So I filled out the 80 question questionnaire (muddytextures)

[Myst]

Yeah my life right now is rather void of fun and excitement, which is something I want to change. Do I like to try to control chaos? IDK, all I can see is changing situations raise my energy and vitality, while the mundane needs of life such as daily work drain it. I like chaos because because I often feel like my inner desires are shackled by rules and societal expectations, and in periods of chaos nobody cares about small things anymore so you are free to do what you want. The best way to describe how I feel right now would simply be suppressed.

OK I can't really tell much from this...

ESE vs SEI, hmmm. I can't say for sure I know any ESEs closely so it is difficult for me to give an evaluation regarding them. From what I read they seem like a lovable type but I'm skeptical that my dual would be part of the busy busy Ej temperament. Some sources say they can be quite strict about making sure everyone is behaving correctly which is not something I think would go to well with me. I would rather be someone who is relaxed and doesn't take things too seriously. As a side note I noticed I tend to get along the smoothest with Fe creatives. Pretty much all my female friends have been either SEI or IEI. (My males friends are of much more variable types, ranging from mostly LII, ILE, EIE, SLE, LIE, SLI, LSI)

Ah, why is Fe creative the smoothest for you? How do you behave around/with them?

[Muddy]

Well I a finally got a started a new job ( Best Buy) where I met new people and I finally got some real experience with ESE. One of the co-workers was a very obvious ESE-Fe and she helped me on my first day in a way that was most charming. During lunch I was trying to get a soda from the vending machine but it wasn't working. Without me asking she went out of her way to show me where the other drinks were and she used her employer ID to discount the prices for me. ESE may very well be my dual.

(or at the very least not my supervisor or conflictor )

[Muddy]

I've been getting discover a little more about myself now that I'm at work and interacting with a variety of people instead of just sitting at home alone and having to theorizing how I would be in what situations. First and foremost I've noticed I am a lot more controlled in my behavior then most other people. I never ramble loudly or try to make fun of other people without their consent unlike some of the other people I've been with. I've also noticed I like to chunk all work related things together into a single time frame so I can be completely undisturbed on my free time. When I'm at work I focus completely on the work so I can hurry up and get the shit done so I can get out of work sooner. However when there is nothing to do I gladly take the opportunity to chill, perhaps this Si hidden agenda with devalued Te since I seem to be hardworking on the outside but it's only because I want to get to not do work sooner and relax? When I'm at home relaxed and playing my games or whatever bitches had better not disturb me with chores.

[Myst]

I've been getting discover a little more about myself now that I'm at work and interacting with a variety of people instead of just sitting at home alone and having to theorizing how I would be in what situations. First and foremost I've noticed I am a lot more controlled in my behavior then most other people. I never ramble loudly or try to make fun of other people without their consent unlike some of the other people I've been with. I've also noticed I like to chunk all work related things together into a single time frame so I can be completely undisturbed on my free time. When I'm at work I focus completely on the work so I can hurry up and get the shit done so I can get out of work sooner. However when there is nothing to do I gladly take the opportunity to chill, perhaps this Si hidden agenda with devalued Te since I seem to be hardworking on the outside but it's only because I want to get to not do work sooner and relax? When I'm at home relaxed and playing my games or whatever bitches had better not disturb me with chores.

So, sounds like 4D Ti/1D Fe indeed. If you still really like that ESE then LII it is

The only other real possibility is SLI, of course.

[ghost of forum past]

I have not seen much that would imply LII for you over any other type. This doesn't mean that you're not LII, only that you're not "confirm & final" in my mind (which doesn't really matter anyways). You have said that you don't relate much to being a rational type in the Socionics sense? You could be a LII that is not particularly rational, or an ILE that is not particularly sociable.

Edit: @Myst presents a good case for an ILE, presumably with a low social instinct. There's also ILI if you aren't completely set on being Alpha. Remember that having pleasant interaction with your conflictor is indeed possible - problems present themselves at closer distances.

[Muddy]

I have not seen much that would imply LII for you over any other type. This doesn't mean that you're not LII, only that you're not "confirm & final" in my mind (which doesn't really matter anyways). You have said that you don't relate much to being a rational type in the Socionics sense? You could be a LII that is not particularly rational, or an ILE that is not particularly sociable.

Edit: @Myst presents a good case for an ILE, presumably with a low social instinct. There's also ILI if you aren't completely set on being Alpha. Remember that having pleasant interaction with your conflictor is indeed possible - problems present themselves at closer distances.

I'm not really considering ILI anymore because the gamma quadra types feel really alien to me. I'm much more of loose, anything goes kind of guy and don't relate to the seriousness and materialism present in gamma. I think I'm Ni devaluing because I'm not at all worried about my future, I'll handle things as they come and thats that. Interestingly though I relate to description of Ni bases being self-absorbed and detached with the physical world around them. Perhaps that may be the result of being a harmonizing subtype?

I do think Se role works because I do partially see the value of Se, although only on a very superficial level. I do feel the conscious need sometimes to not be too much of a wimp and to be able handle myself.

Most Fi aspects on the other hand feel completely pointless. I feel zero need to make moral contributions to society. In all honestly I could not care less if the rest of the world just disappeared as long as I have everything I need to live and be happy.

[Myst]

I'm not really considering ILI anymore because the gamma quadra types feel really alien to me. I'm much more of loose, anything goes kind of guy and don't relate to the seriousness and materialism present in gamma. I think I'm Ni devaluing because I'm not at all worried about my future, I'll handle things as they come and thats that. Interestingly though I relate to description of Ni bases being self-absorbed and detached with the physical world around them. Perhaps that may be the result of being a harmonizing subtype?

I do think Se role works because I do partially see the value of Se, although only on a very superficial level. I do feel the conscious need sometimes to not be too much of a wimp and to be able handle myself.

Most Fi aspects on the other hand feel completely pointless. I feel zero need to make moral contributions to society. In all honestly I could not care less if the rest of the world just disappeared as long as I have everything I need to live and be happy.

OK... you got anything that's really against ILE?

[Muddy]

OK... you got anything that's really against ILE?

Well I'm VERY reserved which doesn't seem to match up with being an extrovert. Not just reserved socially but also in the number of activites I engage in which is pretty much limited to stuff I'm familiar with. Other people often take notice of my shyness. Secondly I think I know my boundaries a lot more then other ILEs I observe which say these off the wall things 24/7. Thirdly I don't really feel supervised by EII.

[Myst]

Well I'm VERY reserved which doesn't seem to match up with being an extrovert. Not just reserved socially but also in the number of activites I engage in which is pretty much limited to stuff I'm familiar with. Other people often take notice of my shyness. Secondly I think I know my boundaries a lot more then other ILEs I observe which say these off the wall things 24/7. Thirdly I don't really feel supervised by EII.

You used to be more extraverted until whatever incident happened at school - but were you like ILE>LII back then or simply an LII with more extraverted behaviour?