What is your opinion on what is inevitably coming in the next few decades? I'm talking about the realistic models, of course.
Sexbot Revolution
What is your opinion on what is inevitably coming in the next few decades? I'm talking about the realistic models, of course.
i could see realistic sexbots lowering the demand for flesh-and-blood prostitutes, which could have the positive side-effect of reducing human trafficking (especially of women and children). perhaps deviants would take advantage of sexbots and thereby reduce their desire to prey on real human beings. or sexbots could be used to catch predators of real humans (like the way a charity once caught online child predators by using a computer-generated webcam girl.) i think if sexbots were artificially intelligent and "conscious", however, you could run into ethical concerns by exploiting them.
Hugo has spoken lolOriginally Posted by Velvet
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do they make realdolls of corpses yet?
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i've fantasized about being held captive in my futuristic apartment by my sexbot before. i know, it's not terribly original. hee.
I think it's just around the corner in a few generations maybe. There is always a high demand for sex with hot girls. On the other hand: the sexual experience is pretty difficult to reproduce in an authentic way. You need very advanced robots. Lets see what happens during the next 200 years.
The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
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2D platonic-form waifus >>>>> evil clankers.
What is the morality of lobotomizing a fetus in order to breed it as a sex slave?
Last edited by xerx; 08-07-2020 at 03:49 AM.
it's wrong.
Is it comparable to abortion or way worse?
thinking of it from the POV of the victim sent me down a spiral of if it's worse to be snubbed out immediately or get a taste of "life" as lobotomized sex meat. instead going at it from the perpetrators POV an abortion is a get it done and over act while the lobotomized fetus fucktoy is ongoing depravity (assuming we're not just talking about making it, fucking it, then killing it right away). i'm gunna say LFF is way worse for that, it's not just a fucked up event, it's ongoing atrocity you're committing and having to warp your thinking into making acceptable to do.
now, what if the fetus is your clone? is it acceptable to abort your own clone? and if so, is it also acceptable to lobotomize and fuck it?
Last edited by bgbg; 08-08-2020 at 02:10 AM.
Yeah, confronting a living, breathing, lobotomized human is too emotionally powerful. It'd be even stranger if you decided to enslave your own son or daughter. I don't know if society is ready for that (... yet?).
I only brought it up because lobotomized humans are more realistic than sex robots. Another perk of using lobotomized sex slaves is that they can't fight back (a clever way to bypass AI rebellion). JKJKJK
You are using someone as a means to an end without their consent and on top of that you are stealing something from then which afterwards can no longer be returned ie harming them thoroughly.
Its morally reprehensible, I'd have you hang for less.
Ah, but that would depend on whether a fetus is really a person. If you follow the lively debate on abortion, that question has yet to be settled.
A lobotomized 'thing', without feelings or the ability to sense pain, is effectively a robot made up of biological parts. In all the ways that count, it may be less alive than a nematode. Would you hang someone for abusing a tree?Its morally reprehensible, I'd have you hang for less.
Last edited by xerx; 08-07-2020 at 06:08 PM.
Yeah I don't really care about their mental masturbation about at what point a fetus is a person or not. I determined this matters to me, I'll acquire the necessary support and coercive sociopolitical force in order to back this up with violence and make it law.
Nice try.A lobotomized 'thing', without feelings or the ability to sense pain, is effectively a robot made up of biological parts. In all the ways that count, it may be less alive than a nematode. Would you hang someone for abusing a tree?
I appreciate the candor and honesty. But it doesn't sound like you have a plan to acquire the 'sociopolitical force' to do what you want.
It's genetically abusive. The more humans play with genomes, the more an ethics is going to arise, moral standards about genetic abuse will eventually become laws. Humans have already committed genetic abuse by breeding creatures in ways that predispose them to suffer more or rob them of their essence. But as soon as they start doing it against themselves, outrage emerges because from the human POV we can finally get it.
ETA: I can still see an arbitrary/relativistic point though. I for one am all for eating stem food. I don't have a problem with growing cell cultures into steaks (I think that is more morally right than killing - the whole point is to stop killing so much - and it will also save us from food shortages which are coming and therefore prevent a lot of human suffering). Sometimes where the line is drawn is simply when something is too close to home, it's something that can be felt but may defy logic to some extent, and it has a range. Some people would find sexbots as "too close to home" whereas I just would see a robot. The ethics would be, make sure it's a bunch of algorithms, not an actual consciousness. If ever it experiences and can suffer, then it has rights.
Last edited by marooned; 08-08-2020 at 07:50 PM.
I've been thinking about this question again. I don't think it's possible to make a moral argument against phoetus lobotomy while also supporting abortion. An inanimate clump of cells is an inanimate clump of cells no matter what you do to it. I've tried hard to draw a distinction between the two actions, but I simply can't.
Whether you choose to destroy a phoetus or turn it into a philosophical zombie fuck-toy, both options are morally equivalent.
Last edited by xerx; 08-23-2020 at 08:17 PM.
I'm fine with sexbots. Bring it on. I've never been for chastising because one thing it's guaranteed not to do is improve the situation. Chastising is about addiction to self-righteousness, it's never about a way forward that could eventually reduce the prevalence of the offending thing. It's not willing to seek the human reason why, it's too terrified. And if you are afraid to see the cause, you can never help any problems (if there are any). Virgin eyes are blind.
I don't get this. To me "sex - romance = masturbation". I could just look at porn instead...
And if I want "sex + romance = fun", a robot can't do that. Unless they are realistic enough to mimic a person, but then it's kind of a person anyway.
Are there really a lot of people that want such a sophisticated masturbation device?
I'll take one.I don't seem to have any luck with real life people, so a robot sounds good to me. I've actually given thought to buying one before.
Whether or not the creation of lobotomized humans for sex runs against or not the arguments for abortion in of no consequence. The legalization (or its opposite) and naturalization of organic toys will be decided by the invested parties. By the same logic men cannot buy femme plastic dolls and beat them to a pulp in public squares since 'they don't feel pain anyway'.
Sicuramente cercherai il significato di questo.
btw @xerxe this was one of the threads in Rudy Ruckers 'Ware series. One of the main characters is a happily depraved guy named Sta Hi who after accidentally shooting his wife in the head ends up through mechanations of the second book working in the organ tanks for the moon robots. as part of the deal (for which he had to have half his brain removed with the promise of it being replaced) he gets a blank adult clone of his dead wife to fuck in a closet where they live when he isn't working. eventually his cloned wife has a sentient mold infested plastic organism take over her body for a brain, and they fall in love. he ends up as governor of california or something while she gets rich selling "wendy meat", regenerating chunks of meat from "her" empty lab grown clones.
then the 4th dimensional aliens give everyone magic wands that let them convert air into anything they desire and the entire world goes to shit.
neat series.
Neat. ((:btw @xerxe this was one of the threads in Rudy Ruckers 'Ware series. One of the main characters is a happily depraved guy named Sta Hi who after accidentally shooting his wife in the head ends up through mechanations of the second book working in the organ tanks for the moon robots. as part of the deal (for which he had to have half his brain removed with the promise of it being replaced) he gets a blank adult clone of his dead wife to fuck in a closet where they live when he isn't working. eventually his cloned wife has a sentient mold infested plastic organism take over her body for a brain, and they fall in love. he ends up as governor of california or something while she gets rich selling "wendy meat", regenerating chunks of meat from "her" empty lab grown clones.
then the 4th dimensional aliens give everyone magic wands that let them convert air into anything they desire and the entire world goes to shit.
neat series.
I wonder if there's a hidden message there.he ends up as governor of california
Maybe technology for virtual/remote sex will be more appealing than sexbots
Either one would have to be pretty damned good to beat a good partner, right here.
Plenty of people’s partners aren’t good.
Hmmm. Good point.
the future is now
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Probably depends on who or what you are comparing it to.
Not even that. Men only require 2D images on a computer screen.
if you're going to man bash like that, fine. your sex gets the man flu, you poor sensitive souls. also women like shopping more than sex because like it's an ascetic ideal of a higher being.
I thought they liked chocolate better.
good point.
*bump* We need to talk about sex robots for pedophiles.
I think a few of my encounters could be classified as that.
I once had sex with a woman whom I'd now call ESE, although at the time, all I knew about her was that she was a great cook and was a good sport about me whipping it out one day when I was drunk. She simply admired its aesthetics (after careful examination) and sidestepped the immediate invitation. She suggested that we have sex on her birthday (Why???) and it was easily the worst sex I've ever had in my life. I don't think it was any better for her, and we didn't repeat the process to try to make it better.
I think that both of us would have preferred an android at that point.
What made it bad?
I doubt if I can explain it well, but I'd chalk it up to the two of us being on different erotic axis'. I'm on the Victim-Aggressor axis, and she wasn't. She wasn't aggressing at all. It was like having sex with my barely conscious mom. God. It was horrible. I'm sure that things would have been different if she had been with a different guy. An LII guy, I imagine. I guess. I suppose.
I liked her otherwise. I think we got along really well and there was a lot of mutual understanding in most of our interactions, although we didn't try to do projects together and I was drinking a lot at the time. She was, too, though.
When I've been drinking, all women look desirable. Which is why I stopped.
*EDIT*
I forgot to mention that she planned the time we had sex in her room to coincide with when her female roommate was sleeping in the adjacent bedroom. Maybe she thought this added some forbidden lust dimension to the situation, or was meant to be more erotic for me, IDK. It didn't have that effect on me, but it didn't bother me, either.
Last edited by Adam Strange; 08-07-2020 at 08:14 PM.
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