Work?

[idiot]

I don't know why but I'm slightly curious on what everyone does for work.

I'll start, I'm currently a uni student and I will be going into the tech industry (either software engineering/IT related or something like firmware/robotics).

[Aster]

I don’t really work work. I’m a stay at home mom for 17 years. Some call it a full time job but Mainly I stay at home and try not to lose my mind too much. Before that I only had one job working at Macys as a sales clerk for like 4 months before I got tired of it and quit. I’m a bum. lol. No…but I do do things. Productive things. I do a lot of laundry. But I don’t think I do enough productive things. Not like ESE level or anything

I do have regrets about not getting my degree. I dropped out my sophomore year in college.

[Adam Strange]

I have a small consulting company which also, sometimes, makes bespoke things for customers. You could say that, at essence, I solve problems* in exchange for money.

My life has been a steady search for more and more interesting problems to solve, for increasingly larger amounts of money.


*Like this guy:



Winston Wolfe is an IEE's idea of an LIE, and Tarantino was spot-on in his characterization. In my last job, after a quick evaluation of the problem (ballistic missile's inertial sensor is not reading correctly) but before I started, I asked for a cup of strong coffee. Then I solved the problem. For money.

[idiot]

That sounds really interesting. I want to get into contracting/consulting too but first I'm looking to build a good foundation

You should write a book or something going into all the details of the problems you solved. Instead of making it a narrative though, maybe go into the technical details and specifics. That's more interesting, I would definitely read that. However, maybe you're not allowed to talk about some of the problems

[misanthropex6]

Into translation and investments. I love the kind of work that I don't have a boss bugging me about shit to do. Money is the objective and it's being met!

[Adam Strange]

That sounds really interesting. I want to get into contracting/consulting too but first I'm looking to build a good foundation

You should write a book or something going into all the details of the problems you solved. Instead of making it a narrative though, maybe go into the technical details and specifics. That's more interesting, I would definitely read that. However, maybe you're not allowed to talk about some of the problems

All you need to have in order to start consulting is a customer. You don't have to be pretty or be the smartest guy on the block. You only need customers. Hopefully, you can solve their problems most of the time. And hopefully, you can recognize the customers who will waste your time and not pay you.

As for writing a book, I'm not going to do that. For one thing, I have no idea how I'd make it interesting. For another, most of my customers would not like having their work exposed to the world. For a third, I sometimes work on things that are classified, or which have military applications.
One example of work that has military uses is the design of a telescope that looks at the earth to map everything on the ground. My company designed the prototype for Google's telescope. Our team published a lightweight, general paper on the project, and shortly after that, I received an invitation for an all-expense-paid plus honorarium trip to Taiwan to give a talk about the design. I called a friend in the government to tell them this, and they said "You probably shouldn't do that." I asked "Why not?" They replied, "You probably shouldn't do that."
So, I don't discuss the details of anything anymore. I just work for the money, and to stay interested in doing something with my life.

[idiot]

I don't know why but I found this very inspiring.

I've had to scrap one long term goal recently and I've been kinda dealing with the aftermath.
But I can feel my spirits coming back.
Thanks.

[godslave]

[timber]

Mostly certified manual hand tree faller living and working in British Columbia. Also self-employed contractor owner/operator of a federal incorporation, paying and taxing my own money in which I invoice clients. Also operating under my own work health insurance number and third party liability. I do my own book keeping using quickbooks software, but accountants are working on my year end corporate taxes.

Logging, right of way clearing, danger tree falling, wildfire tree falling, survey line cutting, hydro-line clearing (electricity is called hydro here as its all from rivers), certified danger tree assessor, chainsaw operating.

Travel and work all over Western and Northern Canada, British Columbia, Alberta, North West Territories, Yukon.

Love the work, love flying in the helicopters, love being outdoors, love seeing things and using my hands and brain. Hate the lonely lifestyle of working away from home. Its difficult to have a proper relationship, I desire closeness, but the career sacrifices are worth it. My colleagues and experiences have deeply impacted me and shaped who and what I am.

[FDG]

I was a translator, cyclist, university researcher, salesman, now consultant for acquisitions and business dev (I listed my paid jobs. The most impactful job has been unpaid and that´s been husband). Cyclist was definitely the job I liked the most, even though it was the hardest by a very long shot. Uni researcher was the most intellectually satisfying, my current job the best paid. Idk what to think about it overall, I mostly followed my natural interests.

I am actually not bad at hard physical labor but where I live it´s badly paid so I don´t do it. I completely suck at fine skills.

[Northstar]

For the last 2+ years, chief technology officer in a high tech startup company, basically leading all the r&d work but also the leading the delivery projects side as the person with most hands-on experience in heavy industry.
Before that, a few years as a lead engineer in a big corporation, leading a small team of engineers in r&d projects, robotics and underground mining.
Spent a couple of years testing embedded hydraulic control systems, a couple of years as an engine performance expert for large marine and power plant engines, and before that a couple of years as a test engineer for them. There's more but in the same vein. Been also doing engine control unit performance mapping as a side income for some 15 years.

The most common position for me seems to have been the leadership of a small engineering team of 5-10 people. Probably because I have relatively wide engineering knowledge and don't hesitate to state my opinions in a manner that makes people trust my competence in the matter and accept my decisions on how to solve a problem and how to distribute the work.

Also I like big machines, combustion engines, heavy industry and industrial robots.

[The Reality Denialist]

I hate the idea to work for money... so I got into fancy pants techie uni with high scores but decided to go for less fancy pants uni where you just like to think about things that other apply in the real world.


I guess this has been my trajectory in a nutshell. I have done and learned lots of stuff but I don't rally materialize anything. I think DSM called this masochistic/ self-defeating personalty once but whatever.

[godslave]

 

Working is too Hard
[Refrain:]
Working is too hard
And stealing isn't nice
Asking for favours
isn't something
I can do
Every day that I live,
People ask, what do I live off of?
I say that I live off of love
And I hope to live to be old

I take my violin
And I grab my bow
And I play my old waltz
To get my friends to dance
You know my dear friends
Life is way too short
To be hard on yourself
So let's go on and dance tonight

Refrain

I make music
I do it almost every night
After wandering about every which way
And then singing in whisky bars
And sometimes, you know
I'd like to let go, and be on my way
But I came back tonight
For the pleasure of singing

[Refrain] (x2)

[idiot]

Sounds like you've done everything

Physical labor (cyclist), academic, social (salesman).
A very interesting life!

[Ikite iru]

I was a translator, cyclist, university researcher, salesman, now consultant for acquisitions and business dev (I listed my paid jobs. The most impactful job has been unpaid and that´s been husband). Cyclist was definitely the job I liked the most, even though it was the hardest by a very long shot. Uni researcher was the most intellectually satisfying, my current job the best paid. Idk what to think about it overall, I mostly followed my natural interests.

I am actually not bad at hard physical labor but where I live it´s badly paid so I don´t do it. I completely suck at fine skills.

You have done all these things and yet you think you are not an irrational type?

I have been doing the same job pretty much my entire life. Pays ok, I'm doing something for society and I can do the job in my sleep while working on hobbies. What more do I really want. I could easily be unemployed but that doesn't pay rent. I have been thinking about quitting and just living a minimal life for a while now. This society is gonna crumble soon, no point in pretending to care

[FDG]

You have done all these things and yet you think you are not an irrational type?

I have been doing the same job pretty much my entire life. Pays ok, I'm doing something for society and I can do the job in my sleep while working on hobbies. What more do I really want. I could easily be unemployed but that doesn't pay rent. I have been thinking about quitting and just living a minimal life for a while now. This society is gonna crumble soon, no point in pretending to care

I am not an irrational type. I had a yearly contract as a cyclist and did my job until the end, when it ended I changed. In the meanwhile I was going to university, when the cycling contract ended I applied to be a researcher and got accepted. After the 3 year contract ended and the professor did not have the budget to renew it, I got that job as a salesman. After many years, someone I knew asked me if I wanted to do my current job, and I said yes. Of course I am EJ and not IJ so my rationality is external: if a contract ends, I will do something else.

I have also been unemployed for some months some time ago, no problem, I could agree with you in principle, but sometimes working can also be fun and interesting.

[Ikite iru]

I am not an irrational type. I had a yearly contract as a cyclist and did my job until the end, when it ended I changed. In the meanwhile I was going to university, when the cycling contract ended I applied to be a researcher and got accepted. After the 3 year contract ended and the professor did not have the budget to renew it, I got that job as a salesman. After many years, someone I knew asked me if I wanted to do my current job, and I said yes. Of course I am EJ and not IJ so my rationality is external: if a contract ends, I will do something else.

I have also been unemployed for some months some time ago, no problem, I could agree with you in principle, but sometimes working can also be fun and interesting.

I mean you can think what you want to think but I am not nearly as flexible about my profession as you are so I have pretty huge doubts about you being a rational type.

[FDG]

I mean you can think what you want to think but I am not nearly as flexible about my profession as you are so I have pretty huge doubts about you being a rational type.

That's because you never tried. Also consider that technically LIEs have 4D Te and Ne. So being able to learn many professions should be one of their main strong points. Rational and irrational is mostly about changing your decisions. I never changed my decisions, my contracts simply ended and were not renewed and/or I found something with better pay. Actually it was mostly irrational types who decided not to renew my contract. Rationals always renewed. So now you have your answer, irrationals caused me to change jobs, mostly Se dominants (most of which i think belong in jail).

[Adam Strange]

.... consider that technically LIEs have 4D Te and Ne. So being able to learn many professions should be one of their main strong points.

Lol, @FDG. This is very true.

Earlier in this thread, I stated what work I do now, but your post got me thinking that people might be interested in work histories, too.
When I was twelve years old, my parents moved to a house with a bigger lawn and they inherited a riding mower. It was my job to cut the grass and maintain the mower, which I did. I also got to thinking that I could make extra money by mowing the neighbor's lawns, so I went out and got contracts (agreements) to cut the lawns in the area during the summer. Out of my earnings, I paid for gasoline and mower repair parts.

My first job working for someone else was as a page in the city library after school at age 15. I was too young to be covered by the employment laws, so they paid me less than minimum wage. I decided that the pay didn't make up for the loss of studying time, so I quit after a few months. They offered me more money at that point, but it was too late. From that, I learned an important lesson about how much you should pay people to keep them, and when.

My next job was in a screw machine factory during a summer at age 17, and it was eye-opening. It paid well enough for me to buy a Bridgeport milling machine, but I had to burn my clothes at the end because the oil smell would not wash out.

Then, in college, I worked as an astronomical researcher (took images of M-type stars), worked in the Moen Faucet factory, worked as a welder, worked in a cyclotron, and worked as a tool-and-die-maker, all during the summers.

After I graduated, I worked as a lead machinist, as a grinder-hand, as the foreman of a machine shop, as a production manager for a company which made machine tools, as an overseas machine installer, and then as head of Research and Development for a technical company.

I then started consulting, in order to make enough money to start a production company based on an idea that I had. I then started that company, and we got a million-dollar order to produce machines for a customer, but then I argued with my partners about my compensation and the company went out of business, messily. Both partners are dead now. One drank himself to death shortly after that, and the other died alone because he was an asshole. Also, he was mean to his wife and cheap to his employees. Super bad sign. The lesson I learned from this is that you don't have partners (unless you would marry them, and even then, be super careful), and you never give up control of the stock until you want to sell out.

I then started a third company which designs optical and mechanical things for whomever can legally pay the most. This company has been fairly successful. Third time is the charm, right? I don't question my customer's morals, but I do insist that they have morals, if only with respect to paying their debts. Lannister types, so to speak.

I haven't listed all my jobs here, but I had fourteen jobs before I started my first company. The jobs were all different, because I wanted to find out what I could and could not do, and what I did and did not enjoy.

I kind of took the same approach to girl friends, but that is another story.

[FDG]

Lol, @FDG. This is very true.

Earlier in this thread, I stated what work I do now, but your post got me thinking that people might be interested in work histories, too.
When I was twelve year old, my parents moved to a house with a bigger lawn and they inherited a riding mower. It was my job to cut the grass and maintain the mower, which I did. I also got to thinking that I could make extra money by mowing neighbor lawns, so I went out and got contracts (agreements) to cut the lawns in the area during the summer. Out of my earnings, I paid for gasoline and mower repair parts.

My first job working for someone else was as a page in the library after school at age 15. I was too young to be covered by the employment laws, so they paid me less than minimum wage. I decided that the pay didn't make up for the loss of studying time, so I quit after a few months. They offered me more money at that point, but it was too late. From that, I learned an important lesson about how much you should pay people to keep them, and when.

My next job was in a screw machine factory during a summer at age 17, and it was eye-opening. It paid well enough for me to buy a Bridgeport milling machine, but I had to burn my clothes at the end because the oil smell would not wash out.

Then, in college, I worked as an astronomical researcher (took images of M-type stars), worked in the Moen Faucet factory, worked as a welder, worked in a cyclotron, and worked as a tool-and-die-maker, all during the summers.

After I graduated, I worked as a lead machinist, as a grinder-hand, as the foreman of a machine shop, as a production manager for a company which made machine tools, as an overseas machine installer, and then as head of Research and Development for a technical company.

I then started consulting, in order to make enough money to start a production company based on an idea that I had. I then started that company, and we got a million-dollar order to produce machines for a customer, but then I argued with my partners about my compensation and the company went out of business, messily. Both partners are dead now. One drank himself to death shortly after that, and the other died alone because he was an asshole. Also, he was mean to his wife and cheap to his employees. Super bad sign. The lesson I learned from this is that you don't have partners (unless you would marry them, and even then, be super careful), and you never give up control of the stock until you want to sell out.

I then started a third company which designs optical and mechanical things for whomever can legally pay the most. This company has been fairly successful. Third time is the charm, right? I don't question my customer's morals, but I do insist that they have morals, if only with respect to paying their debts. Lannister types, so to speak.

I haven't listed all my jobs here, but I had fourteen jobs before I started my first company. The jobs were all different, because I wanted to find out what I could and could not do, and what I did and did not enjoy.

I kind of took the same approach to girl friends, but that is another story.

Yeah...idk, i have had people pegging me as 'unserious' because I had like, 10 different jobs since now that I am 36. Idk I told them, I was just getting paid to do something...

Relationships are for me something completely different and I always longed for a lifelong partner.

[Hope]

Artist, Bank Accountant, Photographer (as a favor), customer service, right now at the human resources dept few hrs per month and full time mom of 1.

[Muira]

Back when I was still working, I had many hustles. Specifically art commissions by the people around me(paintings, portraits, etc), tutor/part-time teacher for languages and art, photography(for small businesses) and editing, managing my mother's business through resourcing, helping her break down on ways to make profits, etc.


But how much I made is disclosed, now I remain inactive because I'm spending my extra time on actually studying the stock market and its correlations to the social/political culture today, how to build a business, investments on crypto, how to better tell when a business will most likely be successful, etc.

[Adam Strange]

Yeah...idk, i have had people pegging me as 'unserious' because I had like, 10 different jobs since now that I am 36. Idk I told them, I was just getting paid to do something...

I'm the same way. I tell people that I can't keep a job, but the truth is, as soon as I learn whatever I took that job to learn, I try to give my job away so I can move on to the next job.
I never called myself a "Production Manager", or any other title. I was always just me, working as a Production Manger. Faking it, most of the time.

Relationships are for me something completely different and I always longed for a lifelong partner.

I, too, have always wanted a lifelong partner. I was just unlucky in my start, and late to the real party. Now that I know the kind of person whom I want, she's already married to some ILI or an LSI, and wondering why things aren't turning out so well for her. Exactly as I did during my marriage to an SLI.

[Ikite iru]

I'm the same way. I tell people that I can't keep a job, but the truth is, as soon as I learn whatever I took that job to learn, I try to give my job away so I can move on to the next job.

That's the irrational dichotomy. I think you and FDG have a very similar type and subtype, somewhat similar like sol and nifl, but you ain't LIE

[Squirrel]

I'm an economics university student , my college focuses specifically on microeconomics

My main focus at the present time is to learn skills that will benefit me in college and beyond , in addition to learning languages, I'll also learn other skills that aren't related to my fields of study to form an additional source of income if necessary.

As for work, if I don't get married after college, I'll work, but if I'll get married, I may or may not work depending on the type of person I marry : does he want to be the only breadwinner for the family or not

[FDG]

That's the irrational dichotomy. I think you and FDG have a very similar type and subtype, somewhat similar like sol and nifl, but you ain't LIE

It's actually written in the original LIEs descriptions that they often change jobs so...idk

[Ikite iru]

It's actually written in the original LIEs descriptions that they often change jobs so...idk

Personally, I wouldn't place much value on type descriptions, and I'm saying that as someone who is currently writing one myself, although that one will be a bit more unconventional. How many people of a certain type has a socionics researcher realistically observed while writing the descriptions? 100? That would already be a lot, and most of them have been written before the internet, and there are millions of people. If every LIE would be an entrepreneur that tries out twenty jobs, then typing others would be so easy that typology should be mainstream by now, but according to Jung rationals are the ones that always stay the same, while irrationals need regular changes in their lives, so this claim that LIE jump around a lot seems at odds with the theory

[FDG]

Personally, I wouldn't place much value on type descriptions, and I'm saying that as someone who is currently writing one myself, although that one will be a bit more unconventional. How many people of a certain type has a socionics researcher realistically observed while writing the descriptions? 100? That would already be a lot, and most of them have been written before the internet, and there are millions of people. If every LIE would be an entrepreneur that tries out twenty jobs, then typing others would be so easy that typology should be mainstream by now, but according to Jung rationals are the ones that always stay the same, while irrationals need regular changes in their lives, so this claim that LIE jump around a lot seems at odds with the theory

Well to give you an example I changed jobs but I without changing place of residence or wife and without debt. For me basically it was about - i go back home where everything is the same and I have a safe money cushion - when I am outside I can look for the best opportunities. It's actually a fairly low risk strategy.

[Anglas]

I had like 7 jobs, some shitty warehouse jobs, i worked as courier, did some stuff at cemetery, after that wood industry and now i work as engineer for the laser cutting company.

[Northstar]

Personally, I wouldn't place much value on type descriptions, and I'm saying that as someone who is currently writing one myself, although that one will be a bit more unconventional. How many people of a certain type has a socionics researcher realistically observed while writing the descriptions? 100? That would already be a lot, and most of them have been written before the internet, and there are millions of people. If every LIE would be an entrepreneur that tries out twenty jobs, then typing others would be so easy that typology should be mainstream by now, but according to Jung rationals are the ones that always stay the same, while irrationals need regular changes in their lives, so this claim that LIE jump around a lot seems at odds with the theory

Personally, I wouldn't put any value on anything Alive writes.

[Ikite iru]

as a lead engineer in a big corporation

One example of work that has military uses is the design of a telescope

i work as engineer

software engineering

there's a group of IEI that have a higher propensity for designs of things or objects. these people are very different to artistic IEI that spend their time as artists or comedians and do not see much value in the concept of "work". these two subcategories do not get along in relationships. seen it time and time again.

I hate the idea to work for money

I only had one job working at Macys as a sales clerk for like 4 months before I got tired of it and quit. I’m a bum. lol.

it's also pretty clear that the first category views itself as logical types. adam strange, fdg, chriscorey. such people tend to get along better with each other. I suspect that this tendency might also apply to the other types as I see myself as more of an artistic person and the people who consider themselves "logical" on this site are the ones that I do not really get along with or care about

another thing I have noticed is that in relationships of "ethical IEI" and "logical IEI" , the former tends to see the latter as evil, while the latter often accuses the former of narcissism.

[idiot]

there's a group of IEI that have a higher propensity for designs of things or objects. these people are very different to artistic IEI that spend their time as artists or comedians and do not see much value in the concept of "work". these two subcategories do not get along in relationships. seen it time and time again.

Good to know that IEIs, just like every other type, participate in a wide variety of professions. Even within engineering teams there are a lot of different roles, so you aren't saying anything of substance.

Are there types that you think only do a certain type of work? Are IEIs the only types that do both technical and non technical work? You see yourself as an LII and consider yourself artistic, do you think that technical LIIs don't exist?

Also, I don't understand why if you don't care about the group of IEIs, you constantly go around trying to change their opinions on their type.
Also, where the hell are you seeing these relationships between IEIs? Is your sample size of IEIs mostly on this forum? That seems highly flawed. If it's because you think every celebrity is an IEI, then you have not met any of them personally, or know how they act outside of a camera. If you rely on visual ID, then you don't know how a lot of people on this forum look like, so I question how you get to your conclusions at all. If you think that being on this forum makes someone an IEI, I question why you don't type yourself as an IEI.

[Ikite iru]

Good to know that IEIs, just like every other type, participate in a wide variety of professions. Even within engineering teams there are a lot of different roles, so you aren't saying anything of substance.

Are there types that you think only do a certain type of work? Are IEIs the only types that do both technical and non technical work? You see yourself as an LII and consider yourself artistic, do you think that technical LIIs don't exist?

Also, I don't understand why if you don't care about the group of IEIs, you constantly go around trying to change their opinions on their type.
Also, where the hell are you seeing these relationships between IEIs? Is your sample size of IEIs mostly on this forum? That seems highly flawed. If it's because you think every celebrity is an IEI, then you have not met any of them personally, or know how they act outside of a camera. If you rely on visual ID, then you don't know how a lot of people on this forum look like, so I question how you get to your conclusions at all. If you think that being on this forum makes someone an IEI, I question why you don't type yourself as an IEI.

Obviously I do think that technical LII exist. I've met LII who thought Elon Musk is a genius and I couldn't relate to them. Many people here think that there's 16 types and that's it. ST like cars, NF people. There's a lot of low resolution thinking here and I do think that what I say is of substance because of that. I'm unsure if I am really persistent about changing other people's types. I might challenge someone's reason sometimes but I ultimatively do not care about your type. It doesn't change anything about my life whether you think you are an SLE or IEI. I find this discussion a bit boring so I'm gonna stop here. All I'm noticing is that I seem to get along better with certain people of a type than others. Having lived in berlin for 10 years, I have met all kinds of people

[The Reality Denialist]

there's a group of IEI that have a higher propensity for designs of things or objects. these people are very different to artistic IEI that spend their time as artists or comedians and do not see much value in the concept of "work". these two subcategories do not get along in relationships. seen it time and time again.





it's also pretty clear that the first category views itself as logical types. adam strange, fdg, chriscorey. such people tend to get along better with each other. I suspect that this tendency might also apply to the other types as I see myself as more of an artistic person and the people who consider themselves "logical" on this site are the ones that I do not really get along with or care about

another thing I have noticed is that in relationships of "ethical IEI" and "logical IEI" , the former tends to see the latter as evil, while the latter often accuses the former of narcissism.

I see much value in work... but work for money is just mindless and crushing. Yeah... I have worked 15 hour days for several months in a row.... as soon as I see the monetary benefit, I tend to lose interest.

[Ikite iru]

I see much value in work... but work for money is just mindless and crushing. Yeah... I have worked 15 hour days for several months in a row.... as soon as I see the monetary benefit, I tend to lose interest.

I think there's just different subcategories of a type and some get along better than others. I don't think you are an artistic person, but I think your subsection gets along better with the artistic variant than the concrete mechanical people here who think they are oh so logical and need to point that out all the time. I really do not know how many categories there are, but I have no doubt that they influence ITR significantly.

The artist and or poet might think we are all humans and have one world and common goals. The rationalist thinks there are significant IQ and cultural differences that lead to tensions. I don't think such perspectives are compatible with each other long-term, as they are fundamentally different views on the world, to name an example

[Adam Strange]

I see much value in work... but work for money is just mindless and crushing. Yeah... I have worked 15 hour days for several months in a row.... as soon as I see the monetary benefit, I tend to lose interest.

I'd say that sociotypes who value Te also value money, and the sociotypes who value Ti tend to not value money as much as they value prestige.

I was talking to an ILE friend of mine this morning about "days of rest" during a week. I said that we, as a social group, are moving towards a system in which we only work perhaps three days a week.
He replied that people who work three days a week would be working those three days for money, and the other four days, they would be working for curiosity. He continued and said that the whole system of working for money is bullshit, and was invented by people who want to turn other people into slaves, and the entire capitalistic system should be eliminated.
I kind of agree with him, even though he's a lot like Rick Sanchez and would wreck every universe as a joke.

[The Reality Denialist]

I'd say that sociotypes who value Te also value money, and the sociotypes who value Ti tend to not value money as much as they value prestige.

I was talking to an ILE friend of mine this morning about "days of rest" during a week. I said that we, as a social group, are moving towards a system in which we only work perhaps three days a week.
He replied that people who work three days a week would be working those three days for money, and the other four days, they would be working for curiosity. He continued and said that the whole system of working for money is bullshit, and was invented by people who want to turn other people into slaves, and the entire capitalistic system should be eliminated.
I kind of agree with him, even though he's a lot like Rick Sanchez and would wreck every universe as a joke.

I'd only value the thrill: feeling lost and overcoming obstacles. Basically scratching my head 24/7 over some problems. That is what gives meaning to work.

[one]

I only work for money. I don’t like associating myself with people and labels that a job entails. Any label actually. I remember getting an ID that has the label and I thought yuck. Maybe someday if I find a job really meant for me but that’s unlikely. I get my happiness from eating something nice and being with family.

[one]

I was still typing but that got sent already so… ok

[idiot]

I'd only value the thrill: feeling lost and overcoming obstacles. Basically scratching my head 24/7 over some problems. That is what gives meaning to work.

I feel the same way. Especially when on a time crunch. Obviously pulling all nighters and overloading your brain with information, unsure if you will pull through or if everything you worked up to till then will go up in flames is kind of stressful in the moment. In fact, every time it happens I think there's no way in hell I'm gonna go through that again.

But I'm strangely drawn to those situations

Excerpt from Gulenko's ILE profile that I relate to:
"Finding himself in situations where there isn’t enough time to think through all the steps inspires and activates him: all the work and chores that have accumulates he does in a short period of time, through the quality of work suffers through this."