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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Maritsa, I love this pic! You both look very happy and connected. You, of course I have no doubt are INFj. You not only appear so but more importantly to me, you have all the characteristics. And though I do not consider myself great at VI, I am not thinking ESTj at all for your sweetheart. On VI alone, my thought is ExFx.
But also from bits you have said here, he never sounds to have the marks of LSEs I know. I don't see you describing that constant drive to work and accomplish, that juggling of overtime hours with seemingly insatiable appetite for more and more productive work, more involved projects, hobbies and occupations, which is the LSE stand-out thing I see in my LSE brother and also a longtime LSE (woman) friend. However, he looks kind and protective - I like that - and its good for you.
If he were not your Dual, but some other compatible type, then, why not? I can think of many good, true long-lasting, happy, fulfilling marriages (my parents are one) that are non-Dual. Commitment, effort and of course love and attraction can make anything work - even Conflictors! Though that might be the hardest.
Yet, even the difficult Conflictor relations can work. I know three longtime conflictor-couples (in each case, married, with children) who are making it work great, even though its been a rocky road at times. (Two are femaleESTj w/ maleINTp, one is female INFj w/ male ESTp) I think their long history of holding it together in hard times is making them want to stick with what they invested in. Certainly commitment to marriage vows, so no affairs*, makes a huge difference in these couples, too. They have built something with hard work and endurance, and they do have some good times to recall, too. And their children are blessed.
* ALL six of the spouses in these three couples had families of origin where their parents were true to each other - longtime, happy marriages of rock-solid commitment. I think it helps in hard times to have grown up with that example. Because if one decides to seek happiness elsewhere in unhappy times, its a LOT harder later to heal the rift and stay together.
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P.S. I am not seeing ESTp in his VI! (phew!)
"A man with a definite belief always appears bizarre, because he does not change with the world; he has climbed into a fixed star, and the earth whizzes below him like a zoetrope."
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"Having a clear faith, based on the creed of the Church, is often labeled today as fundamentalism... Whereas relativism, which is letting oneself be tossed and swept along
by every wind of teaching, looks like the only
attitude acceptable to today's standards." - Pope Benedict the XVI, "The Dictatorship of Relativism"
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He's LSE. I know his face is peculiar, like an F type. It confused me too at first encounter. but if you saw other pictures of him, he's stern and stands upright at 6'5" he's been into all sorts of dynamic sports since he was born which include flying airplanes, motorcycle driving, fixing and repairing about anything including plumbing and appliances; he can clean and detail a car like no yesterday as well as other things. His Ej temperament begs him to do things in a planned fashion and he often talks about the plan of events in the morning, early morning or in the evening when we're relaxing.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
"A man with a definite belief always appears bizarre, because he does not change with the world; he has climbed into a fixed star, and the earth whizzes below him like a zoetrope."
........ G. ........... K. ............... C ........ H ........ E ...... S ........ T ...... E ........ R ........ T ........ O ........ N ........
"Having a clear faith, based on the creed of the Church, is often labeled today as fundamentalism... Whereas relativism, which is letting oneself be tossed and swept along
by every wind of teaching, looks like the only
attitude acceptable to today's standards." - Pope Benedict the XVI, "The Dictatorship of Relativism"
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“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Since Kate Moss's temperament is obvious from the interview as fidgets a lot while seated she's Ep temperament hence IEE and FINAL
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Agreed, duality ain't everything. I think it's more related to instinct stackings and attachment styles. If those two are favorable then the actual type won't matter as much, though of course you're also going to want to hit the lotto and have everything match up. Which is, IMO, a very unlikely scenario. Hope for it yes, search for it yes, but please, do settle if you land a mostly favorable outcome. Fairy Tale romances are a lie, endlessly searching for one is a recipe for loneliness, and people shouldn't be alone.
I disagree. Hold up for one because it might then change your life. It just might not last forever, but then again, nothing is this world was meant to last that long.
Fairy-tale romances are absolutely real. Is it not art that imitates life? Not the other way around?
That truth has become lost in our modern media-saturated cultures. To much romance overload has created a generation of cynics. Being a realist, you must also take into account that romantic love can also be just as real as anything else.
Just wait till the big R-word hits you.
Yeah, well, people still win the lotto, but you're a fool if you base your life around hitting the jackpot. People's standards are too friggin' high, good, honest, real people are being abandonded by their SO's because "I'm not happy" (i.e. this other person excites my unhealthy attachment style more than the current stable SO does). Many times relationships aren't even pursued. They're "out of my league", or "I'm not good enough for them", and other such bullshit. And even if approached the other party won't even consider it. They see the approach as a measure of desperation and just reject it out of hand.
It's all a bunch of bullshit, I just hope people realize this in time before our species goes extinct and/or filled with morons who don't know the first damned thing about real intimacy (which will also lead to extinction).
@darya Drew is ESI
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html