Well, when you tell story sequences that are improbable with great detail and immersion and later chain them together to form a novel... or other way around... it will be a lie most probably.
Reality is not Hollywood.
It is hard to believe at least for me. Greatest liars are able to hook you up.
I kind of start to to disbelieve when I hear lots of experienced details. Well, I 'm static so I form coherence by linking events.
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IEI/EIE certainly does not work....she's got the emotional intensity of a fruit roll-up.
IEI/EIE have a strong feeling connection to their ideas/intuitions, so when they deliver them, they do so in a way that gives full expression to their emotions (it could be a musical performer or a politician like ****** -- the outward energy has a burn to it, such that you can tell the ideas they are preaching sparked something powerful in them). with her there's no spark, she's just giving a rote passionate-less performance, put a quarter into the gumball machine and a gumball comes out. she's just a performer of other people's ideas. She's using what's already in the environment to construct a persona/image that will make her money by selling herself as the type of person others will pay money to get information from.
No question her persona includes canned insights she sponged up off Ni and Ne astroplaners/etc, but she's just doing a presentation of that....it's a persona. Anybody with some intelligence can cultivate such a persona if they immerse themselves into enough self-help books, spirituality forums, kooky seminars, etc. and moreso with type 3 where the particular talent centers around constructing a false self out of desired qualities.
Fi/Se cognition interacts with type SP 3 to create an internal mirror of the image she wants to become based upon "gurus" she admires, phrases and insights and kooky ideas she found somewhere else and thinks will attract and make money (tweaked up for marketing value), and Se pushes that internal mirror out onto the world around her.
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Whatever her type is, from what I have read about people's experiences with her she doesn't seem to be in this realm of reality.
TL;DR She projected her own insecurities onto someone else because they questioned the outrageous things she said."It caught me off guard the first time I experienced one of Teal's borderline tirades where she flipped a switch and began berating me for all of my shortcomings a few weeks after I arrived in Utah. It started when she became extremely irritated with me and accused me of questioning her integrity, after she told me her cat Cosmos was actually a holographic soul projection from the planet Sirius, and that he had been talking to me and telling me that my blood sugar was off."
Manipulation is neither good or evil, it just is. It is a self-serving tool. To imply that it isn't evil gives me the impression that she's had people call her out on her shit lol.If we fear manipulative people, it is only because we do not realize that every being on this earth (including ourselves) is manipulative. Manipulation is not evil. It does not mean that someone intends to hurt or use other people for their own benefit. So what does it mean to be manipulative? To be manipulative is to speak and act in a way that guarantees that we get the response we want to get from other people. So you see, manipulation is how most of us try to get love. Manipulation is how most of us try to get safety… because we do not trust the world to be kind to us. Everyone is manipulative, we are simply more or less aware of that aspect within ourselves.
Tell that to people who have been manipulated, lol. That is exactly what it means, manipulation is by nature self-serving and a control tactic, even if it's not intended to do harm. When we manipulate we are projecting onto other's what we think is best for them, we are serving our own needs instead of allowing them to think for themselves. The extent of manipulative behaviour changes depending context, but excusing it and normalising it as a way of being is very suspicious.It does not mean that someone intends to hurt or use other people for their own benefit.
She seems ignorant to her own self interest, saying manipulation is human nature to justify the way she is instead of taking responsibility for the way she is and actually becoming aware of her actions and how they affect other people and herself.
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I think what she's saying is to live in fear of manipulation is to be afraid of your own shadow essentially... which is true but discounts like you pointed out that actual manipulation occurs, however inasmuch as everyone manipulates what is at issue is malevolence not really "manipulation" since "manipulation" can be welcome in its benevolent form. the idea that everyone manipulates, in the bad sense, is a form of pathological fear (lack of trust) in everyone, i.e.: paranoia
that was in fact good enough for online
LMAO.
Sorry, I'm sorry, its just teal swan looks like a horse compared to angelina it had me laughing.
*vibes just the same though
Teal Swan reminds me of my mom in the way she speaks her "enlightment" stuff... gross.
My mom is likely SLE.
She's a pathological narc like so many people who fashion themselves into spiritual authorities.
Attractive though.
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Holy crap lol. I've seen a video or two of hers, and she seems a bit dead behind the eyes, but could You substantiate that a bit more for those less familiar?
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A lot of guru-y people are narcissistic, either they would be narc in any circumstances, or the pitfalls of being in the guru position bring it out, or it's a combination of their proclivities and the situation.
The best source on this I know of is Daniel Shaw's book Traumatic Narcissism. If you become really familiar with the stuff he's talking about and/or get experience in cults and escaping from cults, her shtick will strike you right away as coming from the wrong place.
I don't have the stomach to comb through all her stuff. I'll just say that her claims about being some special interdimensional being here on a mission or whatever are inherently the work of a narc. People / beings who are enlightened, or close to it, don't brag about their spiritual state or set themselves apart. It's just not what an authentic spiritual teacher does. It's what a narc does.
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LSI: “I still can’t figure out Pinterest.”
Me: “It’s just, like, idea boards.”
LSI: “I don’t have ideas.”
my impression as well. *Shivers*
Your response is constructive, as I've rightfully marked it, but to be clear I don't know nearly enough about her reasoning or background, and that's a heavy-handed assertion. Probability-wise I'd say that makes alot of sense, but I've also seen alot of this "we are beings here on a journey" schlock from the New Age 'movement', so I don't know how much of that is marketing to a subculture and how much of it is her pedestalizing herself. I"ll freely concede that I don't have the stomach for her work so I won't bother verifying lmao I just wanted to throw it out there that it's not at all an uncommon trait of that... uhh, subculture
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Narcissism is common, and it’s very, very common among the new age set. I don’t intend to make heavy-handed assertions, just can’t deny an unfortunate circumstance.
When people start emerging from the woodwork to point out problems with pseudo-gurus, it usually looks and sounds pretty similar, like this:
https://medium.com/@bescofield/the-g...t-36168edaf62f
http://celestialhealing.blogspot.com...luded-and.html
http://www.jessicaschab.com/exposing.html
http://thetruthaboutcameron.blogspot...teal-swan.html
Some of these folks are still tangled in the undergrowth of woo culture and can’t think without resorting to new age anti-thought jargon, which makes them ideal victims for fake gurus, yet they still know something is wrong.
LSI: “I still can’t figure out Pinterest.”
Me: “It’s just, like, idea boards.”
LSI: “I don’t have ideas.”
Holy fuck.... I had no idea of this rabbit hole of horseshit. Also, nobody dead behind the eyes is beautiful, don't be fooled by symmetry and apparel. This is bordering on comedy.
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- Fi smile.
- Obsessed with attaining "authenticity" and talks about it as if Fi is something the whole world needs, and she is striving to get to it.
- Involved, instructive speeches about the alternate forces in the world and how the wider trends of humanity move and tie together (Ni creative)
- Dry, straight forward manner, says it like it is, no holds barred.
- Often says "The reality is.... the reality is..." As if she knows what reality is but has to keep repeating it, and sounds like a bloated version. Se HA. Plus, "the reality is..." is often something abstract, but she says it as though it's concrete.
- Looks the part, for anyone that knows VI. Compare her to the ENTJs listed here
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- Always has the right words (thinker) to describe some chain of events in her own life or in the world that have occurred or will occur (Ni)
- Hope for a better future based on the outcome of events that are currently developing
- Positive hopes about the future
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I don't think she seems particularly authentic. Her views on men, women, masculinity, femininity, etc. are very conservative, traditional and collectivist. Very much like a "This is how men should be. This is how women should be" kind of vibe. Which I find very off putting, as a EII/INFP type 4 with a strong 9 fix. Maybe it's just my extremist individualist libcuck views on things.
She is also very 'silly' and 'goofy' and full of laughter.
Some have said that she has stated that she's INFJ (in MBTI). I haven't been able to confirm it. But if it's true, I guess this would make her IEI-INFp in Socionics.
I know nothing about her except having watched some videos, which were utter bull, but let me just say a few things. The way you describe her views on men and women seems beta/aristocratic. A person should behave as per the group they belong to etc.
This could also be a quality of delta as I understand it. What's weird to me is that you identify as EII, so delta quadra, yet consider yourself "extreme individualist". I'm not saying your self-typing is wrong, btw - it could be my understanding of the socionics that is. Do you think individualism vs collectivism relates to type? Is it related to Reinin's democratic vs aristocratic? This question fascinates me.
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Yeah I think that perhaps there are some contradictions in the descriptions. Delta group interactions get described as respecting individuals's need to walk their own path, but they also get described as Aristocratic, like you said. I'm probably more democratic than aristocratic, but the thing is that, well, first of all, I definitely see myself as an introvert and a feeler/ethical. But Fi user, not Fe user. And I'm not an Se user. So I don't think I could be SEI, IEI or ESI. Perhaps the Enneagram 4 makes me more individualistic than other Deltas, possibly. I don't know.
Also, Fi gets described as very individualistic. But maybe I'm mixing it up with MBTI。I don't know. But Teal's views on men and women and what not, seems to be very anti-authentic to me. Maybe I'm an extremist, as it's a subject that I'm very sensitive about (as I feel that men and women are always stereotyped and labeled and told how to behave, according to their assigned gender roles). It seems to sort of go against authenticity and that "live and let live" attitude. She can be a bit dramatic and rude too. But I guess Fi and Fe users both strive for harmony. Plus she seems too jolly and goofy to be Fi. She can barely contain that goofball.
Seems SLE.
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OK, I'm going to say SEE. Causal-Deterministic thinking. I don't know what happened to her.
Gives very similar impression which is comparable to this confirmed Napoleon:
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The irony when there is a public figure that is actually IEI but everyone hates on them hah
(and types her Se ego instead.. funny.. whereas I type several "IEIs" as Se ego instead..)
Just because you "dislike" her or call her a "narc/psychopath" whatever.. doesn't make her not IEI
She ticks off all the typical IEI boxes but somehow most people refuse to type her as such,
probably because of personal bias
She must be the bullshitter of this century (like so many other SEE's who are blessed with this ability).
It is something after all and not everyone can do it.
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SEE?She must be the bullshitter of this century (like so many other SEE's who are blessed with this ability).
It is something after all and not everyone can do it.
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Her spouse seems to be some sort ofego. She admits that he has more in depth understanding of spirituality.
I don't think ESI is possible [as they really seem to have problem in this area]. Her thinking is very derivative (reminiscent of mine). She has certainly studied/skimmed through lots of psychology, new age, nutrition and fiction and has a vast database of information where to draw from. Coherency seems bit lacking.
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I remember that video. He seems harmonizing and she Creative. I thought he could be LIE.Her spouse seems to be some sort of
I don't think ESI is possible [as they really seem to have problem in this area]. Her thinking is very derivative (reminiscent of mine). She has certainly studied/skimmed through lots of psychology, new age, nutrition and fiction and has a vast database of information where to draw from. Coherency seems bit lacking.
The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
(Jung on Si)
She's an obvious and stereotypical IEI 4w3w4 sx/so/sx probably.
This site has her typed as 3w4 Sp/So, for whatever it's worth...
stackemup.livejournal.com
How is that?
I find it interesting they typed people like Boney James and Barry White as Sx-lasts. Their music is extremely romantic and sensual。
I don't know about Jesse Lee Peterson being 9w1. The guy loves to provoke and dramatize.
She portrays herself as an IEI, and maybe she is one, but I question it. She doesn't seem interesting and regurgitates tired New Age concepts. I would expect more originality from an IEI.
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To me she seems Ne. I dont see Ni
The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
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Even if she's crazy I like her, she has good ideas and seem to aim towards actually helping others.
Could be sle yeah or ile, she's very articulate and good at logical reasoning
the real tealo swano
Fi lead, does what she wants bases in what she thinks is right, often shows advises others to go thier own way and not to conform, often shows disregard for Fe.
Ne auxillary, abstract thinking aware of many possible scenarios, knows what concepts to market to others, does not see seemingly contradictory statements and ways of thinking as such because of looking at everything from many angles.
Si Tertiary- organizes information (the way her videos are structured)
Te inferior- attempts to manage how others think of her. Doesn't come up with original frameworks but rather gathers already available information from many sources (and uses Si to organize it in the way that serves her Fi) aware of need of the tribe but can not prioritize over individuality. Wants to seem credible but may not have sources to back up information.
my impression as well. *Shivers*
Hey @inumbra - She gives me the impression that she laughs at and is turned on by child sexual abuse. Like if you try to go to her for help with that it will just either really turn her on or she will do things like blame the victim and try to see how you 'attracted it in your own vibration' or something... despite her criticizing Esther Hicks when she's obviously just doing that for financial reasons since Esther Hicks is her competitor and they're both trying to lure in suckers.
I still like her style & some of the things she says, but I'm more forgiving with people than I ought to be I guess. But I mean yeah my Ni sees this really well... and the really over the top stuff she claims she experienced as a child growing up is way too far-fetched for me and it just seems like this sick fantasy she has about children that she's manipulating others to feel sorry for her as if it really happened so she can be 'in the right.' Like I can't believe the validity of it, it just is some perv fantasy she has or something. She is worldly or smart enough to not act on it and to just use it to manipulate others financially though, I think. Or I hope lol.
https://youtu.be/V6xCjY39_t0?t=305
u were PARTIALLY wrong. like others are wrong about her being a fraud. i see the same shit going through her head that goes through mine that makes u think im a fraud but its u who doesnt understand. also notice her facial structure. then notice Russel Brand. its that jaw development related to narcissism thats also related to muscle function of the skull and cranial bones pressuring the brain and changing cognitive states. based off of what u said about the shadow and how she works he is a lot lot like me.
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