How to encourage a depressed SEI?

[mu4]

Thank you. I know that he is very secretive about his health issues, so there are very few people who know. I will figure something out. Maybe suggest him to ask his ex to go with him (they are good friends and keep in touch) or his mom. That might be a good idea.

Do not think for a moment that he will comply on June 1st, what he has done is perhaps just a delaying tactic. Arrange the schedule and arrange his ex/mom to ensure that the schedule is complied with. However it he is too resistant, he will never stick with the treatment plan. It's important not to have expectations here.

If he was IEI I would say keep pressing and use force, make his ex and mom put him into treatment. But with SEI's and dialectical thinkers, it's not possible to use force to achieve a good result easily or promptly. There is also always the potential for relapse. There still appears to be some time before he is in critical danger so keep reinforcing his need to continue treatment. There might be an underlying dynamic that's preventing him from getting help which also needs to be addressed. IMO just don't capitulate in your core demand and hope for the best, because stuff happens.

FWIW

The disadvantages in Dialectical-Algorithmic cognition include instability and uncertainty. Algorithmics suffer from difficulty in making choices and embracing unambiguous decisions. This thinking is more comparable to a symphony of flowing interwoven imagery, rather than a mechanism of clearly established instruction sets. Another problem is increased criticality, which can be so high that it incurs self-destruction, plunging them into danger of total detachment from reality, and leading to mental disorders, especially in cases of hereditary predisposition.

http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...Victor-Gulenko

Psychological Sphere

The psyche of Dialectical types is most prone to transformations. From a psychological point of view, an unstable oscillating psyche is fertile ground for suggestibility. Occasionally Dialectics lose control over the parallel streams of thought fluctuating in their heads. They need only tune out their internal oscillation between freedom of choice and fatalism, and reinforce the latter. Doctors know that a small but accurately timed shock can throw the heart into a state of fibrillation. Likewise, a successfully directed signal at the right time can throw the Dialectical psyche into a chaotic state.

The EIE Sociotype has a very suitable psyche for suggestive influence. It is characterized by so-called moments of imprint vulnerability. In these moments an intense suggestion is triggered—an imprint—the prerequisites of which are a state of extreme fear, confusion, or surprise. A 'No Exit' sign suddenly seen by a person of Algorithmic psyche at a time of severe emotional turmoil, may catalyze a decision about suicide. Exploiting this paradoxical nature of Dialectical types, shock therapy is capable of completely reprogramming their conception of reality, including core value judgments.
A certain, although rare sign of Dialectical cognition—accidents that lead to states similar to a deep trance or coma, followed by sudden enlightenment or the appearance of esoteric abilities.

The other version is slow suggestion, primarily based on entrainment through rhythmic vocalization and/or sound, multiple repetitions of the same phrase with variation. Variations in this case are particularly significant, working akin to the chorus in a song. Gradually a trance state is reached—external relaxation with internal concentration. The greater the monotony, the sooner a deep trance is reached. Hence why some people rapidly settle down and fall asleep under a monotone 'bubnezh' TV.

Gulenko proposes very different ways of suggesting things to DA types, both are workable but the key is the destroy the dangerous delusion whatever it might be at the core of this self-destructive mentality, and to eradicate it completely.

[Scientist]

Thank you, I will read Gulenko, may be helpful. I'll find it in Russian, it's easier for me than learning from the translated version.