I saved a local copy as well....
I'm working on a universal translator, so I can standardize your formats via a script in excel.
For example ILE, ENTp, Ne-ENTp, Ti-ENTp etc etc etc will all be read as an 1 bin for ILE typing
INXj will be read as 0.5 bin for LII and 0.5 bin for EII
stuff like "is an ass" will be considered a "unique typing" I will include these in statistic reports....
this will probably be the first step in automating a quick method of getting insight from this giant matrix.
Great. I'm gonna include my half-typings too.INXj will be read as 0.5 bin for LII and 0.5 bin for EII
Awesome!Originally Posted by HaveLucidDreamz
„Man can do what he wants but he cannot want what he wants.“
– Arthur Schopenhauer
=pAwesome!
It's not much of a security fix, but what if we made a usergroup and posted the link in that so only people invited into that group could see it? It would at least prevent randoms who just made an account from getting on there and would narrow the pool of people who could vandalize it.
Moonlight will fall
Winter will end
Harvest will come
Your heart will mend
It's not a noob question at all. It seems to have been made read-only for now.
Google Documents already allows private editing. I'd much rather prefer the document to be open though. Even if we do have to deal with the occasional vandalism.
Now that the book is pretty well filled out and everyone has downloaded the latest copy, restoring vandalized pages shouldn't be a problem. Anyone new who wants to contribute, will have to be responsible for backing up their own typings though.
IEE Ne Creative Type
Someand role lovin too. (
) I
too...
!!!!!!
If someone creates the group I'll post the link in
haha, i managed to edit my list just seconds before it became noneditable
i didn't list maritsa as anything and if i did it wouldn't be EII. i have noticed several instances of bad data in my column that probably should belong to a different column. i have no idea why.
That happened to me tooi didn't list maritsa as anything and if i did it wouldn't be EII. i have noticed several instances of bad data in my column that probably should belong to a different column. i have no idea why.
A lot of the data repairs went a bit off due to being just one line off here and there, and things snowballed from there; I've made something of a hidden Google Doc to put things into, though I forgot to hand out all the keys to the batcave because I've been trying to bring all the data together and I never reached a stopping point...
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its under my name, so I'll look into it, for now I'm not touching the thing till this evening
What are you laughing at cunt ?
I got typed Fe ego by someone. Seriously?
You typed yourself Fe-ego at one point.I got typed Fe ego by someone. Seriously?
I'm colour-coding by degree of certainty - green = pretty sure, yellow = somewhat sure, red = wild guess.cool.
But obviously it's not serious if I was only trying it on for size. I think everyone tries on different types because the definitions are all haywire, and when wondering if I was IEI I didn't think any descriptions of Fe or Beta even fit me, just the filatova imaginative style of description to Ni. Am I actually IEI or is it just a joke typing?You typed yourself Fe-ego at one point.I got typed Fe ego by someone. Seriously?
Who the fuck fucked the spreadshit again ?
Oh I see, well whoever did that is as sharp as a beach ball.
I think we out number them, but regardless if you have an idea for controls please let me know, I'll probably save a copy at least everyday and especially when significant progress is made, some info may be lost, but most of it will be intact regardless of the attacks.
How will you face Indiana CPig when he's back from the wilderness?
HOW DO I EDIT THIS
What do these signs mean—, etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason,
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
YOU CAN'T
Moonlight will fall
Winter will end
Harvest will come
Your heart will mend
Noob question here... can anyone guide me as to how to edit the sheet in the first place?
How do I not make it read-only?
언제나.
my self-typing isn't SEI. I don't really have a self-typing. I alternate in my mind and so any self-typing I may say at any time is only at that time and then it changes to something else or to nothing at all. And currently it is nothing at all.
I'm just saying this because I couldn't edit the list (and I feel misrepresented as a human being and that nobody understands me, wah). But really I feel sad about not having a self-typing and that's why I try to have one sometimes. So perhaps if my self-typing is SEI then at least there is one. But I feel a better self-typing for me would be: AFEOFJAOIEFLASDKFJSAKGJASOGA
(PS: I like the idea of all of this.)
Anyways, I've saved the list as of 7:26 AM (in Ohio), August 8, 2011; I'm manually going over the types to standardize their presentation to make it possible for a script to run them easier! If my efforts don't help, then I'll still try to keep grinding on through this monster; don't know if I'll be able to, but I'll be more done than before...
Of course, there will and should be versions of the list past that point in time, so keep on going
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This is becoming a one big joke, the spreadshit looks like candy plus, haha, what happened to "consensus" ? Sank like the titanic, I guess.
I found this a little interesting in terms of a social experiment, people weren't capable of handling the free and open format, eventually the majority started equilibriating towards a secure and closed format.
A bit ironic that Ashton was the one to impose structure.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
OH WELL I GUESS I WAS JUST LYING
YEAH
MAKES SENSE
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
Frankly, the only disadvantage of a closed project is that the inviter may not always be around, or people will be too lazy with the process. Neither of those are significant enough compared to the pointlessness of tediously and repeatedly giving input only to have it vandalized so easily, when all that can be prevented by simple exclusion.
(i)NTFS
An ILI at rest tends to remain at rest
and an ILI in motion is probably not an ILI
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My work on Inert/Contact subtypes
Socionics Visual Identification(V.I.) Database
Socionics Tests Database
Comprehensive List of Socionics Sites
Fidei Defensor
Closed projects take energy by some sort of administrator to keep them alive, the moment the administration quits the thing falls apart. If the administration stays up to take care of basic day to day details it is usually successful.Frankly, the only disadvantage of a closed project is that the inviter may not always be around, or people will be too lazy with the process. Neither of those are significant enough compared to the pointlessness of tediously and repeatedly giving input only to have it vandalized so easily, when all that can be prevented by simple exclusion.
Open projects don't require energy of some administrator to keep them alive, and thus have an easier time existing in the absence of an explicit administrator. Although they have a large chance of failing due to apathy of the community or exploitation from outside powers.
Hi,
I am too dumb for spreadsheets and Google Docs. Please someone add my Enemagram (lol) self-typing as 5w6 sx/sp or whatever Ashton says.
Thanks in advance,
"Indiana" CPig
(wtf, ineffable?)
August 8, 2011, 7:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time typing list (raw)Anyways, I've saved the list as of 7:26 AM (in Ohio), August 8, 2011; I'm manually going over the types to standardize their presentation to make it possible for a script to run them easier! If my efforts don't help, then I'll still try to keep grinding on through this monster; don't know if I'll be able to, but I'll be more done than before...
Of course, there will and should be versions of the list past that point in time, so keep on going
August 8, 2011, 7:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time typing list (standardized)
The raw list is exactly that - a raw list.
The standardized list has all typings in three letter format. The flavor typings have been omitted in that version so that the data could be crunched automatically somehow...
I'm either going to try to shit out some massive amounts of
P.S. I used the lists in Ashton's batcave; they've been more stable, so I went with those ones
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Lol I'm just going to write a vba module to loop through all the columns, paste them into a single column as strings, remove duplicates then move them around intelligently into groups/domains, after which I'll set up a matrix that has one column for a standardized nomenclature, and 16 other columns that gives a certain type a weight 0 to 1 with a sum of 1. So someone using "alpha" will have all alpha types with weight 0.25.August 8, 2011, 7:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time typing list (raw)Anyways, I've saved the list as of 7:26 AM (in Ohio), August 8, 2011; I'm manually going over the types to standardize their presentation to make it possible for a script to run them easier! If my efforts don't help, then I'll still try to keep grinding on through this monster; don't know if I'll be able to, but I'll be more done than before...
Of course, there will and should be versions of the list past that point in time, so keep on going
August 8, 2011, 7:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time typing list (standardized)
The raw list is exactly that - a raw list.
The standardized list has all typings in three letter format. The flavor typings have been omitted in that version so that the data could be crunched automatically somehow...
I'm either going to try to shit out some massive amounts of
P.S. I used the lists in Ashton's batcave; they've been more stable, so I went with those ones
I'll use this table/matrix as an index to lookup wieghtings when doing statistical calculations.
Awesome!Lol I'm just going to write a vba module to loop through all the columns, paste them into a single column as strings, remove duplicates then move them around intelligently into groups/domains, after which I'll set up a matrix that has one column for a standardized nomenclature, and 16 other columns that gives a certain type a weight 0 to 1 with a sum of 1. So someone using "alpha" will have all alpha types with weight 0.25.
August 8, 2011, 7:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time typing list (raw)
August 8, 2011, 7:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time typing list (standardized)
The raw list is exactly that - a raw list.
The standardized list has all typings in three letter format. The flavor typings have been omitted in that version so that the data could be crunched automatically somehow...
I'm either going to try to shit out some massive amounts of
P.S. I used the lists in Ashton's batcave; they've been more stable, so I went with those ones
I'll use this table/matrix as an index to lookup wieghtings when doing statistical calculations.
As far as weightings are concerned, I started doing things by going that route, and the open-ended typings wobbled up the results severely once I got to Airborne and Aiss (I didn't exactly make it far
There's lots of really loose typings afoot, sometimes to the point of having 12 out of the 16 types chosen as a possibility. Open-ended typings are great to have, and due to their nature, should probably be less of a deciding factor towards the end results. Having 16 of 16 types equally chosen and explicitly stated as such would weight each type with 0.0625 of a vote for every type; having 0 of 16 types equally chosen and explicitly stated as such would weight each type with 0.0000 of a vote for each type. The following should correct all of this:
if:
X = raw typing value
Y = weighted typing value
then:
Y = (16/15)X - 1/15
Gonna make a table to show how this all goes down:
If nothing else, could such a thing be included in addition to the raw data weights and the results brought on by them?
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That's not what you said the other night.
Sounds like someone got to find out the Colonel's secret special blend of spices
Anyone got any pics?
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Nobody seems to notice, so I just want to tell you that you can now give everybody an Enneagram typing. It's a seperate sheet in the "restricted" spreadsheet.
„Man can do what he wants but he cannot want what he wants.“
– Arthur Schopenhauer
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