Being unsure about one's characteristics and feeling of oneself, being easily influenced by someone else's comments about one's nature and characteristics - can it be prescribed to Fi polr?
Being unsure about one's characteristics and feeling of oneself, being easily influenced by someone else's comments about one's nature and characteristics - can it be prescribed to Fi polr?
I don't like to hear stuff like this person has a dark heart or similar stuff. It is so final.
BUT I don't really mind to hear something to which I can build on. Well, it is not super important. I still think the core stuff that I need is derivable from other sources. Information, still and something that I can link further on. It is not painful it might be even positive until it gets too subjective and objective views start to contradict it.
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Well, in my case (let's assume for a second that my typing is correct), if someone tells me that I am for example spontaneous, outgoing, smart, helpful - I enjoy those remarks extremaly (relatively to positive remarks of other type). When I receive some criticism, for example someone will tell me that I am shy/nonsense/evil person, it extremaly saddens me, and I can think of it for weeks trying to reasonably convince myself that it is not true, but it does not really work until i am sure that this person changed her/his opinion of me. From the blow i get in such situation, i can safely assume that this situation is related to my Polr. I am just so easily influenced and "conquered" by the opinions of others, and I would like to avoid it. Would you relate to that @Troll Nr 007? Can it be related to Fi polr? Just tryin to figure what is what in here.
The weak tolerance for personal criticism is more expected from F types. T types just do not allow besides very limited number of people to touch their heart. Only F types are accented on people in general.
To be shy is not bad. Introverts are almost all such. Extraverts accept it positively, at least in the opposite sex.
Evil - it's more about personal preferences in the concrete situations.
> From the blow i get in such situation, i can safely assume that this situation is related to my Polr.
criticism on any weak function can be accepted harder. but it's not only from the strenght how I've pointed above
> I am just so easily influenced and "conquered" by the opinions of others, and I would like to avoid it
in general, it should be harder to resist to influence in your weak regions
but this mb not only from Jung's type. most people do not see this as a problem in them, they just trust to some info higher and do not feel bad from this
It seems hard for an ILE or an SLE to be like that, maybe it's more a Fi role thing, introverts are more easily self-preoccupied like that. Anyway to me this looks more like F, over T. I mean we all worry of what people say and think of us, but if this becomes a major preoccupation then it's probably linked to an excessive focus we give at this field, rather than not using it. It could even be that you value contacts, people, wish to be included in their worlds- Fe, but feel trapped in the same time by your own Ti, thinking, which is poorly supported by Fi-role. IDK
I'm not sure this has to do with Fi in a weak position.When I receive some criticism, for example someone will tell me that I am shy/nonsense/evil person, it extremaly saddens me, and I can think of it for weeks trying to reasonably convince myself that it is not true, but it does not really work until i am sure that this person changed her/his opinion of me.
Last edited by ooo; 05-24-2018 at 09:51 PM.
I have Charlie X on and it made me think of this thread.
Fi creative here. In my experience Fi polar seems like it can't fathom that the interpersonal part of a relationship is cemented. Meaning what? To me its like they need constant reassurance of wether or not we're "good", and every time we part from a social situation the file "resets" and has to be filled with that info time and time again
I can literally not talk to someone for months and have no doubts. I can pick up right where we left off, because I measure the quality of a relationship in openess, shared experiences, and commonality in worldview, just to name only a few things.
On the bright side Fe third are some of the most fun loving and playful people, very seeking of a positive reaction from others. If they don't receive it right away it sort of eats at them, so I try to help em out there. Anyone relate to this?
Right on the money
The nature of Fi-POLR really depends on whether its ILE or SLE IMO. Both have trouble measuring the emotional "distance" between themselves and others. SLE being negativist and Aggressor, tends to assume the worst until proven otherwise, or just Se their way through (perhaps giving the impression that they don't care about relationships, that they only want sex, etc.). ILE being positivist and Infantile, tends to assume the best until proven otherwise, and their Ne makes them more clingy and fickle in terms of relations. In fact, I think in Stratievskaya's ILE description it says that the only saving point of ILE's Fi-POLR is how fast they trust people and get into close relations.
In my case, I get into close relations very quickly with pretty much anyone that gives me a crumb of Fe If it's someone I'm interested romantically, usually within a week or two of meeting I attempt to "make it official". But the only type that doesn't find it exhausting or irritating (and actually reciprocates my feelings) is SEI.
As an example, there's this SEI-Fe girl I met exactly 7 days ago. Somehow we went out on 4 really long dates in such a short period of time. I asked her if it isn't annoying to see me so often. Apparently she enjoys it She keeps insisting we're just friends but I think we crossed the friendship line long ago already
Interesting
I'm on the slower side when it comes to forming romantic connection. Especially since It's my time we're talking about here. I'd hate to be tied up to someone pulling in a completely opposite direction to me regardless of the attention I get. If it's company I want I can go outside and literally talk to anyone, or find my friends.
Also, not to be negative, but make sure your time isn't being wasted on someone that really does think you're just friends and just stands to benefit from your attention.