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I'm not really sure how this whole visual-typing thing works. It assumes genetics play a big part in what our personality is.
I'll post a video if people care enough to type me.
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I'm not really sure how this whole visual-typing thing works. It assumes genetics play a big part in what our personality is.
I'll post a video if people care enough to type me.
Sure
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I need one more person to commit to typing me, then I will post a video.
I remember I typed you SLI months ago but I did not watch the whole video. I just thought you resembled my brother in-law so much that I associated your looks with his. If I remember correctly you look like a younger version of him. I would be willing to take another look and listen. I am not married to the SLI typing and I have expanded my socionics knowledge base since then. I can't guarantee I will get any new impressions but I will share if I do.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
It's done.
Here's the video:
LSE final
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I'll just do the first description:
trueLSE appreciates merit and good quality above everything else. He is assertive and operative, hard-working and conscientious. Prefers actions to words and cannot sit around with nothing to do.
Wherever he is, he contends chaos and disorder. Dislikes it when he is distracted from what he is doing.
false
LSE tries to provide for loved ones by means of increasing their material prosperity. Very caring. Comes to the rescue when someone is threatened by physical danger. In such a situation acts with courage and determination.
false
trueLacks diplomacy skills in relations. Expresses his opinions with directness.
falseStubbornly argues and grows hot tempered when he has to prove his correctness. May become unnerved, fly off the handle. Doesn't know how to give compliments.
trueDislikes talking about nothing, although finds it difficult to break off a conversation.
trueIn dealings he is often dry and official, but in an informal atmosphere may show kindness and humor. Getting stuck on the details of his work, he sometimes doesn't finish it within the scheduled time, which is very upsetting for him. Does not welcome unexpected events. Slowly learns about and accepts new trends and developments.
Often is conservative and a supporter of traditions.
false.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I read the detailed description for SLI and it seems pretty accurate.
have another question though.
Do your guys here think type can change?
I have to understand the difference between Introvert and Extrovert that you here adhere to. I'm very socially reserved and I view the outside world very subjectively; I often "imagine" things being different than they really are..
most likely SLI
Socionics E/I is not related to introversion in the dictionary sene which refers to social interaction. It refers to how function are directed Te is referred to observation of dynamic of things as in observing actions not socializing, which may be part of comfort level. It's best to look at each functions definition
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I'm going to say Alpha. Probably on the ILE or SEI spectrum.
The cases where Extroverts may mistakenly think they are Introverts are all extroverted logical types, because their poor ethics may lead to being socially disconnected due to lack of understanding why.
Hey dood.
You totally look like an SLE-Ti in so much crisis that you started functioning as an IEI.
Were you raised by Delta conflictors or something? If so, man, step away from the car. Get your own place, get straight and get true to yourself.
Here are the details of my “analysis”.
First visual impression: Facial structure is basically that of a sensor. Haircut in your right side is a sensing skinhead, haircut on your left hand side is an intuitive stoner. No offense meant, just a very split personality.
So, which one is it? Se-dom or Ni-dom?
Video starts with statement of facts, age, sex, living arrangement, description of facts about family, location of home and date of birth. - All Ti. No process thinking (Te) at all.
“So we were talking about my history” – No, we weren’t, but you want to, rather than your future. Low Ni.
“School and education. I was never really interested in school” Typical of Se sensors.
“I tried AT school, on and off for a while. On and off, throughout my career at school”. School was a series of incidents and accidents. Again, no Te process, no Ni.
Kindergarden through fifth grade, “I put not very much effort into school. My parents valued education.”, “It wasn’t a good way to teach children, I don’t think. I think it was more,,, gonna pound this into you until you get it” (Speech emphasized by sensor fist motion) - personal values conflicting with parents values for six years?
“I was the type that never did homework” – strong Thinking process, already seen it is not Te, so Ti.
“When I was old enough to kind of take ownership of school” SLE willpower.
3:53 “Because it was just so easy. Ha ha.” In my personal experience, I have heard an SLE-Ti say exactly that, with exactly that laugh.
“I was doing this in fifth grade, why am I doing this stuff?” - very low Ni.
“constant A’s in math” – strong Ti.
“it didn’t make sense to me...it didn’t click for me that I was going to an easier school. It just seemed easy to me.” – lack of situational awareness
“…. But then, in, when I started getting in...into…later into..col…into um high school…I started to my gra’ my grades started to drop.” Two competing thought processes are trying to control the speech center here. One thinking process is no longer dominant.
“....I lost motivation, I was incredibly depressed.” – beginning of SLE crisis, emergence of IEI inferior functions.
“Basically what happened there was my imagination completely took over, and what I imagined in my mind became a reality….I no longer observed the outside world.” – a normal day for an IEI, but scary as hell for an SLE.
OK, enough beating the dead horse.
“and then in 2007 I was diagnosed with a mental illness”. Dood, you do not look mentally ill to me. But remember, I am not a medical doctor. To me, you look like an SLE in a long term crisis. When you experience an extended crisis and your normally dominant ego functions are no longer working for you, or are not acceptable to the people in your environment, you can fall back on your inferior functions, but that is like having the parents who are driving a car inside your head ask the little kids in the back seat to take over the driving functions, because the parents can’t drive for some reason. Very little good comes of this. It is just an evolutionarily designed fall-back position, useful in crisis but not meant for long term use.
Finally, you chose the name Quick Twist. You are Quick (with Se and Ti) but have been Twisted into an IEI. And what is that avatar? A girl with her hands nailed to her shoes (no action in the real world - IEI), shadowed by a fighting cock (SLE)?
There is a book that you might want to read for some insight into this, called “Was that really me?” There is also some stuff on the web about the inferior function by a guy named Drenth. Use that considerable Ti, buy the book and look this stuff up.
Then go take some fencing lessons and have some real fun.
Incidentally, I have lived with both SLI and LSE types for many, many fucking years. You are neither. But your parents might be. I will take a wild guess and say that your mother is dominant, either EII or LSE, and your father is also Delta but serves only to back up her opinions. Deltas tend to think there are two ways to think about anything. Their way and the wrong way. And they’re not shy about telling you that you are wrong. So, to recover the person you really are, step away from their influence.
Not a normal day. You got it twisted. If someone (any type) loses touch with reality and cannot distinguish anymore then a doctor should be seen. In those cases it usually takes intervention from someone who knows something is wrong since the person can no longer tell. Most healthy IEI do understand that their imagination is "real" but do not mistake it for physical reality. If I lose sight of it being anything other than an abstract, intuitive, perception of reality then I need help. I can distinguish my inner world from the outer world. Under extreme stress I may disappear into my inner world but I know when it is time to emerge.“Basically what happened there was my imagination completely took over, and what I imagined in my mind became a reality….I no longer observed the outside world.” – a normal day for an IEI, but scary as hell for an SLE.
Edit: I am a believer that Ni is subconsciously informed by Se so an IEI who shuts out the outer world is actually limiting themselves. I know this from an experience. Fe and Ti helps Ni to make sense of and explain their internal processes.
@QuickTwist I did not get any new impressions but thanks for sharing your story. I can relate to some of the things you said. I just don't see Fe in you. Maybe you value it but it is not obvious in the video.
Last edited by Aylen; 04-16-2016 at 09:24 PM.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Obviously it doesn't say that explicitly. I am making an inference from this whole set:
After Jung the terms "extraversion" and "introversion" gradually took on a concretemeaning — extraverts are sociable individuals who are enjoy group activities and socializing, while introverts like to spend large amounts of time by themselves. Based on these definitions, it was found that 75% of Americans are extraverts, and 25% introverts. American culture values extraverted qualities more, and people often feel like they've been given the 'short end of the stick' after receiving their results on extraversion/introversion tests. Usingsocionic definitions of these terms, however, my experience has shown that the numbers are practically equal
About my avatar: Its a guy named mugen from the the anime Samurai Champloo. Its one of my favorites and I identify with mugen in that he seems dumb, but is great at being unpredictable in battle and sometimes even in life.
I never saw that series. I really liked Cowboy Bebop (I can totally identify with being a free-lance bounty hunter, earning a living one job at a time, traveling freely, beholden to no one but the people on the team), but I never found a way to watch Samurai Champloo for free. Also, watching a series is a huge time investment, and I have less and less free time.
Hmm, so you identify with a guy named mugen, who seems dumb but is great at being unpredictable in battle and sometimes even in life. Ever hear of a guy named Zhukov?
Last edited by Adam Strange; 04-17-2016 at 01:04 AM.
I agree that the Fe is not strong, but it is there.
“That’s really all I have to say. Thanks for watching the video, if you could stand watching through all of it – I know it’s so boring watching me – But, um, yeah, thanks for watching the video.” – genuine humility here, Fe
“The purpose of this video is to try and get people to come up with a type for me. Umm, I’m looking for people to come up with…either cognitive functions that they think that I have, or just, maybe even more basic than that, maybe they think I’m a thinker, maybe they think I’m a feeler, maybe they think I’m intuitive, maybe they think I’m sensing, you know, that whole thing.” - Values the opinions of the group, seeks input from the group, Fe.
@Adam Strange, Have to comment on something. In MBTI terms my mother is ENFJ and my father is XSFJ (leaning extrovert). With both its clear to see they both have a lot of Fe and judging. My father uses Si pretty strongly (traditional values and associates by memory) while my mother is much more, shall we say, artistic in the way she handles things giving rise to me thinking she has Fe (values the group) while also Ni in the way she can cut through to the real meaning of what is going on.
I don't know if that helps your analysis but thought it might.
I am not saying he is absolutely SLI. Maybe he is SLE or maybe he is a totally different type than either. I see the same thing in this video that I saw in the last. He seems to value Si more than Se. It was an impression based on comparisons. You presented your analysis as facts but the facts seem off to me.
His situation is now stable so he is looking for input. I think it is cool that he shared what he has gone through but very few male SLE, that I know, would share things, this personal about themselves, in a video. They are more image conscious and their image is strength whether they are or not. He shows some vulnerability (leaning toward Fi), which is cool, but not common for SLE (in a group). It happens though but then they quickly back away from exposing the vulnerable side and will do something that counteracts it. Can be frustrating if you are not used to it.
Sorry, it seems I might be supervising my "supervisor" here and I do notice when I do that. It is mostly when you say something that makes it seem like you know what is going on in an IEI's mind. I understand you have been around a lot of IEI and think you know because of that. I kind of feel bad after but I am probably put off by the presentation of very specific things as "facts" more than impressions based on your own associations. SLE are not dumb but it is sort of what you are implying. It would be different if I thought you were right.
Most people who start a typing thread are here for.... other people's input, so by that logic everyone who wants an opinion on type is Fe or Fe valuing? Use Ni and watch how it evolves, if he stays.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
@QuickTwist: Thanks for the information regarding your parent's types. I stand corrected.
I have a comment about this. Sharing things doesn't really come natural for me. It is a thought out conclusion that I have made that it is better to share what is going on that to keep everything closed up tight. I had a mentor who was very smart who basically was up front about his weaknesses and the result was that people really took a liking to him - at least the people who are at all open to that - and seeing that as a teenager/young adult had an effect on me because I use to be such a private person who had difficulty with social interaction. So it is based on logic that I share, not on feeling.
Ni is the role function in SLI and Ti is the demonstrative so it would be 4D Ti in an SLI. Here is a link. I don't think you come off "dumb", for what it's worth. It is clear you are also a thinker.
http://www.sociotype.com/socionics/types/SLI-ISTp/
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung