My possible enneagram types: 3, 4, 6, 7
My possible Sociotypes: IEI, EIE, ILE, IEE
What would be the best cross-section of these?
My possible enneagram types: 3, 4, 6, 7
My possible Sociotypes: IEI, EIE, ILE, IEE
What would be the best cross-section of these?
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
I generally agree with the Eight observations.
The one thing I kind of maybe almost have a problem with (starting to sound like niffweed ) are Three and LSE, which I think match relatively well. Arnold Schwarzenegger is an LSE, and he is probably a Three (and is often cited as one). One and Six I see as better fits than the other types, although I can tolerate all but Four (yes, even Two I can flow with).
Excellent coorelations, I might buy you a present when your birthday rolls around.
D-SEI 9w1
This is me and my dual being scientific together
You're not a Four. If you were, IEI would make most sense. Leon is an EIE, and we decided on Four, although Three is possible.
Essentially:
- Three EIE > ILE/IEE > IEI
- Four IEI > EIE > ILE/IEE
- Six Equally compatible with all; depends on the kind of Six we're talking about
- Seven ILE/IEE > EIE > IEI
Assuming you haven't changed your opinion over night, we can rule out half of this spectrum, leaving ILE, 3, 6 and 7.Originally Posted by Gilly
I agree, mainly for reasons pertaining to the various triads, which I don't feel are necessary to bring up right now.Originally Posted by Allie
I think it can seem possible, especially based on some of the general descriptions, but when you look into the various triads, it just doesn't work for me.Originally Posted by Ezra
And lol @ ESI 7
Last edited by strrrng; 08-26-2008 at 11:51 AM. Reason: cause I've been up all night and can't spell!!!
No way Arnie is an 8.
3 or 6 imo.
ILE
best fit: 7
good fit: none
ok as: 3
questionable as: 6,9
poor fit: 2,4,5,8
worst fit: 1
SEI
best fit: 9
good fit: 2
ok as: 7
questionable as: 1,3,6
poor fit: 4,5
worst fit: 8
ESE
best fit: 2
good fit: none
ok as: 3,7,9
questionable as: 1,6
poor fit: 8
worst fit: 4,5
LII
best fit: none
good fit: 1,5
ok as: 6,9
questionable as: 4
poor fit: 2,3
worst fit: 7,8
EIE
best fit: 3
good as: 4,7
ok as: 8
questionable as: 2,6
poor fit: 1,9
worst fit: 5
LSI
best fit: 1,6
good fit: 8
ok as: 3,7,9
questionable as: none
poor fit: 4,5
worst fit: 2
SLE
best fit: 7,8
good fit: none
ok as: 3
questionable as: none
poor fit: 1,2,6,9
worst fit: 4,5
IEI
best fit: 4
good fit: none
ok as: 3,6,7,9
questionable as: 5
poor as: 1,2
worst fit: 8
SEE
best fit: none
good fit: 7,8
ok as: 3
questionable as: 2,6
poor fit: 4,9
worst fit: 1,5
ILI
best fit: 5
good fit: 6
ok as: none
questionable fit: 4,7,8
poor fit: 1,3,9
worst fit: 2
LIE
best fit: none
good fit: 8
ok as: 1
questionable fit: 5,6,7
poor fit: 2,3,4,9
worst fit: none
ESI
best fit: 6
good fit: 1,8
ok as: none
questionable fit: 4,6,7,9
poor fit: 2
worst fit: 3
LSE
best fit: none
good fit: none
ok fit: 1,2
questionable fit: 8,9
poor as: 5,6,7
worst fit: 3,4
EII
best fit: 9
good fit: none
ok fit: 1
questionable fit: 5,6
poor as: 2,4,7
worst fit: 3,8
IEE
best fit: none
good fit: 7,9
ok fit: 6
questionable as: 2
poor as: 3,5,8
worst fit: 1
SLI
best fit: none
good fit: 5,6
ok fit: 1,9
questionable as: 7,8
poor fit: 2
worst fit: 3,4
No way. You show a complete lack of understanding of socionics and enneagram types.
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
lol
maybe a saint is just a dead prick with a good publicist
maybe tommorow's statues are insecure without their foes
go ask the frog what the scorpion knows
eh, i don't know about this.
i think the enneagram is a pretty wishy-washy system, but I will say that I don't identify with 9 at all and I identify with 6 pretty well.
EII; E6(w5)
i am flakey
eh, that might work.
some are more generalized and more well-thought out than others. i do think that 9 is probably the best overall fit with EII (and i hate the idea of EII 4, which some people have suggested). however, a 6 EII is not something that i'd considered really at all.
in this sense, your feedback is quite valuable in at the least bringing up the possibility and making me think about it.
Last edited by niffweed17; 09-04-2008 at 12:33 AM.
Interesting. What information did you use to come to these conclusions?
Some seem ok and others seem way off.
EII 4w5
so/sx (?)
I like your list and I agree with most of it. Except for maybe I'd put E2 higher in the list of the EIE and E4 one or two rows up on the SLI list.
Anyways, I am curious whether you could derive my socionics or enneagram type from your table and this graph.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Originally Posted by Gilly
socio: INFp - IEI
ennea: 4w5 sp/sx
**********
Originally Posted by Mark Twain
Niff himself is type 4, and he's ILI.
Inversed Sociotype-Enneagram correlations:
Scale:
3: Best fit
2: Possible
1: Pretty much impossible
1
3: LSI, LII, EII
2: ESI, EIE
1: Everything else
2
3: ESE, SEI
2: ESI, IEE, IEI, EII, EIE
1: Everything else
3
3: EIE
2: IEI, ESE, ILE, SLE, LIE
1: Everything else
4
3: IEI
2: EIE, SEI, LII, ILI
1: Everything else
5
3: ILI, LII
2: SLI, ILE, LIE, LSI
1: Everything else
6
3: ESI
2: ILE, LII, ESE, SEI, LSI, IEI, EIE, SEE, ILI, LIE, SLI, EII, IEE
1: SLE, LSE
7
3: ILE, SLE, SEE, IEE
2: ESE, EIE, SEI
1: Everything else
8
3: SLE, LSE, LSI
2: LIE, SLI, SEE, ESE
1: Everything else
9
3: SEI, SLI,
2: IEI, EII, IEE
1: Everything else
[Subject to change]
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
i'll respond to those parts that i really disagree with.
ESI, IEI, and EII would all probably make very poor twos.
LIEs would make atrocious 3s. i think an SEE would be a much better 3 than LIE, and maybe also LSI.3
3: EIE
2: IEI, ESE, ILE, SLE, LIE
1: Everything else
SEI, LII, and ILI are all horrible 4s.4
3: IEI
2: EIE, SEI, LII, ILI
1: Everything else
i can't see an LSI as a good 5.5
3: ILI, LII
2: SLI, ILE, LIE, LSI
1: Everything else
6all of SEI, SEE, ESE are probably poor sixes. i think i'd take LSE over any of them.
3: ESI
2: ILE, LII, ESE, SEI, LSI, IEI, EIE, SEE, ILI, LIE, SLI, EII, IEE
1: SLE, LSE
why is SLI or ESE a good 8? also LIE is at least as good as LSE, and ESI is at least as good as LSI.8
3: SLE, LSE, LSI
2: LIE, SLI, SEE, ESE
1: Everything else
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Originally Posted by Gilly
Why the hell do so many people think incorrectly that LSEs are not prototypical 8s? Just because they don't value Se? And since when are LSEs often 6s? No sense at all there, IMO.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
LSEs want to control everything around them?
Umm...not necessarily any more or less than an SLE or LSI, and probably moreso than any LIE or ESI, IME. I really don't see ESI as a good candidate for 8, tbh.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
Umm...not necessarily any more or less than an SLE or LSI, and probably moreso than any LIE or ESI, IME. I really don't see ESI as a good candidate for 8, tbh.