ij because I'm stable in my commitment to someone and don't back out easily. Mostly Fi for love. I do complain about some things to my friends for support but I won't ruined my relationship over it.
    Its true all kinds of types stick around for different reasons. I think the "Fi for love" is the most persistent reason, and I think that is why I have noticed again and again EIIs being fools for love, toughing it out with the tough guys who are tough because they really aren't cut out for relationships, for one reason or another, and are not worth Ij's commitment. Its as if EIIs think love conquers all, or that if they love well enough the guy will become better??

    @Aylen, I want also to make sure I do not leave the impression that the Lumox's behavior is characteristic of ESE - just characteristic of my Narcissist-ESE ex. I have ESE friends I have known well and long who are not all, not one bit like this, ever, which I why I qualified it with "narcissist"...
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