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    I also have another question - How does an SLE do their "energy management"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    I also have another question - How does an SLE do their "energy management"?
    Quite inconsistently, though that certainly goes without saying.

    Without adequate Ni direction (in the form of a formulated "game plan" or at least enough predictable variables in a circumstance that will allow us to chart a course on our own with minimal guesswork needed and the risk for other unforeseen issues cropping up), things can get messy and erratic, scattered if you will. It can also result in failed experiments, or, going the opposite route, stagnancy due to the fear of taking a step in the wrong direction. We wait for our cookies, and then assemble like a transformer. Then shoot towards our goal like a cannonball .

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffer View Post
    Quite inconsistently, though that certainly goes without saying.

    Without adequate Ni direction (in the form of a formulated "game plan" or at least enough predictable variables in a circumstance that will allow us to chart a course on our own with minimal guesswork needed and the risk for other unforeseen issues cropping up), things can get messy and erratic, scattered if you will. It can also result in failed experiments, or, going the opposite route, stagnancy due to the fear of taking a step in the wrong direction. We wait for our cookies, and then assemble like a transformer. Then shoot towards our goal like a cannonball .
    What kind of predictable variables have you needed help with? You got any actual example of this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myst View Post
    What kind of predictable variables have you needed help with? You got any actual example of this?
    Knowing the operating schedule of people or organizations I'll have to be dealing with to carry my plan out, just as one example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffer View Post
    Knowing the operating schedule of people or organizations I'll have to be dealing with to carry my plan out, just as one example.
    Why do you need Ni for this though? Ti/Te isn't enough for this? Really curious as to which part you see as Ni in this.

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    Have you ever been in love?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wacey View Post
    Have you ever been in love?
    Yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by niffer View Post
    Yes.
    Why do you find me annoying? lol Probably gonna be a long list. You're supposed to crave me.

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    @niffer what things do you dream about or how do your dreams look like (i'm literally talking about dreams which occur during sleep). a SLE i know would sometimes mention what he dreams about, it was usually purely physical, sensory stuff and perceptions (like falling, running, navigating through an environment, etc..) completely devoid of people or anything else. (at least the ones he mentioned). is that typical for SLE? (or Se users) or does it depend on the individual?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lynn View Post
    @niffer what things do you dream about or how do your dreams look like (i'm literally talking about dreams which occur during sleep). a SLE i know would sometimes mention what he dreams about, it was usually purely physical, sensory stuff and perceptions (like falling, running, navigating through an environment, etc..) completely devoid of people or anything else. (at least the ones he mentioned). is that typical for SLE? (or Se users) or does it depend on the individual?
    As Se ego if you are interested - my default dreams are like you said, physical, sensory stuff, navigation through landscapes and moving in different ways. The people are just objects in those dreams. That is, they are a bit distant. Though I could interact with them a bit. Not much feeling overall.

    Sometimes I can have more emotional dreams and those always stand out to me because they are hardly the default.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myst View Post
    As Se ego if you are interested - my default dreams are like you said, physical, sensory stuff, navigation through landscapes and moving in different ways. The people are just objects in those dreams. That is, they are a bit distant. Though I could interact with them a bit. Not much feeling overall.

    Sometimes I can have more emotional dreams and those always stand out to me because they are hardly the default.
    are the people just random objects? people mean different things. I often have friends in my dreams. And I have enemies. And they are represented as people like Entropic. They are symbols.

    Like, if you had a great loving mother and I had a terrible one, our mothers symbolize different things to us. Their symbols represent something totally different. One mother can be a symbol of love and peace. Another of war and spite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tearsofaclown View Post
    are the people just random objects? people mean different things. I often have friends in my dreams. And I have enemies. And they are represented as people like Entropic. They are symbols.
    They seem random objects in the spatial-sensory dreams yeah. In the emotional dreams they are probably not just randomly there. The only way I can try and read the meaning of these dreams though is by following the "thread" that the emotions/feelings show. Actually I'm surprisingly OK with doing so.

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    @lynn I can tell you that my dreams almost always have people and relationships in them lol.

    I'm sure someone's going to mention that it's probably because I'm a girl... lol.

    I will say there is a lot of physical perceptual stuff going on too, although from what I can tell everybody reports these things when talking about their dreams.

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    It's because you're Fi-dom

    Socionics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffer View Post
    I'm sure someone's going to mention that it's probably because I'm a girl... lol.
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    It's because you're Fi-dom

    Socionics.
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    i had a dream about eating bacon off a wet and filthy floor the other night

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bertrand View Post
    i had a dream about eating bacon off a wet and filthy floor the other night
    A guy will eat anything if it has bacon on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    A guy will eat anything if it has bacon on it.
    Are you suggesting that people who want to attract men should be using bacon grease instead of perfume?

    a.k.a. I/O

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebelondeck View Post
    Are you suggesting that people who want to attract men should be using bacon grease instead of perfume?

    a.k.a. I/O
    Bacon and fish don't go that well together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    A guy will eat anything if it has bacon on it.


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    I prefer beef
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    So would you classify yourself in Gulenko terms as "Amazon"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Troll Nr 007 View Post
    So would you classify yourself in Gulenko terms as "Amazon"?
    Lol yeah a little.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Troll Nr 007 View Post
    So would you classify yourself in Gulenko terms as "Amazon"?
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    Lol my ILI dad actually emailed me once while I was working abroad: "how are the vegetarians doing or has T. Rex eaten them all?"
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    Gotta say I'm pretty self-satisfied that this thread has 3x as many views as that moronic "your typing of forum members" thread LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by niffer View Post
    Gotta say I'm pretty self-satisfied that this thread has 3x as many views as that moronic "your typing of forum members" thread LOL.
    But I like that thread
    It's good for the drama .
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    this is my thread now.

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    @niffer

    What did you put down in those 'what is your dream job/what do you want to be when you grow up' worksheet things that you did in elementary school? When you were about 6-8 years old.

    Or is that a Western US only thing idk.
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    @dead bnd Probably wanted to be a veterinarian then lol, not that exciting.
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    7 Reasons to Not Date a Russian Woman

    ^ I thought this was pretty funny, and applies to SLE woman stereotypes pretty well (actually all Se ego women). Probably works well for me tbh, not all of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by niffer View Post
    7 Reasons to Not Date a Russian Woman

    ^ I thought this was pretty funny, and applies to SLE woman stereotypes pretty well (actually all Se ego women). Probably works well for me tbh, not all of it.
    Russia's integral type is close to being sx/sp and Beta ST/NF. Not sure the integral type of US but guessing it's Gamma rational.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffer View Post
    7 Reasons to Not Date a Russian Woman

    ^ I thought this was pretty funny, and applies to SLE woman stereotypes pretty well (actually all Se ego women). Probably works well for me tbh, not all of it.
    The women described in the article seem like xSIs, perhaps closer to ESI than LSI. Some themes that stood out to me: Reserved but emotionally and physically resilient, aware of sensory concerns (i.e. food), needs loyalty, highly organized, wants your babies, can be a bit jealous and possessive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spermatozoa View Post
    The women described in the article seem like xSIs, perhaps closer to ESI than LSI. Some themes that stood out to me: Reserved but emotionally and physically resilient, aware of sensory concerns (i.e. food), needs loyalty, highly organized, wants your babies, can be a bit jealous and possessive.
    It didn’t mention reserved. I know that’s a Russian stereotype though. It didn’t mention highly organized at all either, e.g. “Her dozens of bottles and jars on the bathroom shelf will very quickly crowd out your solitary antiperspirant and will eventually start falling on your head while you take your shower.” I think you are imagining the connections to what the article actually said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by niffer View Post
    It didn’t mention reserved. I know that’s a Russian stereotype though. It didn’t mention highly organized at all either, e.g. “Her dozens of bottles and jars on the bathroom shelf will very quickly crowd out your solitary antiperspirant and will eventually start falling on your head while you take your shower.” I think you are imagining the connections to what the article actually said.
    Here is why I say "highly organized":

    You are looking for words to tell her about your upcoming office party on Friday, but she already knows where, when and with whom you are going. She has everything on record. She does not see her stalker-like surveillance of your social network accounts as a violation of your personal space or right to privacy. She is simply keeping tabs on things in order to prevent them from spinning out of control.
    Is your demand for order and clarity really this high?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spermatozoa View Post
    Here is why I say "highly organized":



    Do you do this?
    That is not a reason because other things like what I quoted contradict the notion, but okay.

    And yeah I’m pretty stalkery.
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    How many IEIs have you victimized to date, and how many of them developed Stockholm Syndrome?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spermatozoa View Post
    How many IEIs have you victimized to date, and how many of them developed Stockholm Syndrome?
    3/3

    One of them developed it with me at his own place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by niffer View Post
    3/3

    One of them developed it with me at his own place.
    If you try that on me, I'm going to sue you for sexual harassment because I'm a Victim.

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