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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
    Niff himself is type 4, and he's ILI.
    Nah. He's quite clearly a 5. Possibly w4.
    socio: INFp - IEI
    ennea: 4w5 sp/sx

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    Quote Originally Posted by aka-kitsune View Post
    Nah. He's quite clearly a 5. Possibly w4.
    One can't be ILI-4 ?

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    Inversed Sociotype-Enneagram correlations:

    Scale:

    3: Best fit
    2: Possible
    1: Pretty much impossible

    1

    3: LSI, LII, EII
    2: ESI, EIE
    1: Everything else

    2

    3: ESE, SEI
    2: ESI, IEE, IEI, EII, EIE
    1: Everything else

    3

    3: EIE
    2: IEI, ESE, ILE, SLE, LIE
    1: Everything else

    4

    3: IEI
    2: EIE, SEI, LII, ILI
    1: Everything else

    5

    3: ILI, LII
    2: SLI, ILE, LIE, LSI
    1: Everything else

    6

    3: ESI
    2: ILE, LII, ESE, SEI, LSI, IEI, EIE, SEE, ILI, LIE, SLI, EII, IEE
    1: SLE, LSE

    7

    3: ILE, SLE, SEE, IEE
    2: ESE, EIE, SEI
    1: Everything else

    8

    3: SLE, LSE, LSI
    2: LIE, SLI, SEE, ESE
    1: Everything else

    9

    3: SEI, SLI,
    2: IEI, EII, IEE
    1: Everything else

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    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    6

    3: ESI
    2: ILE, LII, ESE, SEI, LSI, IEI, EIE, SEE, ILI, LIE, SLI, EII, IEE
    1: SLE, LSE
    Why is it impossible for a Six to be an LSE, but impossible for a Six to be SLI?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezra View Post
    Why is it impossible for a Six to be an LSE, but impossible for a Six to be SLI?
    SLI's can't be Sixes either. Such people who appear as Sixes are often Fours or Eights.

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    According to this, I'm an IEI. I like the other one better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 07490 View Post
    O
    Sorry, that's not a possible enneagram type. Must be an integer in the range of 1-9.
    LII-Ne with strong EII tendencies, 6w7-9w1-3w4 so/sp/sx, INxP



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    i'll respond to those parts that i really disagree with.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post

    2

    3: ESE, SEI
    2: ESI, IEE, IEI, EII, EIE
    1: Everything else
    ESI, IEI, and EII would all probably make very poor twos.

    3

    3: EIE
    2: IEI, ESE, ILE, SLE, LIE
    1: Everything else
    LIEs would make atrocious 3s. i think an SEE would be a much better 3 than LIE, and maybe also LSI.

    4

    3: IEI
    2: EIE, SEI, LII, ILI
    1: Everything else
    SEI, LII, and ILI are all horrible 4s.

    5

    3: ILI, LII
    2: SLI, ILE, LIE, LSI
    1: Everything else
    i can't see an LSI as a good 5.

    6

    3: ESI
    2: ILE, LII, ESE, SEI, LSI, IEI, EIE, SEE, ILI, LIE, SLI, EII, IEE
    1: SLE, LSE
    all of SEI, SEE, ESE are probably poor sixes. i think i'd take LSE over any of them.

    8

    3: SLE, LSE, LSI
    2: LIE, SLI, SEE, ESE
    1: Everything else
    why is SLI or ESE a good 8? also LIE is at least as good as LSE, and ESI is at least as good as LSI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by machintruc View Post
    SLI's can't be Sixes either. Such people who appear as Sixes are often Fours or Eights.
    I'm not sure you really understand the Four. Or the Eight.

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    Here's a table I made. Probably does differ from the one I made last time I made one:



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    Why the hell do so many people think incorrectly that LSEs are not prototypical 8s? Just because they don't value Se? And since when are LSEs often 6s? No sense at all there, IMO.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    LSEs want to control everything around them?

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    Umm...not necessarily any more or less than an SLE or LSI, and probably moreso than any LIE or ESI, IME. I really don't see ESI as a good candidate for 8, tbh.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Umm...not necessarily any more or less than an SLE or LSI, and probably moreso than any LIE or ESI, IME. I really don't see ESI as a good candidate for 8, tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Why the hell do so many people think incorrectly that LSEs are not prototypical 8s? Just because they don't value Se? And since when are LSEs often 6s? No sense at all there, IMO.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Umm...not necessarily any more or less than an SLE or LSI, and probably moreso than any LIE or ESI, IME. I really don't see ESI as a good candidate for 8, tbh.
    Anyone with Se in the ego has a desire to extend their personal control beyond themselves. If Ni creatives, being weak in Se but still valuing it, desire this same control (which, valuing Se, they probably do), they use excessive levels of whatever Se egos know how to use proper amounts of.

    Eights need to extend control to others, because otherwise, they lose their personal freedom, something they cannot do without (this is obviously part of the Eight's fixation, of which it's a task to get rid of). I just can't see someone who doesn't want to extend their control beyond themselves as an Eight. And if they don't, that means they're healthy. Very healthy. So, what, only healthy Eights can be LSEs? What if the Eight becomes unhealthy? Does that make them change type to a more controlling one?

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