Might as well.
Have been forum typed over the years the following:
EIE, EII, ESI, IEI, SEI, IEE, SLI, SEE.
Have considered EIE, ESI, EII, IEI, IEE, SLI, SEI over the years.
So what do you think? Friends and frenamies alike?
Might as well.
Have been forum typed over the years the following:
EIE, EII, ESI, IEI, SEI, IEE, SLI, SEE.
Have considered EIE, ESI, EII, IEI, IEE, SLI, SEI over the years.
So what do you think? Friends and frenamies alike?
I think you are delta, EII probably. Or maybe IEE. Your anger kinda reminds me of Galen.
I like you and I don't find you as abrasive and aggressive as other ESI so I can't consider that for you
That's because he's in your quadra.
(ugh I hate myself, I wish I could be a cool normal person and just get laid or something. socionics is for nerdy autistic ppl who can't throw the ball well.)
Really I can't be sure. I have a few extroverted friends, some of them really dynamic people. I don't keep complainers as friends, the kind of people who don't take my "nudging" for them to stop being so negative.
I know this may sound sad and maybe in some way it is (although I don;t think so, not really), but I don't really keep a lot of friends. Its not like I'm anti-social or anything (actually I am very social), and I am really, really well liked, its just, I don't know, I guess the culmination of all my life's experiences, trials, events ect..have lead to a place where right now I have a few close people.
And really its my own doing keeping people at arms length. If this makes sense, it take a to get to know me, because a lot of who I am comes out over time, and at every stage (after years of experience) I am cautious, ready to cut my losses if I have to cut the friendship (which I don;t want to do, who likes doing that?)
In my inner circle, I like people who make me feel good, like at a base, visceral level with the day-to day ho hum stuff of life, sharing the basic things in life, like what did you do today? And what happened to you here? As well as the same people can get really deep. I appreciate that probably makes no sense.
I also, and this is huge, all my really, really good friends know how to have fun and laugh our asses off. Not always polite company, but always "true".
Come to think about it, most of my family, including my brothers (have four of them) are some of my closest friends, they know me so well.
I am just going to post funny memes and pictures I have pilfered and collected from facebook from now on. This is the immature stuff that makes me chuckle.
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i'd be more interested in the types of your "frenemies"
like i said last night, you are exceedingly similar to Kim. the way you often jump to conclusions and form strong opinions about things you only know partially something about and get offended about non-existent entities all points to a type with strong Ne and focal Fi.
ESIs do not form snap judgments of this nature. they are unfortunately very linear and their snap judgments are often due to lack of exposure and a limited worldview. you on the other hand, seem to draw from too much exposure and a pool too large, which is the exact opposite problem than what ESIs generally have. (Ne base vs. Ne polr)
secondly, there is no way in hell you are so-last. maybe it seems trendy to type yourself so-last but uh, yeah no. you are sp-last as they come.
so.... Fi-IEE E7 so/sx or sx/so.
Cool thanks for the feed back it is appreciated. So... for a guy who doesn't like to be considered an effeminate gay man, you sure do talk like a sassy Queen!
It seems to me you are butt hurt about something or other. I have no idea what because I believe I have been more then respectable towards you.
I think it would even be wiser to replace your first paragraph from the words "you" to "me", and it might come closer to the truth, bud.
As afar as typing goes I don't feel as though the patterns in my life fall within a Ep approach. I am fairly rational as far as socionics is concerned and have a steady output of energy from sun up until sundown. In fact, the unreliability of Ips and the flightiness of Eps I have come to understand often irritate me, or simply puzzle me.
Further, it is hard to resonate with having an SLI as a completely compatible psychological partner because I find them boring and dull and too focused on immediate sensate orientation. There never seems to be any ambition beyond building their own idea of paradise. The languid Ip nature, although momentarily nice, like an evening BBQ, or a boat ride on a sunny afternoon, ultimately is unsatisfying even for a friendship. They never seem to want to do anything over the long term that does not benefit them, nor are nearly emotionally engaged enough in the world around them for me to completely sympathize and feel energized around. No offence SLIs.
Past partners often remark how I have a hard time seeing past my own noise, where I hate having a hundred options open before me, where endless streams of useless information, trivial information especially in a work place, shut me down mentally and make it difficult to focus on the tasks at hand.
Plus, I enjoy working with my hands and hard work gives me energy instead of removing it.
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VI?????
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I like you and I don't find you as abrasive and aggressive as other ESI so I can't consider that for you
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
OR, it could be that I know how to treat people with respect and that is part of my worldview and approach, wherein being rude and aggressive is a sign of immaturity.
Ask my family how abrasive as a kid I was. Life - "Live and burn" - has made me way more tolerant in all kinds of ways.
I agree with and abide by these same principles. It seems we share some values.
Hmm, perhaps this is devalued Fi?
I found this comment humorous and more importantly insightful. What type would be capable of providing these kind of insights?
Right now, I'm thinking SEI > ESE > EII > IEE. A video would be helpful.
Video isn't going to happen right now. Cool that we share some of the same values, they seem pretty common sense to me and anyone raised anywhere half decent or at least reached a certain age should have them. I really don't think it is sociotype related imo.
I don't know what type would be capable of having *insights* (they are more like opinions on past behaviour). I would curious to know what types you think would say things like that?
I'm not sure I am SEI or ESE, those are two types that would closer to the bottom of my list.
Well, not really. For some people it's "you either love me or you hate me" or "I'm not going to change for anybody" or "take me as I am". Some people don't even see rude and aggressive behavior as rude and aggressive behavior. They're just having fun and being a little rowdy.
"Opinions based on past behavior"... that's interesting. "Past behavior" sounds like the product of a 4D function, since 4D functions include the dimension of time. You're using your knowledge of this past behavior to form an opinion... sounds like you might be using your demonstrative function in support of your creative function. No idea what types would say things like that, though. I'm inclined to think it'd be some kind of ethical type, but logical types are capable of generating insights as well so idk.
Why?
Like one of my IEI male buddies said to me once:
You, galen and radio seem to hate anybody that isn't an estj cowboy. It's kind of funny.
Does that mean you hate me?
I seem to be the most hated out us. Never talked to galen he seems snobby and self-defeating.
I don't hate you at all (sometimes I do get annoyed at how you behave though, not to sound like a patronizing parent...), I think I actually probably had a little crush on you when I first met you. Hitta called you the Baywatch Lifeguard of fags, which I thought was kinda funny.
I don't understand Radio's tone of you in his post (it might be a cultural divide thing or something), but I do agree with him that ur delta.
I never had a crush on you BUT I did like you as a person, would read your threads and stories and think you have a great smile. We talked many times and laughed about things (at least I did) and it was nice which is why I was so blind sided when you thought I was coming across as a bully. I felt like none of you were understanding where I was coming from at all and I just figured you were all dumb and or jealous that I did not hate my life, nor felt any self-loathing.
Why do you think I'm a delta?
I've always been puzzled when people ask others to type them. Why not just take online tests? I've taken these probably a dozen times, and have always gotten the same ENTj result, so they can be consistent. At least, they have been for me.
What quadra do you feel more at ease with? You give me that delta sort of vibe but it could just be because I see you as someone who strives to be kind, understanding, and peace loving, from your posts. A little judgmental but not more than what is average. I don't see you as wimpy or anything. I see you stand up for your beliefs just fine. If delta then something like 974 sx second so sp/sx or so/sx. Do you feel driven to have a secure life first above all else? Do you have a strong interest in societal issues? Are you more likely to sit on the sidelines or actively participate when it comes to dealing with issues that involve politics, environment, or whatever? Do you feel your vote counts and an obligation to cast it? Not just officially but in general. Or do you sort of see those kinds of things as a passive observer and don't feel they have much impact on how you live your life?
I am trying to get a better sense of what motivates you. You don't seem to be prone to fantasy and perhaps you come off a bit more like a realist to me. Similar to SubT. Do you pay more attention to what is right there before you or what could be? On a scale of 1-10 how much do I irritate you with my posts? I could have used someone else but didn't want to put anyone else on the spot.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
1.) I don't know. I seem to have the best conversations with betas on the forum. In real life I hang out with the people who are in my life at the time.
2.) Yes security is important. Not over surprising for a foster kid that changed homes a lot. Security comes from both inside as well as outside. There can be security in danger as well.
3.) Not as much as I used too. I like to keep myself informed about what is going on in the world by reading the news, internet, books. I have a voice when with friends, and at other times I just keep quite. Depends. I had wanted to volunteer so I was on a crisis phone line for a couple years like 800 hours taking phone calls, all kinds of circumstances, a providing short term, emotional support. It was intrinsically rewarding and taught me so much.
4.) I will stay on the side lines, but again I like to be well informed. The environment though is a topic I know lots about. I had wanted to be a professional forester. I consider myself an amateur naturalist. Growing up in a remote part of British Columbia and the interests I had as a boy gives me a unique, well rounded perspective on the natural world and mankind's activities within it. As far as advocating...? I believe in one on one discussion. There needs to be middle ground between economic and industry needs and environmental stewardship. Thank-fully Canada is in many ways a leading country in regards to natural resource extraction and developmental regulations.
This was taken last month on a mountaineering trip with some of my brothers/wives in Yoho National Park on the British Columbia side of the Rockies. That's me in the middle, then the back, then on the edge. Love this kind of stuff.
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5.) Absolutely I always vote. Apathy is a crime.
6.) Government affects everyone's life to some extent. This is our world. Although this line of questions are cool, politics is not a main part of my personality. I care, but I am not really politically active. I think it is important to be informed because then you can make useful choices and navigate the system.
7.) I can be a dreamer. I think at this point things are pretty well balanced out in my brain.
8.) A two, just because I don't really feel all that irritated. Mostly I read posts or just pass over them. "Oh what does the flower child have to say..."
9.) Do it.
Besides ESI men are so rare that the odds of running into Jesus in my life time are better than me running into an ESI
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html