Ben Shapiro

[silke]

Keeping with LII-Ne here.

It's like which type would dream of supercomputer guided robot maids to take care of their chores? Ben Shapiro - "When I was a kid, I'd wake up extraordinarily early every morning and turn on the television, scanning for episodes of 'The Jetsons.' For some reason, I loved the notion of a future where there would be flying cars, supercomputers, and most of all, robot maids to take care of the chores."

Going by subjective impressions - never felt any supervision from him; additionally, I have trouble placing together LIEs and attempts to draw convincing arguments based on the Biblical 10 commandments. LIEs are usually not this deeply religious, though of course there may be exceptions. Ben Shapiro - "Socialism violates at least three of the Ten Commandments: It turns government into God, it legalizes thievery and it elevates covetousness. Discussions of income inequality, after all, aren't about prosperity but about petty spite. Why should you care how much money I make, so long as you are happy?"

[Adam Strange]

Keeping with LII-Ne here.

It's like which type would dream of supercomputer guided robot maids to take care of their chores? Ben Shapiro - "When I was a kid, I'd wake up extraordinarily early every morning and turn on the television, scanning for episodes of 'The Jetsons.' For some reason, I loved the notion of a future where there would be flying cars, supercomputers, and most of all, robot maids to take care of the chores."

I used to do the same thing. There was one episode where the family was flying around and they were all playing cards or something while the car flew itself. I thought, "Wow! What a great idea!"
Even then, I knew that it was the idea of the possible that is important. The implementation can eventually follow when technology catches up. But having the idea....That's what is important.
I also liked the sliding sidewalks. I'm still waiting for the signs on cars that send messages to other drivers. And my jet pack, of course.

Going by subjective impressions - never felt any supervision from him; additionally, I have trouble placing together LIEs and attempts to draw convincing arguments based on the Biblical 10 commandments. Ben Shapiro - "Socialism violates at least three of the Ten Commandments: It turns government into God, it legalizes thievery and it elevates covetousness. Discussions of income inequality, after all, aren't about prosperity but about petty spite. Why should you care how much money I make, so long as you are happy?"

My LSE mother used to say this to us kids. Even then, I thought it was bullshit. Inequality is corrosive.
@silke, are you having trouble associating LIE's with a belief in the Bible? I know an LIE who is a total nutjob about religion. Only one, though.

[silke]

I used to do the same thing. There was one episode where the family was flying around and they were all playing cards or something while the car flew itself. I thought, "Wow! What a great idea!"
Even then, I knew that it was the idea of the possible that is important. The implementation can eventually follow when technology catches up. But having the idea....That's what is important.
I also liked the sliding sidewalks. I'm still waiting for the signs on cars that send messages to other drivers. And my jet pack, of course.

And have you ever dreamed of your house being overrun by robot maids fulfilling your every physical need? Doesn't sounds like a Se hidden agenda and certainly not something I would wish for myself. With Se you make yourself strive towards the outcomes rather than wish for this kind of convenient life.

My LSE mother used to say this to us kids. Even then, I thought it was bullshit. Inequality is corrosive.

What about Shapiro's argument here? How effective are any such arguments made from the Bible from an LIE standpoint?

... Ben Shapiro seems a lot like my seventeen year old self. Why didn't he grow up? Is it the money he gets by shilling for the rich? Or the attention?

He happens to be a "child-like" type, and I've noticed the same. Types with pronounced Ne tend to make that youthful impression. Even though he's in his mid-30s he still surprisingly impresses very much like a boy.

[Adam Strange]

And have you ever dreamed of your house being overrun by robot maids fulfilling your every physical need? Doesn't sounds like a Se hidden agenda and certainly not something I would wish for myself. With Se you make yourself strive towards the outcomes rather than wish for this kind of convenient life.

I actually would like to have my house cleaned by robots while I'm away. I've even thought of making everything waterproof and just turning on sprinklers in the ceiling once a week. I actually did make my bathroom waterproof. Correction. I could fill it with water up to the electrical outlets and everything would be fine. Except what leaked out under the door. Haven't solved that yet.

I'm all for striving for outcomes, but I hate doing maintenance. I'm redoing my house, and one big goal is to eliminate sources of dust, grease, and tracked-in dirt.

What about Shapiro's argument here? How effective are any such arguments made from the Bible from an LIE standpoint?

Well, IMO, Biblical logic is often very iffy. The rules are mostly based on experience, which is not the worst guide in the world, but not the best, either. And most of them are aimed at the unquestioned racial survival of a small tribe in the desert, surrounded by enemies and dehumanizing their neighbors in their fight for scarce resources.
The situation has changed radically since then. Resources are plentiful, and those who use the old arguments for the purpose of hoarding resources to themselves are not admitting their very real dependence on others. They are just making a bullshit argument for being selfish.*

He happens to be a "child-like" type, and I've noticed the same. Types with pronounced Ne tend to make that youthful impression. Even though he's in his mid-30s he still impresses very much like a boy.

Could be. I do think he VI's more LIE than LII. That doesn't mean much, though, given my VI track record.


*To be fair, conservatives like Shapiro are much better at building and supporting a small community of like-minded people than liberals are. I just wish they could expand their definition of tribe to include all humans, and perhaps some other life forms, while they are at it.

[CosmicCat]

This is how I visualize Ben Shapiro.
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[Starvish]

This is how I visualize Ben Shapiro.
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why the fuck did I laugh at this