Ti observes the correlations between measurements, including definitions of terms.
-For some weird reason, I don’t understand descriptions of Ti, like in this instance I don’t understand what is meant by “measurements” is that physically or theoretically? I do have a fascination with the dictionary, I really like looking up, and finding new words and seeing how they're used, im not sure of that attributes to anything.
ignore the "measurements" part, Ti is about static relations between data. So, you are fascinated by this sort of thing and probably value 
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Ti holds vast amounts of such information in the mind, and hungrily absorbs it. Then Ti sticks fast to it and will use the collection of relationships and correlations between data to quickly defend his observations of relationships between different data or correlations, quickly judging such correlations for rightness/wrongness based on their observations of the data relationships.
-This is quite a lot to take in, but from what I’ve read here I do tend to draw a lot of comparisons and like to categorise best and worst, this is kind of hard for me to think about.
This part is more about , except for the first sentence in the description. So, is hard for you to think about.
Ti is concerned about how all the variables fit together. Ti approaches by observing how the complex system of concrete measurements fit together in this great machine of how things work.
-I do like to know “how “ things work, so I tend to ask loads of very specific questions about systems and things of such nature, i dont like just answers, i like to know why and how.
again probably subdued 
, there is some 
here too
Te is intrisinctly involved in observing the actions that are going on at the moment, and how one movement is related to the next one. Strong Te focuses easily and constantly on the process going on at hand.I disagree with this, "at the moment" involves sensing automatically
-I tend to focus on the process going on at hand, but not for very long, without even realising it, I’ve drifted off into my head and forgotten about what’s going on.
Typical intuitive
Take cooking, for example. Cooking requires you to constantly monitor one action after another--measuring, pouring, stirring--and the accuracy of these actions. Let your mind wander and your souffle will burst, or egg shell pieces will get lost in your cake.
THIS IS 
NOT
-This is a known weakness for me, I know for a fact that I cant keep all of that in my head at once and act upon it, I know that ill miss out a step and mess everything up, or I may find short cuts around an important area, so I guess im weak at this. When im able to once in a while do something seamlessly well and organised I feel good, but even in that instance i had help, but generally I dont try that much because I know I cant, im usually quite vocal about this, and makes jokes about it.
clear enough
Te observes and analyzes the routine activity of actions and analyzes the actions for completeness and thoroughness of covering every base of the task at hand.
-Nope, like I said before, routine and I are not good friends at all, I tend to cut corners a lot mainly I get bored or uninterested in following a routine, or the simple fact I forget, i usually tell people not to entrust me with such heavily routines based things. TBH, i would like to be able to follow a routine and all, but its really hard.
not much or 
Based on these conclusions, Te judges on the rightness/wrongness of observed routines. Te is concerned about the task at hand. Te approaches tasks by observing the method of doing it the best.
-I do like to employ the best method of doing things, i think there isn’t any need to waste time doing rubbish things, but I’ve seen a very bad habit, I can outright reject some methods, or suggestions of people that are pushing me to do things that seems logical, for example I was going out with my mum and she said carry a umbrella, stupid me said no, but I actually had no reason for not carrying the umbrella when it was right in front of me at the moment, in hindsight carrying the umbrella would have stopped me from catching a cold, but i just outright rejected it.
more weak
Te immediately observes the practicality, of how to do the current task at hand, or how to set up an actual, concrete task that will be done. Te talks about how the task actually turns out to work in real life.
-I like to know how things work in real life, because ultimately we are living in the real world, but when I ask about real life application and productivity its usually out of courtesy and what I want for another person, so once I asked my friend "are you revising for the exam next week", she said "no", I said "that’s so unproductive you should be productive", but I haven’t even read the first page of my revision notes and im telling her off, I tend to be quite hypocritical with this function.
hm, "real world" and getting stuff done is really more . Hypocrisy is a typical characteristic of the Mobilizing function: people criticize others for it but suck at it themselves.
Fi observes personal attraction and repulsion between people and things, the boundaries of relationships created between people, and how those relationships are in relation to other bonds created in a great web of interpersonal relational tactics, rules, limits, etc. Fi analyzes the levels of personal attraction or repulsion that creates these bonds.
-I do focus on my relationships and the very little technicalities of it, like I’ll analyse any encounter with a friend and really see what is holding out friendship together, and I do that with everyone, I’ll analyse them and compare them with other relationships, sometimes after a long day at school I’ll think back to all my encounters and replay them and try and analyse the conversation to see what was it about ?, how close are we ? how did I feel when I was there ? Stuff like that.
straightforward
Fi relations are a tactic, a bond, a unification made inside of and in relation to all of the other existing unities between people. Within it there are certain rules and understandings of what is appropriate and not appropriate to do within the realm of ethics. It's not as simple as "oh, don't use dirty words." Its more like 'we are attracted to eachother (as a bond),' and, sometimes, 'we are not attracted to them.'
-I do know what is appropriate and not appropriate, sometimes “inappropriate things slip out, once my aunt spent the whole evening cooking but I came home late so I didn't eat her food, the next day she forced me to each it and out of courtesy I ate it because I know the effort she put into making that food, I didn’t like the chicken she cooked so I left it and in my head I was saying to myself "I don’t like this but im just going to say the food was nice", by the time i put my fork down she asked if the food was nice I said "yeah , but I didn’t like the chicken", that wasn’t meant to come out, so I compensated by saying I liked the rice. My approch is more “don’t use dirty words” because children are around and people will look at me funny, and I don’t want to offend anyone
ok, "inappropriate" can mean 
too. Really the example you gave about food would point to 
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For some it is a tactic they can manipulate, for others it is something that 'happens' to them and they benefit from it. For a Fi base individual, it may be just something that happens. They don't choose it so much as it seems like a fact that colors their whole perception vis a vis these interconnecting bonds. Fi creative individuals may or create those bonds. In some ways it may seem like they have a greater control, or atleast more of an active control, over it than Fi-base.
- tend to have thoughts about wanting to create distance or closeness with certain individuals, but I think I just let whatever happens, one thing i cant do is be cold and "turn off" the closeness with people, regardless of who you are I cant just be cold and bitchy , I’ll still smile with you and stuff like that even though I may have the thought of closing it, i don't take the initiative, i just leave it.
ok, but this again very strongly points to valued .
Fi isnt the same as "friendship," its about position within a realm of understood positions and relations; not just rules that 'limit'...but rules that are there; so the word use 'tactic' is used. Fi is a 'unification' between people. Fi is an ethical understanding. It's emotional; it's a personal understanding.
Initiation of a Fi relationship can be as simple as coming into the ownership of a pet or the custody of a child; the emotional bond is the culmination of the relationship, but the initiation is essentially Fi. A Fi relationship was established at the moment tactical emotional or ethical interconnections changed between individuals: now one's role is to look apon the other with love and caretaking; the other's role is to look up to the first with love and obedience. Such are the implicitly understood rules of the Fi understanding.
-I can see relationships everywhere and im quite sensitive to them, one little thing, maybe smiling at someone at the bus stop has now put you in a certain type of relationship with that person, it may not be deep, but its happened, I don’t really know if I take it this seriously. lol, that's more . At least, I don't think an type would consider smiling at someone on the bus to be a real relationship.
I can say rather inappropriate things just for fun and jokes, or when im bored.
Thats not fair Fe's bit is so small !
Fe observes the display of feeling or disposition and analyzes motive, the catalyst of the feeling or disposition.
This is actually a very good description
-I analyse motive like no other, I really enjoy doing it, I can usually tell you why someone feels a certain way, and what has caused that emotion
clear
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Fe analyzes based on a particular disposition or emotional cues. Finely tuned Fe can be "people-smart" and pay attention to determining who is trustworthy and what to expect from their behavior based on hints of emotional and behavioral expressions.
-I so can do this ! I can look at people and really get an understanding of weather they’re trustworthy, or sneaky or really nice, its instant and that is information I consciously know I pay attention to, I like discussing it with other people to, I also know very well how to get people to certain emotional places, I kind of get lost in their emotions and then move from co-pilot to pilot and then take them to where I want to go so I can get what I want. My ability to follow peoples emotions allows me to anticipate what they’re going to do most of the time, so I can say things that can purposefully cause an emotional reaction, I can usually get a rise out of people this is when im especially bored, I’ll just say controversial things this is usually an attempt to get conversation going.
again, lots and lots of . Also, enjoying controversy points more towards Beta. All in all EIE seems very likely
Ni observes and synthesizes developments as building blocks leading to something interesting that could happen, tries to envision how and when it could happen.
This is
-I like to make these forecasts, they tend to be regarding a situation, they usually suddenly come to me and I think “ I have a feeling XYZ will happen”
but this is 
Ni is about development between patterns of events over time. Ni thinks "learning a language is good to reach because of the places it will bring you to." About the outcome, Ni says "that was bound to develop in that success/failure."
-I would learn a language because I know it would improve my chances of getting a job, and if I ever were to travel to that country I’ll be able to speak it. Regarding the second line, i tend to know if something will be successful, like my friend always used to tell me about a girl he liked and I said I think she kind of likes you but nothing between you will develop, also once I said to my friend that one girl looks really bitchy and very sneaky, what turned out ? she been talking mad rubbish about people with her friends.
alright, that's with - valuing types tend to assign/recognize sinister motivations more easily
Ni will absorb information to add them as building blocks to come to some "essence" of the ideas they're developing. Ni takes a bunch of different instances and synthesizes them together to develop them in one direction of potential development.
nope, this is
-i do that, with that girl i spoke about, im still watching her and adding up information about her.
Ne observes and analyzes developments as static external possibilities that can be immediately acted apon. Ne thinks "learning a language is good in and of itself because it has innate potential." About the outcome, Ne says "well, that could have developed in any of these different ways, so it wasn't really set in stone."
-analysing the possible ways something could develop is very interesting, however that wouldn't cross my mind until urged to think.For example when learning a language, I would be thinking about the fact I would increase my opportunity to get a job, but if someone brought up possibilities, I may be able to build upon the possibilities they've thought of.
ok, so you think more about . maybe. But you can do too.
Ne absorbs information just because it has potential of development in and of itself. Ne takes an instance and develops it in many different directions of potential development.
Basically what I said.
Si is intrisinctly involved in the changes that take place to your internal sense of physical and psychological stability. Strong Si is effervesently and naturally efficient in awareness of these processes. Strong Si focuses constantly on the relationship between the inner sense of wellbeing of different stimulai
Si means you're trying to establish stability internally which IS pleasant, but not necessarily pleasantness itself: not the pursuit of pleasure, but the observation of internal statis or 'status quo', being at a functional even keel psychologically and physically.
Valued Si makes this the primary motivation for activity. The effects of eating a meal and feeling back to status quo of operations afterwards are always within his reach. Viewing a beautiful painting, and hearing beautiful music are all made in an effort to get back to the status quo of inner stability, both psychological and physiological.
Si observes the harmony, beauty, pleasingness, and satisfaction of relations between things in his environment and analyzes on how harmonious it is in relation to the next thing: these relations include those within his body, his environment, and personal relationships. He may achieve harmony and pleasant sensation by avoiding discomfort or by creating comfort for himself and for others (this may be influenced by whether he is a primarily perceiving or judging type). He may achieve this through physical health, stable finances, pleasing decor, or a variety of other passive or active methods.
-sometimes I subject myself to outright discomfort, like I can purposefully stay up really late even thought i'm really tired , or put of eating because I cant be bothered to deal with making the food because im so consumed in whatever im doing , I can tell I need to pee, but wont because of laziness or forgetfulness, on the flipside to, I can eat loads without even realising it, or sleel to much and wake up even more tired. Tbh im very hit and miss with this, I need some explanation on this.
ok, yes, types can *occasionally* neglect certain needs - usually in seeking some more immediate source of pleasure or comfort. But if it's a real problem point, this does point to weak .
Se is intrisinctly involved in observing the properties of objects in the immediate sense. What precise color is it, how does it taste, what exactly does it smell like? Strong Se focuses easily and constantly on the outer properties of the objects at hand. sure, and how big it is, how heavy it is, and how they can get it. Or if it's a person, what they look like. tends to be more visual, and more tactile.
-I try to, for example if I have a favourite food I’ll pay attention to the taste, and notice any discrepancies, same with smell, but I can sometimes day dream and not even realise what is around me, so I’ll completely miss things around me, and end up walking into a pole.
Take fashion--is the cut of your shirt immaculate? Take martial arts--at what angle is the arc of the fist coming towards your face? How do I mobilize the force of my body to deflect and/or immobilize the threat? The same process with sports. The possibilities are endless.
-I always mobilise after the situation has passed, Its so sad, sometimes I’ll be way to forceful, or not exert enough force.
Se observes the potential to mobilize people to enact his will dynamically, and based on this observation analyzes what he might use to cause the enforcement of his will.
-I tend not to be very aggressive or forceful , I'm quite weak at that, but sometime when I keep pushing it pays off, i cant really think of any examples, but I can say I don’t back down to confrontation.
ok, so you have some basic ability to use maybe, but not much.
Originally Posted by Maritsa
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