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    Quote Originally Posted by chips and underwear View Post
    Are you sure this person is an SEI? My understanding is SEI is Si base, so wouldn't they likely be health conscious and taking the steps towards improving their health? Maybe not every SEI but I think they would be more likely to than someone with lower order SEI.
    Not necessarily. No not at all. Introverted sensing doesn't lead people to live so called healthy lives. For instance, most of the smokers I know are introverted sensor types. Many over eaters are Si types as well. Si is about cognition of states of physical being, with an emphasis on comfort. Comfort does not equal health. I find that lots of SEI talk about being healthy habits, but the default position reins supreme. No offence guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wacey View Post
    Not necessarily. No not at all. Introverted sensing doesn't lead people to live so called healthy lives. For instance, most of the smokers I know are introverted sensor types. Many over eaters are Si types as well. Si is about cognition of states of physical being, with an emphasis on comfort. Comfort does not equal health. I find that lots of SEI talk about being healthy habits, but the default position reins supreme. No offence guys.
    so now is about leading an unhealthy life instead? (i mean if is about "comfort," certain things like over-eating might be um, "uncomfortable.")

    i just don't really think being healthy is type-related... although people's reasons/causes for their healthiness or unhealthiness may very well be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by inumbra View Post
    so now is about leading an unhealthy life instead? (i mean if is about "comfort," certain things like over-eating might be um, "uncomfortable.")

    i just don't really think being healthy is type-related... although people's reasons/causes for their healthiness or unhealthiness may very well be.
    Cognitive functions are so loosely defined that they can mean anything you want. I've seen Si defined as anything from having a preoccupation with living a healthy life style to preferring one's own comfort at the expense of one's health, which would be ignoring your health entirely The latter is often used as justification for being another type with non-dominant Si.
    Important to note! People who share "indentical" socionics TIMs won't necessarily appear to be very similar, since they have have different backgrounds, experiences, capabilities, genetics, as well as different types in other typological systems (enneagram, instinctual variants, etc.) all of which also have a sway on compatibility and identification. Thus, Socionics type "identicals" won't necessarily be identical i.e. highly similar to each other, and not all people of "dual" types will seem interesting, attractive and appealing to each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by inumbra View Post
    so now is about leading an unhealthy life instead? (i mean if is about "comfort," certain things like over-eating might be um, "uncomfortable.")

    i just don't really think being healthy is type-related... although people's reasons/causes for their healthiness or unhealthiness may very well be.
    well actually, many (most?) unhealthy behaviors do in fact make the body feel crappy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by inumbra View Post
    so now is about leading an unhealthy life instead? (i mean if is about "comfort," certain things like over-eating might be um, "uncomfortable.")

    i just don't really think being healthy is type-related... although people's reasons/causes for their healthiness or unhealthiness may very well be.
    Anyone heard of chubby SEI?
    Alpha Si is +Si and pretty hedonistic.

    Well, to be honest I need someone to make me see a doctor. It is anxiety producing event itself. Somebody there take care of me, please. I'm even bit short sighted when it comes to this. I don't want to experience more pain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wacey View Post
    Not necessarily. No not at all. Introverted sensing doesn't lead people to live so called healthy lives. For instance, most of the smokers I know are introverted sensor types. Many over eaters are Si types as well. Si is about cognition of states of physical being, with an emphasis on comfort. Comfort does not equal health. I find that lots of SEI talk about being healthy habits, but the default position reins supreme. No offence guys.
    I wonder if it could partially be variant related too. SP variants being more likely to do something about it, SP last more likely to be in denial or just ignore it all together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chips and underwear View Post
    I wonder if it could partially be variant related too. SP variants being more likely to do something about it, SP last more likely to be in denial or just ignore it all together.
    in a way, you could also potentially say, sp-first might be more likely to be in denial or ignore the illness -- it can be seen as a self-preserving mechanism in a way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chips and underwear View Post
    I wonder if it could partially be variant related too. SP variants being more likely to do something about it, SP last more likely to be in denial or just ignore it all together.
    Naw, Sp doesn't work like that either. A lot of Sp first types are stuck in their cave/etc.

    Most of the Si stereotypes only apply for ego expression but neurotic expression within each type is quite variant. Si types can be concerned about health but they're often just hedonists who overeat, have a lot of promiscuous sex and do drugs.

    Introverted irrationality is also often inaccessible to conventional thought, for all we know this individual thinks his behavior is the "healthy" way.

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