Favorite poems and quotations.

[Adam Strange]

“What I cry out for, like every being, with my whole life, and all my earthly passion, is something very different from an equal to cherish: it is a God to adore. To adore; that means, to lose oneself in the unfathomable, to plunge into the inexhaustible, to find peace in the incorruptible, to be absorbed in defined immensity, to offer oneself to the fire and the transparency, to annihilate oneself in proportion as one becomes more deliberately conscious of oneself, and to give of one’s deepest to that whose depth has no end. Whom, then, can we adore? The more man becomes man, the more will he become prey to a need, a need that is always more explicit, more subtle, and more magnificent—the need to adore.”

— Teilhard de Chardin

Super-Victim, probably Sx-first. Lots of idealism and abstract absolutes. IEI?

[ashlesha]

Super-Victim, probably Sx-first. Lots of idealism and abstract absolutes. IEI?

Idk, would u say victim types can find that need meet in earthly ways? I thought it pretty closely mirrored my desire (still unsatisfied) to believe in religion.

[Adam Strange]

Idk, would u say victim types can find that need meet in earthly ways? I thought it pretty closely mirrored my desire (still unsatisfied) to believe in religion.

Yes. It can be met in very earthly ways. Lol. I often see SLE's state that they will "get duals"/"be successful" by acting like superheroes. The SLE HA is "to be loved", worshiped and adored. So IEI Victims tend to adore the objects of their affection. Sexually, I think IEI's want to be dominated. They are either on their knees or are artfully dodging. But any type can have some shade of that.

I don't think every Victim type is so extremely like IEI's, at least not to the same extent of "adoring" their mates or God or some metaphysical concept. Personally, I want my SO to be healthy (4D Si) and strong (3D Se) and assertive in the real world, but I'm not going to worship or blindly adore them or automatically subjugate my wishes to theirs. My duals tend to lack direction and foresight, and so should not be the only driver of the car.

Your desire "to believe" is also stated to be the HA of ESI's and LSI's. 2D Ni, in other words.

From what I have seen of ESI's and LSI's, their desire "to believe" isn't a desire to believe in a god or a superior power so much as it is a need to be assured of a secure future. That is the "believe" part. I feel that this misinterpretation started as an imperfect translation from the Russian or something, and just hasn't been corrected yet.

If you find yourself doubting that religion can provide you with a secure future, then you should try Money.
Hey, don't you work in a Bank?