Originally Posted by
Pa3s
Some people hold the opinion that national pride has no logical basis. This is quite understandable.
Why should I be proud of my country, although I could not influence the place of my birth? Why
should I be proud of the achievements of German citizens, if I have contributed nothing significant
to it? Instead of their country, people should be proud of themselves and their own individual
success. But is there really any difference? The notion that one could be justifiably proud of their
personal successes, but not on their nationality is difficult to understand from a deterministic
perspective. Although other characteristics of humans are apparently (more) individual, because
they do not apply to so many other people in exactly the same way, it is still not logically possible to
derive the feeling of pride from them. Nothing is ever really earned, as everything is eventually only
the product of the sum of all ongoing processes, which man can not control.
Pride– as well as its antonym shame – are therefore also part of the first level of existence which is applicable only in the subjective context. From an objective point of view, both emotions lack a reasonable basis.