This describes how ++- types are lively :
This describes how --+ types are not lively :
Do they dualise each other ?
I'll probably post more videos later
This describes how ++- types are lively :
This describes how --+ types are not lively :
Do they dualise each other ?
I'll probably post more videos later
You didn't answer my question at all.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
Ooh I see... why didn't you just say SLE-7 entry was missing ? I'll put on the errata, and probably make a correction later (I'm gonna go to bed, it's very late)Originally Posted by Gilly
I changed my mind. Entry is corrected, but I'm gonna go to bed anyway.
There's some distant possibility. If you find some valid examples, I'd be glad to consider the SEI-2 case.
I expect them to be mainly preservational.
Usually, Process IP types are inclined to produce very few neurotransmitters. They are the least lively types. I think an IEI is more likely to be E2 than an SEI.
What about 2 ESI? SLI 5?
I know a 6 SLI for sure.
EII 4w5
so/sx (?)
Do you have videos or such ? I think these combinations may be quite possible.
ILE is compatible with 0+-, even if the prototypical 0+- would be an LIE, like Bill Gates.
0+-'s look somewhat like Sevens. They are the typical expressive idiosyncratic geeks. ILE's are pretty geeky.
ILE's are flexible and are more initiating. They look like geeks. LII's are rigid normalizers. They look like philosophers. We are physiologically the same type, and cognitively quite the same (Static Intuitive Logicals or "Heavy Researchers"), except that I adaptto
, focusing on
This may illustrate how an ESI-7 (+-+) is like.
This istherefore NOT ESE. (tell me if you have objections)
THIS is ESE-7 +-+.
Music is quite useful to describe physiological states and physiological-cognitive correlations. For example, you want to compose some --+ music ; you can easily do itrather.
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In your eyes. It didn't used to be. You've sucked all the NF out of it, and turned it into an ST institution.
Then they're not Sixes. A Six is determined by the fact that they either fight their fear, or are afraid of it.- Sixes that aren't phobic or counterphobic, but rather resemble soft Eights
I could easily imagine this. He probably had a Four wing.Classical definitions may lead to mistypings. For example, I typed an LSI priest I know first as E8 - but he was even-tempered, he couldn't be E8. He seemed - and is - energitic as an E8, then I retyped him as E1. But E1 aren't. I believed E3 Introtims didn't exist. He was actually a Preservational 3 LSI. That may sound retarded. Remember Metallica-like bands. You may have an idea of the mood of E3 Introtims. And this is no joke. Quit retarded n00b-eysenckian-keirsevian-myersian-like typings. We're dealing with socionics, not MBTT.
Rubbish.Classical definitions are : Intimate for types 2, 3, and 7 ; Social for types 4, 6 and 8 ; Preservational for types 1, 5, and 9. That usually makes someone think : "types 2, 3, 7 and 8 statistically extroverted and types 4, 5, 6, and 9 statistically introverted.
I highly doubt that there are as many Extroverted Fives as there are Extraverted Sixes.One - 50%
Two - 70%
Three - 70%
Four - 10%
Five - 30%
Six - 30%
Seven - 90%
Eight - 50%
Nine - 50%
I agree, except for Six.Very High : Type 7
High : Types 2 and 3
Moderate : types 8, 9, and 1.
Low : Types 5 and 6
Very Low : Type 4
According to your earlier observations, this could easily be an Eight.Intimate subtype : typical Counterphobic - seeking security in an aggressive manner. Conquering to world, intimidating others or even desensitising oneself. But fear is still present.
You're getting mixed up between what you think is a Six and what is actually a self-preservationist Eight.Preservational subtype : not phobic or counterphobic - seeking security in a withdrawn manner, tries to defend already got security.
Why are you even bothering with this then?For those who don't like the Enneagram itself (personnally I don't too much either), there's an alternative
Ahhhh, now everything makes sense. machintrucagram.Let's call it Model Φ (or Model Phi).
Here are the correlations that make no sense:
ILE Nine (too active for a Nine, in mind, body and spirit)
LSI Seven (IJ is the worst correlation for a Seven; it simply makes no sense)
SEE Nine (how could a procrastinatory lazy person look anything like a person of action?)
ESI Seven (IJ, again, doesn't correlate with a Seven)
ESI Eight (???)
No such thing as an EII Nine (this makes less sense than ESI Eight)
Come on, dude, quit being so n00b-like, who use socionics as a physiological typology.
Extrotim Fives are quite easy to find. A typical example is Bill Gates. That retard is LIE.
I know an E5 that I mistyped LII because I was getting narrow-minded like you, and supposed that E5 = Introtim autistic retard.
I'm myself Myersian ENTJ, and I'm E5.
Extrotim Sixes are quite easy to find : they are usually counterphobic. Intimate Sixes are mostly LIE's.
You're confusing Intimate Six with Intimate Eight. A typical -+0 type whould be Zhirinovsky (LSE), whereas a typical -++ type would be Machiavelli (LIE).
ILE Nine (too active for a Nine, in mind, body and spirit)
You may mistype them as Fives or Sevens. They are usually geeky, goofy, and initiating. Be open-minded !!! Can't a Nine be an Extrotim !?
LSI Seven (IJ is the worst correlation for a Seven; it simply makes no sense)
No. it's IP. 25% of Preservational Sevens are Introtims. They usually look like Twos.
SEE Nine (how could a procrastinatory lazy person look anything like a person of action?)
I have known a girl who was SEE-9. That's right : high well-beingness, low anxiety, and low energy.
ESI Seven (IJ, again, doesn't correlate with a Seven)
Doesn't correlate, but exists. Most Sevens, even Preservational, are Extrotims.
ESI Eight (???)
ESI is even more prototypical of Preservational Eight than LSI, because ESI's are negativists. They are pessimistic rednecky retards, and don't really look "ethical". Just like ******, he an EIE rednecky retard, he's hostile and doesn't look like ethical.
No such thing as an EII Nine (this makes less sense than ESI Eight)
I didn't check EII-9. You need to consult an ophtalmologist.
I think I found a SLE-1 : YOU. If however you're not LSI...
Sorry, I never was that good at being a raving nerd.
I agree.Extrotim Fives are quite easy to find. A typical example is Bill Gates. That retard is LIE.
?I know an E5 that I mistyped LII because I was getting narrow-minded like you, and supposed that E5 = Introtim autistic retard.
I doubt it.I'm myself Myersian ENTJ, and I'm E5.
Again, I agree. However, you have to remember that Sixes aren't either phobic or counterphobic; they swing between these two states of mind.Extrotim Sixes are quite easy to find : they are usually counterphobic. Intimate Sixes are mostly LIE's.
While others might disagree, I'd personally agree that Machiavelli was an LIE. Do you think Sun Tzu was as well?You're confusing Intimate Six with Intimate Eight. A typical -+0 type whould be Zhirinovsky (LSE), whereas a typical -++ type would be Machiavelli (LIE).
Yes, but not one with a Ne and Ti ego block.You may mistype them as Fives or Sevens. They are usually geeky, goofy, and initiating. Be open-minded !!! Can't a Nine be an Extrotim !?
I could imagine an SLI Seven, but not an IJ Seven, in any form, be it NT, NF, ST or SJ. Doesn't happen. I'd like you to find me an example of an IJ Seven, or at least explain how a Seven could be an IJ, without all your pseudo-scientific bullshit.No. it's IP. 25% of Preservational Sevens are Introtims. They usually look like Twos.
And you would attribute low energy to Se base function? Lord, kill me now.I have known a girl who was SEE-9. That's right : high well-beingness, low anxiety, and low energy.
What the fuck are you talking about? An ESI Seven is not extraverted!ESI Seven (IJ, again, doesn't correlate with a Seven)
Doesn't correlate, but exists. Most Sevens, even Preservational, are Extrotims.
And you call yourself an ENTJ.ESI is even more prototypical of Preservational Eight than LSI, because ESI's are negativists. They are pessimistic rednecky retards, and don't really look "ethical". Just like ******, he an EIE rednecky retard, he's hostile and doesn't look like ethical.
Fool, you are claiming that there is no such thing as an EII Nine! I am rejecting said claim! I'm not inconsistent with my grammar. Learn to read.No such thing as an EII Nine (this makes less sense than ESI Eight)
I didn't check EII-9. You need to consult an ophtalmologist.
...I think I found a SLE-1 : YOU. If however you're not LSI...
Or not. I've researched plenty into my type, and understand that I am far from a One.
I could imagine an SLI Seven, but not an IJ Seven, in any form, be it NT, NF, ST or SJ. Doesn't happen. I'd like you to find me an example of an IJ Seven, or at least explain how a Seven could be an IJ, without all your pseudo-scientific bullshit.
And you would attribute low energy to Se base function? Lord, kill me now.
What the fuck are you talking about? An ESI Seven is not extraverted!
And you call yourself an ENTJ.
Or not. I've researched plenty into my type, and understand that I am far from a One.
I didn't say I was LIE. I said I was ENTJ.
However, E1 and E7 are just the same : narrow-minded.
Examples of IJ sevens :
- Catherine Zeta Jones (LSI)
- Lauren Bacall (ESI)
- ...mhh they're quite difficult to find... that's somehow 10% of Sevens.
I've got an hard time to imagine an IP type with the +*+ profile. Even +-+.
What dude !? You adhere to the NT, NF, ST or SJ stuff ? Come on, you're
You need to check your logic. Or you may be an SEE.
OK. Let's assume this :
All socionic types can have all physiological profiles
Just in order to be more open-minded. Why can't Ones be irrational and Twos logical !?
There ARE correlations :
- The nearest to +++, the most the probability to be an Extrotim.
- 62% of -** types are Negativists, 62% of +** types are Positivists
- 62% of *0* types are Process, 62% of *+* types are Result.
- 62% of 0** types are Logical, 62% of +** types are Ethical.
- 62% of **+ types are Sensing, 62% of **- types are Intuitive.
- 62% of **0 types are Rational, 62% of **- types are Irrational.
It's not exactly 62%, but it's exactly the golden ratio, which is like 61.8034%. I say 62% because it's simpler.
SEE-9 impossible ? read this :
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/index.php?storyID=7312
The abusing dude is SEE +--
http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/ar...rrelations.pdf
This is the most retarded thing I ever seen in the Enneagram world. It seems to confuse Fives with Sixes, Fours with Nines, Eights with Threes, or such. Just like a whole bunch of retarded caricatural myersian-eysenckian-compliant dumb n000000bs. Maybe the dude who made that retarded list was E3 or E6.
BTW, the worst psychologist I ever seen in my life was an LIE-3. A total retarded liar. For him, nobody's OK except him. I still want to kill/harm him but I won't do it because I don't want to go to Hell or jail. LOVE YOUR ENEMIES.
It's okay to say retarded things when you're a child or a teenager, but he was a MATURE ADULT, so there's NOT A SINGLE EXCUSE to act like a jerk.
I changed my mind. My order of hate is now :
4 3 6 8 1 5 9 7 2
Sixes and Eights are now better than Threes. You can see that I hate Threes.
At least Eights, though intimidating, are truth-oriented, like Fives ; when an E8 is angry after you, you're most likely to deserve it. But when it's an E3, woooo... it's just an egocentric jerky immature reaction to maintain self-image. Sixes do so too.
Who was E8 ? Moses. That LSE dude was charged to make Jews respect the Natural Law. He fighted idolatry. He was a very cool dude.
Who was E3 ? Well... I don't want to hear stories about Threes, I want them all to die lol.
No, seriously, Threes may be cool dudes, with an high sense of efficiency. But that's not frequent.
Sorry, I felt high blood pressure. I needed to say that.
EDIT: this article is retarded too : http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/ar...ersonality.pdf
if you honestly believe that INTjs aren't 4s and that INTps are 4s you are pretty dumb; 4 sounds nothing like an INTp
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Serge Gainsbourg is ILI-4 - He's too moody to be E5.
Another example of ILI-4 : Ignatus Loyola.
I also had a very aggressive ILI-4 classmate that I mistyped as E8.
Four means Depressive and Detached, i.e. Low Dopamin and Serotonin levels.
From what I've read 4 is about a need to be original and creative, not depressive.
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Read this : http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/articles/NArtTina.asp
If not physiology, what do Enneagram measures for you ?
...
And?
I'd say there are more open-minded Sevens than there are open-minded Ones, by their very nature. However, I'm sure there are narrow-minded Sevens.However, E1 and E7 are just the same : narrow-minded.
Examples of IJ sevens :
- Catherine Zeta Jones (LSI)
- Lauren Bacall (ESI)
This makes no sense to me.I've got an hard time to imagine an IP type with the +*+ profile. Even +-+.
What are you talking about?What dude !? You adhere to the NT, NF, ST or SJ stuff ? Come on, you're
I don't see where my logic as at fault.You need to check your logic. Or you may be an SEE.
Im not questioning the physiology of it, I'm questioning your correlations with the socionics types.
Four
Low activity. Low sense of well-being, reactive, moody, aggressive.
Medium activity. Some anxiety, good arousal level, stimulated but not restless
Low confidence, drive, energy, & endurance.
Five
Medium Activity. Stable mood neutral sense of well-being.
High activity. High anxiety, restless mind, high-strung, over-stimulated
Low confidence, drive, energy, & endurance.
If this isn't proof that my revision of model A is correct then nothing is. 5 and 4 both have low dopamine levels. +Ne/-Ni with a +Se/-Si agenda is gonna lack willpower and drive. One could easily look at that and see the correlation.
But anyways.... INTjs are 5w4 love originality philosophy and all of the other unique stuff, INTps are something else... INTps like routine; they don't prefer things that are unique and stimulating.
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I'm fairly certain I'm either 5w4 or 4w5.
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Five with four-wing
Average 5/4 is the prototype personality for research scientists.
Analytical and detached from their emotions, but passionate about beauty
and truth, they want to find the ultimate, simple explanation for
everything. Their intellectual fiveness makes them likely to engage in
long, professorial monologues, while their four-wing gives them a shy
self-consciousness. Unlike the more depressive 4/5, they are likely to have
a generally optimistic view, although they can get depressed if they become
overwhelmed by the world's demands. 5/4s are usually less interested in
social interactions than the more other-dependent 5/6.
Balanced 5/4 is more able to participate in life. When the fiveish desire
to withdraw and sort things out is no longer compulsive, then the
consciously chosen time alone becomes a tool for understanding the world,
rather than an entrapping habit. The fourish passion for beauty emerges as
the conscious result of harnessing the emotions rather than being their
slave. Healthy 5/4s begin to deeply understand the simple, elegant way that
the awesome complexity of the world emerges from fundamental principles.
They find great joy in watching and learning.
When the perception of five and the passion of four are augmented by
eight's power and leadership, plus one's intuitive wisdom, clear
comprehensions can be transmitted to others. Very balanced 5/4s can be
tremendously creative teachers of How The World Works, who explain things
with clean, elegant sentences. Yet for all its simple clarity, their
teaching carries with it a profound appreciation for the subtle beauty of
Creation. (Come with me on a journey of discovery. Let's look together at
the awsome profundity of Nature and Consciousness.)
Unbalanced 5/4 gets lost in the details. The compulsive analysis of five
can lead to elaborate pseudo-logical constructions designed to explain
everything. The four-wing's emotionality adds a flavor of dramatic
hopelessness. Others Simply Do Not Understand. No one could understand. So
5/4 retreats to a place of safety, hoping to escape from view, continuing
to uncover the truth. There is little to no social involvement.
In the extreme, the panic and scattered mania of seven combine with twoish
self-congratulatory hysteria. In a seeming reversal, 5/4 can come back into
the world, awkward and excitable, ready to bolt but equally ready to
passionately defend a bizarre, baroque fantasy world. As inner tension
builds, schizoid withdrawal from reality becomes more and more likely. The
end result is a kind of terrified fugue, completely cut off from reality.
The only escape from the constant overwhelming chaos is inward.
5/4 is generally not much into appearance. Reasonable, ordinary clothing,
not too bold. Comfort is quite important. Thick glasses are common Ñ maybe
a result of a great deal of careful examination of tiny objects during
childhood? There is often a rumpled, dissheveled quality. The exceptions
are those well-dressed 5/4's whose four-wings impel them towards an
aesthetically appealing appearance. Also, note that sometimes unhealthy
5/4s can dress and act in sevenishly colorful ways.
Some 5/4s find work that combines intellect and aesthetics. Cosmologists,
futurists, science fiction authors. Others dive deeply into some highly
specialized discipline, becoming computer programmers, nuclear physicists,
theoretical scientists, molecular biologists, surface scientists, or any of
a thousand other highly technical jobs. There are 5/4 science reporters,
poets, painters, and photographers. Of course, 5/4s can also be found doing
many other kinds of work.
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I think you're a 4w5, hitta. No offence intended, but the way you wine about how people don't take you into account, how no one is inventive enough and how everyone's firmly set in their ideas is textbook Four speak.
I found an extremely simple way to explain S, N, and D levels :
Serotonin Level = Motivation for INPUTTING
Norepinephrin Level = Motivation for PROCESSING
Dopamin Level = Motivation for OUTPUTTING
Yes, I'm doing an analogy with computers. It's not really like Gulenko said, S = input, F = output, and NT = processing.
A human being is merely a biological computer with a conscience, i.e. will and intelligence.
EDIT: I presented a possible dualisation of enneagram types. I coded the post in ROT13 because I don't like it, and to let it still be read.
Abj V pna rkcynva ubj raarntenz glcrf qhnyvfr :
Fbzr fgeratgu bs Vachg qhnyvfrf jvgu Vairefr fgeratgu bs Bhgchg naq ivpr-irefn.
Gura :
Gjb qhnyvfrf jvgu Svir
Guerr qhnyvfrf jvgu Fvk
Sbhe qhnyvfrf jvgu Frira
Rvtug qhnyvfrf jvgu Avar
Bar qhnyvfrf jvgu vgfrys
Gurersber :
Vs n fbpvbavp glcr rkvfgf va pbawhapgvba jvgu na raarntenz glcr va gur fnzr uhzna orvat, qhnyf bs rnpu znl rkvfg va nabgure uhzna orvat.
Sbe rknzcyr :
- YVV-5 jvgu RFR-2
- YVR-3 jvgu RFV-6
- FRV-4 jvgu VYR-7
- FYR-8 jvgu VRV-9
- YFR-1 jvgu RVV-1
However, I still think that Enneagram may be interpretated as the physiological part of Information Metabolism.
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So...we should only hit on girls with high serotonin level
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
I thought you were pulling a niffweed, machintruc.
This isn't always the case. With the correlations, fair enough, but I don't think an Eight always dualises with a Nine. I think the IEI can easily and almost always will be a Four. Think about the IEIs on this forum. How many of them are 4w5s? At least 7/8s of them.
http://www.9types.com/writeup/enneagram_marriages.html
Maybe this document will tell how enneatypes dualise...
I just disagree when the dude said "enneagram types aren't evenly distributed"
They're not. You're far more likely to come across a 6w7 or 7w6 than you are a 5w4 or an 8w9.
If cognitive (socionic) types are evenly distributed, why physiological (enneagram) types aren't ? That'd be a lack of consistency.
Why? In Keirsey's theory, there are more SPs and SJs than there are NTs and NFs. Why must they be equal?
Not only that, looking at the sources, which in this case can both be connected to Jung. The 4 is a "saner" version of Jung's Introverted Intuitive type. The individuals Jung was actually describing seemed to beleading in socionics, but more likely
than
So it makes perfect sense that IEIs will most frequently be 4s.
KTT, though very simple, thus appealing, is just totally bogus.
I still don't see how "temperaments" can be based on such non-symmetrical thing :
I have read something very funny about this :
It's something like
S = woman, N = man
T = rich, F = poor
J = skinny, P = fat
SP = fat women
SJ = skinny women
NT = rich men
NF = poor men
On the Berens' theory (from www.16types.com), J and P are based on the concrete things, whereas T and F are based on the abstract things.
But I don't really know how such patterns can really generate "temperaments". I don't think socionic first and fourth variables (E/I and J/P) are temperaments either.
At least, some psychologists such as Eysenck have a symmetrical grid for temperaments : Eysenck has such grid :
I'm interpreting like that :
Extro/Intro = high/low overall neurotransmitter production
Stable/Unstable = high/low serotonin production
I still don't know how such thing can relate to SP-SJ-NF-NT, or you may even interpret such quaternion system in an other way.
When I ride on the metro, sometimes I try to type others (physiologically), and I see that physiological types are evenly distributed.
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Socionics types "common social roles" and Enneagram Types Correlation
Common social roles seem to be short descriptions of different variants of types. Short, though.
EIE :
1. The exalted prophet who is constantly telling people about what will happen or is happening unnoticeably and driving home how wonderful or how awful that is. TWO, SIX
2. The true servant of the arts who has lost himself or herself in artistic expression and is ever an artist/poet/actor/musician, no matter where he is or whom he is with. TWO
3. The player or yuppie who rises to the top in corporations where "walking the walk" and "talking the talk" is most prized, especially by optimizing the impression of his performance over its reality. SEVEN
4. The hypochondriac who is constantly ill with some strange and menacing illness that cannot be seen. SIX
5. The motivational speaker who uses his personal charisma to get people fired up about the things that really matter. TWO, THREE
ILE :
1. The lawyer who will argue about anything with anyone, making no distinction between logic and rhetoric. THREE, SIX
2. The clown with a spontaneous and often critical wit. SEVEN
3. The outgoing nerd who makes jokes about things like parabolas and wears things like fishermen's vests to work and to parties because all the pockets are convenient for holding stuff. FIVE, SEVEN
SLE
1. The alpha male (or female) who is constantly preoccupied with his territory and social status, threats to that territory, and making sure everyone recognizes his leadership and status. 8w7
2. The challenger or revolutionary who rejects existing authority and organizational structures and tries to overturn them and establish his own system, or simply overturn them for fun without putting anything else in their place. cp6, 7w8
3. The rogue artist who revels in his or her own naughtiness, likes to shock and appall audiences, and doesn't take his own work seriously. cp6, 7w8
LSI
1. The policeman or referee who keeps a sharp eye on how well people are adhering to the rules and takes it upon himself to correct or punish deviants. 1w9
2. The career bureaucrat or administrator who rises through the ranks of traditional administrative structures (government organs, large corporations, and other large, hierarchical structures), carefully performing his duties and winning in the long run. 1w9, 3w4
3. The Rational Artist who sees music, film, or visual art as a language to be deciphered. 6w5, maybe 5w4 and 5w6
4. The cult devotee who is swayed by the rhetoric of visionaries, and becomes devoted to executing their plans. 6w5
5. The logistics analyst who rigorously but realistically devises the optimal operating procedure for any given task. 5w6
LSE
1. The social protestor who campaigns against deceit, mismanagement, injustice, or disorder in society, without necessarily offering a clear solution. 1w2
2. The busy worker bee who spends considerable effort on the quotidian details of work, while neglecting the "big picture". 1w9, 3w2
SLI
1. The quiet individualist who marches to his or her own drumbeat, cultivating eccentric, yet enjoyable interests and pretty much ignoring everything else. Five, Seven, 9w8
2. Mr. or Mrs. down-to-earth, who takes a dry and simple attitude towards everything, deflating all excitement and elevated emotions and sentiments. Five, Nine
Here, for example, SLE-3, LSI-8, LSE-8, LSE-6, and SLI-6 are missing.
generalized enneagram correlations
- ILE - typically 7,6. tolerable fits as 3,5,9. hard to see with 1,2,4,8.
- SEI - stereotypically 9, 2 works well also. tolerable fits as 1,3,7. questionable fit with 4 and 6. hard to see with 5,8, but 9w8 is fine.
- ESE - typically 2, but also 3. tolerable fits with 1,6,7,9. questionable as 8. hard to see with 4,5.
- LII - closest fits with 1,5,6,9. questionable as 4. hard to see as 2,3,7,8.
- EIE - typically 3, but also 2 and maybe 4. tolerable fits with 6,7,8. questionable as 1. hard to see as 5,9.
- LSI - closest fits with 1,5,6,8. tolerable fit with 3. questionable as 7. hard to see as 2,4.
- SLE - closest fits with 7,8. tolerable fit as 3. questionable as 6,9. hard to see as 1,2,4,5.
- IEI - IEIs seem predominantly to be 4s. 4 and IEI is interesting because IEI is really the only sociotype which fits the profile of 4 very reasonably; while not impossible, it might be hard to see other types as 4. might be tolerable as 3,5,6,7,9 and hard to see as 1,2,8.
- SEE - closest fits with 6,7,8. questionable as 3,9. hard to see as 1,2,4,5.
- ILI - typically 5, but 6 also works well. tolerable as 4. questionable as 7,8,9. hard to see as 2,3.
- LIE - closest fits with 1,8. tolerable as 5,6,7. questionable but difficult to see as a good 3. hard to see as 2,4,9.
- ESI - closest fits with 1,6. tolerable as 5,8. questionable as 2,3,5,7,9. hard to see as 4.
- LSE - no home among the enneagram. tolerable as 1,2,5,6,7,8,9. hard to see as 3 or 4.
- EII - closest fits with 1,9. tolerable as 6. questionable as 2,4. hard to see as 3,5,7,8.
- IEE - closest fits with 6,7,9. questionable as 2. hard to see as 1,3,4,5,8.
- SLI - closest fits as 1,5,6,9. tolerable as 7,8. hard as 2,3,4.
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- 1 - best as rational types, LII, LSI, maybe ESI/EII/LSE/LII, possibly SLI/SEI.
- 2 - stereotypically ESE, maybe also SEI/EIE
- 3 - stereotypically EIE, but decent as SLE and may work as gamma extrovert or IEI.
- 4 - predominantly IEI. possibly ILI or EIE, but other things seem somewhat dubious.
- 5 - best as logical introverts, perhaps best as ILI, but SLI/LII/LSI also are decent and maybe LIE/ILE.
- 6 - can be a wide variety of types. types that commonly seem 6ish are ESI/LSI/LII/ILE/SLI/IEE/ILI and maybe EII, SEE, and LSE.
- 7 - best with any extroverted irrational types, but also fits reasonably well with Fe dominants and perhaps Fe creatives.
- 8 - Se ego types and LIE/EIE.
- 9 - stereotypically SEI, but also good fits for EII/LII/SLI/IEE, maybe ESI/IEI/ESE
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