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    D - Si - Epicure 24
    F - Ti - Logician 22
    E - Te - Professional 21
    A - Ne - Fantastist 17
    B - Ni - Foreteller
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    H - Fi - Peacemaker 13
    C - Se - Winner
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    G - Fe - Romantic
    11

    Can I be delta now?

    (I think the test sucks, yes, at least the Se-questions. Who in their right mind will score high on being an argumentative, vengeful trouble seeker?)

    To balance the test, I suggest similar questions for the other functions:
    Ne: "I love the look on people's faces when they cringe in pain over my goofy comments"
    Ni: "I adore the feeling of manipulating people and seek situations where I can position myself to control others from inside".
    Ti: "I adore crushing people logically by making them feel stupid"
    Te: "I love ridiculing people for doing things wrong and to show them how I'm better in every way"
    Si: "I crave the feeling of being powerful when I use my parental authority to make people feel like little children that I am above"
    Fi: "I adore shaming people I don't like, so that they want to suicide"
    Fe: "I love destroying the mood of people I don't want to join in the fun, so that they want to go home and isolate forever."

    I'm SURE such people exist, but I don't think these questions fit well in a test....

    I often wonder about the way Se is presented by Russians. Do they hate Se? Or do they think "bully behavior" is "strength"? I guess Se-egos seek to be seen as "strong" and "impressive" - and seek to BE strong and impressive, and the only way these Se-questions can be anything but a misunderstanding of Se, is if being outrageously insensitive is seen as "strength" and impressive in Russia. I could buy that as a possibility, seeing how Russians seem to love Putin (who's a Se-creative bully (LSI))...


    Edit: Aixelsyd wrote this in chat, and somehow I found it relevant to this post:
    aixelsyd: i'm going to assume type goals i.e. SLE: divide and conquer and SEE: defend and retaliate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ananke View Post
    Who in their right mind will score high on being an argumentative, vengeful trouble seeker?
    You did. But I think you might have incorrectly used the 1-3 range for answering the questions, omitting the 0. Your numbers imply that you've essentially agreed with every single statement of this test.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

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    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Park View Post
    You did. But I think you might have incorrectly used the 1-3 range for answering the questions, omitting the 0. Your numbers imply that you've essentially agreed with every single statement of this test.
    I DID use 0!
    I just find it very easy to agree. Agreeable, me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ananke View Post
    D - Si - Epicure 24
    F - Ti - Logician 22
    E - Te - Professional 21
    A - Ne - Fantastist 17
    B - Ni - Foreteller
    16
    H - Fi - Peacemaker 13
    C - Se - Winner
    13
    G - Fe - Romantic
    11

    Can I be delta now?

    (I think the test sucks, yes, at least the Se-questions. Who in their right mind will score high on being an argumentative, vengeful trouble seeker?)

    To balance the test, I suggest similar questions for the other functions:
    Ne: "I love the look on people's faces when they cringe in pain over my goofy comments"
    Ni: "I adore the feeling of manipulating people and seek situations where I can position myself to control others from inside".
    Ti: "I adore crushing people logically by making them feel stupid"
    Te: "I love ridiculing people for doing things wrong and to show them how I'm better in every way"
    Si: "I crave the feeling of being powerful when I use my parental authority to make people feel like little children that I am above"
    Fi: "I adore shaming people I don't like, so that they want to suicide"
    Fe: "I love destroying the mood of people I don't want to join in the fun, so that they want to go home and isolate forever."

    I'm SURE such people exist, but I don't think these questions fit well in a test....

    I often wonder about the way Se is presented by Russians. Do they hate Se? Or do they think "bully behavior" is "strength"? I guess Se-egos seek to be seen as "strong" and "impressive" - and seek to BE strong and impressive, and the only way these Se-questions can be anything but a misunderstanding of Se, is if being outrageously insensitive is seen as "strength" and impressive in Russia. I could buy that as a possibility, seeing how Russians seem to love Putin (who's a Se-creative bully (LSI))...


    Edit: Aixelsyd wrote this in chat, and somehow I found it relevant to this post:
    aixelsyd: i'm going to assume type goals i.e. SLE: divide and conquer and SEE: defend and retaliate
    I found the Se questions pretty good actually. Do you mean I'm not in my right mind if I admit I'm argumentative and whatnot? What do you see as so wrong with that? Sure it's not the most polite way of existence but luckily you don't have to constantly hold yourself to all the silly standards of behaviour out there.

    Overall I didn't see the Se section as just being about bullying. It's way beyond that simple stereotype. So I don't buy the Russian explanation.

    Btw I liked the idea of putting in questions about behaviour that's typically considered as negative. Yeah, we need a test that's full of those questions and nothing else

    Though the Ni one is kinda cool too.



    Quote Originally Posted by ryoka14 View Post
    The questions are looking at a specific stacking, not a function I think. That's why the key has the names of a type and not "leading Ne" and why a seemingly Si question can be in the "Fi" section for example...
    I like the way you put that, I agree it looks like that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ananke View Post
    Ne: "I love the look on people's faces when they cringe in pain over my goofy comments"


    Quote Originally Posted by Persephone View Post
    Who the heck cares about detailed answers, people? Post results or nothing.
    It looks like those are all from the questionnaire: people respond to the questionable, the answers end up in this thread, and they don't come back to tally them up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nondescript View Post
    Why don't yall just do my version? It's...better if you take your time to switch the brain on.
    I don't know whether it would be any better, but I want to try it for comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    I don't know whether it would be any better, but I want to try it for comparison.
    Heh why did you quote my results?

    I don't think nondescript's version would be better. Nothing personal but just...no better theoretical foundation behind it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myst View Post
    Heh why did you quote my results?

    I don't think nondescript's version would be better. Nothing personal but just...no better theoretical foundation behind it.
    Because three of us took it twice, and I wanted to compare the before and after.

    His connections seem no more valid than the originals, but I was in the mood to chart, so I spent an hour and a half making a spreadsheet of his teal post. I gave values based on his implied values, and it ended up incredibly biased in favor of Beta (Se/Ti & Ti/Se were absurdly popular for him):

    Fe 17.2
    Fi 8.325
    Te 13.45
    Ti 28.075
    Ne 6
    Ni 9.575
    Se 22.45
    Si 19.45

    So I'm weighting the scores and plugging my answers in...
    20.5 -
    20.0 -
    19.6 -
    18.4 -
    15.9 -
    14.3 -
    10.9 -
    5.9 -

    I'd say I wasted an hour, but I would've spent it doing something else entertaining but ultimately useless, so there's not a big difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    Because three of us took it twice, and I wanted to compare the before and after.
    Quite reliable, no?


    His connections seem no more valid than the originals, but I was in the mood to chart, so I spent an hour and a half making a spreadsheet of his teal post. I gave values based on his implied values, and it ended up incredibly biased in favor of Beta (Se/Ti & Ti/Se were absurdly popular for him):
    Er, how did you calculate these values?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myst View Post
    Er, how did you calculate these values?
    If there were question marks after it, I made it worth like 1/4 of a point. If it was something like Ti/Se, I gave a point to each of those. If it was "pure Fe," Fe got 1.5 points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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