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    sx/sp 7w8
    just figured it out. no wonder I've always felt a relating/comfortability to her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
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    just figured it out. no wonder I've always felt a relating to her.
    Hm, I agree with the Sx/Sp. Not with the 7w8.
    She's rather 6w7, imo.
    And ESI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra View Post
    Hm, I agree with the Sx/Sp. Not with the 7w8.
    She's rather 6w7, imo.
    And ESI.
    Why 6?
    most people type her SLE as far as I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    Why 6?
    most people type her SLE as far as I know.
    Almost all Counterphobic 6s get mistyped as SLE.

    She's counterphobic and fits the SX 6's preoccupation with beauty, being low-key intimidating, and looking fiercely hot.

    If I remember correctly, she's talked about being fearful in some interviews as well, but don't quote me on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra View Post
    Almost all Counterphobic 6s get mistyped as SLE.

    She's counterphobic and fits the SX 6's preoccupation with beauty, being low-key intimidating, and looking fiercely hot.

    If I remember correctly, she's talked about being fearful in some interviews as well, but don't quote me on that.
    um.. all sx first are occupied with being attractive. i guess she can low-key intimidating to some people? but it doesnt seem like shes preoccupied with that at all. its more a natural thing because of the 8 thing. i mean shes into astrology and palmistry... i dont see her pushing any sort of aggressive image.
    shes too chill and not reactive or judging enough to be 6. she doesnt oscillate between opposites either. i dont see it. the only other type ive thought about for her is 3, but 7w8 feels more right. probably has a 3 fix though. or 4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    um.. all sx first are occupied with being attractive. i guess she can low-key intimidating to some people? but it doesnt seem like shes preoccupied with that at all. its more a natural thing because of the 8 thing. i mean shes into astrology and palmistry... i dont see her pushing any sort of aggressive image.
    shes too chill and not reactive or judging enough to be 6. she doesnt oscillate between opposites either. i dont see it. the only other type ive thought about for her is 3, but 7w8 feels more right. probably has a 3 fix though. or 4.
    Her obsession with astrology and palmistry is pretty Ni HA.

    She's certainly got a 4 fix, imo.

    Her tattoos are pretty CP 6 (and 4 fix), btw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra View Post
    Her obsession with astrology and palmistry is pretty Ni HA.

    She's certainly got a 4 fix, imo.

    Her tattoos are pretty CP 6 (and 4 fix), btw.
    her tattoos is the only argument you have for her being 6? alright

    tattoos are a pretty sx thing. they show who you are. i dont see any 6ness in her tattoos though. her tattoos are mainly sx, the yin yang, marilyn monroe (sex symbol), the one where it says about a girl who only knew love until a boy broke her heart is sx/sp. sx/sp is the 4ish masochistic stacking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    her tattoos is the only argument you have for her being 6? alright
    I've already given other arguments.

    Anyway, Type 6 is a type that is to some extent occupied with believing in something.
    Her obsession with astrology points towards that. Someone like Tom Cruise, who I'd also type as 6w7, feels the need to believe in something like Scientology.

    Believing in something "greater" than them gives them a feeling of security.

    And here are some quotes of hers that point at Type 6 pretty obviously.

    But this is not the Type 6 thread, so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra View Post
    I've already given other arguments.

    Anyway, Type 6 is a type that is to some extent occupied with believing in something.
    Her obsession with astrology points towards that. Someone like Tom Cruise, who I'd also type as 6w7, feels the need to believe in something like Scientology.

    Believing in something "greater" than them gives them a feeling of security.

    And here are some quotes of hers that point at Type 6 pretty obviously.

    But this is not the Type 6 thread, so.
    Not really, all types can believe in something (how else would you explain that huge parts of the world are religious? whole countries etc.), and 6s can also not believe in anything. Opposites.
    By your argument every spiritual person in the world is a type 6, which is obviously not true. Spiritualism can be very 7ish, bored of the "real", physical world. Looking for more fun elsewhere. 7 is a fantasy type, like 4 and 9.
    ...being afraid of the dark does not make you a type 6. That's ridiculous.

    Tom Cruise: probably 3 from intuitive impressions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    Not really, all types can believe in something (how else would you explain that huge parts of the world are religious? whole countries etc.), and 6s can also not believe in anything. Opposites.
    By your argument every spiritual person in the world is a type 6, which is obviously not true. Spiritualism can be very 7ish, bored of the "real", physical world. Looking for more fun elsewhere.
    ...being afraid of the dark does not make you a type 6. That's ridiculous.

    Tom Cruise: probably 3 from intuitive impressions.
    Type 6 is sort on-off when it comes to believing in something. A Type 6 is either eternally doubtful, or entirely supports or rejects a belief system.

    Most parts of the world are religious, because most people have a 6 fix.

    Most spiritual people in the world are 6, 9, and yes, often 7 (SX).

    Being afraid of the dark, is not necessarily 6, but being afraid of it at her age, in addition to having all kinds of phobias like that one fear of dry paper, is rather Type 6-like.
    In other words, fear plays quite a role in her personal life, which is also rather 6. Describing oneself as neurotic, is another pointer towards a 6 fix, 6 core in particular.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra View Post
    Type 6 is sort on-off when it comes to believing in something. A Type 6 is either eternally doubtful, or entirely supports or rejects a belief system.

    Most parts of the world are religious, because most people have a 6 fix.

    Most spiritual people in the world are 6, 9, and yes, often 7.

    Being afraid of the dark, not necessarily, but being afraid of it at her age, in addition to having all kinds of phobias like that one fear of dry paper, is rather Type 6-like.
    And where have you seen Megan Fox being on-off about her spirituality?

    How is phobia of dry paper 6?

    That's a very peculiar thing and is not related to any of the types, lol. Probably something happened when she grew up, cut herself on a piece of paper, or something.

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    So obviously I hadn't read it all through... but boy, there's a lot of social stuff going on here. A whole social sphere forming around the idea of the "social blind spots."
    As always I'm not going to post social, aka "popular," "mainstream" music since if you really know the idea, you don't need to search for the one thing in the same place. It seems that people here just can't shrug off their current time and cultural frame, which is also part of the "So."
    Which is analogous to not being able to paraphrase the theory to use very banal examples to explain those abstract patterns. Words have never meant anything, other than just tools. Only the ones who believe in (intellectual-) authorities and (pop-cultural-) icons will fail to understand this. Trump is only important because people want him to be. If not the people than the unconscious of the people. The sleep of the nation creates monsters.


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    https://youtu.be/VKkmEHeTVGI?t=391
    https://youtu.be/53N99Nim6WE?t=630 https://youtu.be/53N99Nim6WE?t=908 https://youtu.be/53N99Nim6WE?t=1071
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    And here's some random "Sx/Sp music video" done now for real. Yeah. Urgh. Feel the So blind spot irony there...

    https://youtu.be/fM05BGO_nGY?t=23
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    Okay, now for real real. Sx/Sp sugar candy real. Self-imitation and stuff. Power-puff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyOne View Post
    Can't say that I agree, I'm So/Sp on this.
    The author didn't take into account that this I can have everyone or I can have no one is literally SX all or nothing mentality

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    The author didn't take into account that this I can have everyone or I can have no one is literally SX all or nothing mentality
    The post it's all over the place

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    The author didn't take into account that this I can have everyone or I can have no one is literally SX all or nothing mentality
    Yeah, and conversely the "it'd be fine to..."/"it'd be nice to..." sentiments seem more like Sx-last lack of willingness to commit to a feeling than a Sx-dom statement. Sp/So and So/Sp mostly exist in the middle ground, it's not all or nothing for them.

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    I mostly just lurk on this one since I'd infect it with all my So-dom crap, but this thread has felt inoffensive to me as of late. Come on people, think; what would make a So/Sp feel vaguely claustrophobic and unwelcome? Post that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyOne View Post
    The post it's all over the place
    Yep, partly. What I also critique is that SP is portrayed as so exclusive here, "the one" can be part of self-preservation as well since it provides security and offspring. SP was the first instinct manifested in humans - raw survival: which contains mating. SX is more of the anticipation of spark in the relationship and not "the one" per se.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    Yep, partly. What I also critique is that SP is portrayed as so exclusive here, "the one" can be part of self-preservation as well since it provides security and offspring. SP was the first instinct manifested in humans - raw survival: which contains mating. SX is more of the anticipation of spark in the relationship and not "the one" per se.
    What I find disturbing and off is the obsession with "the one" in the first place. The whole idea that a person's life and desires center around sex and romantic love, I know mine don't. Also, I'm not looking for "the one" at all, why limit myself? More like "the ones".

    Like there's so much instinctual variants cover and explain, why is sexuality the only topic brought up over and over? I don't get it. It's like they're stuck on puberty or something. SX=SEX

    This mating thing has to go, I'm not a cavewoman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyOne View Post
    What I find disturbing and off is the obsession with "the one" in the first place. The whole idea that a person's life and desires center around sex and romantic love, I know mine don't. Also, I'm not looking for "the one" at all, why limit myself? More like "the ones".

    Like there's so much instinctual variants cover and explain, why is sexuality the only topic brought up over and over? I don't get it. It's like they're stuck on puberty or something. SX=SEX
    "The one" is a heteronormative monogamous trap and far from reality.

    Not the problem of instincts, but culture. Did you read my blog post on SX with the Rihanna gif on top? I talked a lot about this in there. Especially concerning the misconception.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyOne View Post
    This isn't SX/SP.
    natalie imbruglia is sx/sp e9, though ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lynn View Post
    natalie imbruglia is sx/sp e9, though ...
    So show your case for her being one. Bring on the evidence

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyOne View Post
    What I find disturbing and off is the obsession with "the one" in the first place. The whole idea that a person's life and desires center around sex and romantic love, I know mine don't. Also, I'm not looking for "the one" at all, why limit myself? More like "the ones".

    Like there's so much instinctual variants cover and explain, why is sexuality the only topic brought up over and over? I don't get it. It's like they're stuck on puberty or something. SX=SEX

    This mating thing has to go, I'm not a cavewoman.
    Mating=sx

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    It is called the "sexual" instinct for a reason...

    Sure, SX first people don't only think about "mating" or sex, but come on...

    If you cannot relate to the strong bonding aka "merging", intensity, and so forth of sexuality, you might very well be Sp/Sx (or something else) instead.
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    @LuckyOne
    It all goes back to basics we need/have needed to survive as a species
    sx=mating
    so=be one with the herd
    sp=food/shelter

    Sx is about merging because it is merging with another person.
    There is a difference between intercourse and sex. Sex is juice, sex is attraction and repulsion. If sx wasn't sexual, why is it named SEXUAL?

    (SX): Besides the hunger for sex itself, this is the ‘need for heat’, the hunt for ‘electrical juice’, risky excitement and fevered decadence as a narcotic, pushing the envelope, the edge, seeking that peak something, simultaneously exposing oneself to total self-destruction. Also, ‘the World as a mating dance’, the compulsion to broadcast beautiful attractive ‘colors’, casting a net (or a pheromone) out for that special someone to complete an electrical circuit, a nose for the individualized scent of the soul we long to burn our imprint into, and they into ours. Chemistry, not intimacy. Involuntary attraction and repulsion. Archetypally, this Instinct rules the alchemical processes, transformation/transmogrification, base metals into gold, phoenix rising from the ashes, the wild-eyed shaman whirling in fire and blood and radical rebirth. Some authors have sought to tame this Instinct with new names, such as Intimate or one-to-one, but any attempt at reworking the Instinct into something wholesome/spiritual/romantic misses the mark: the Sexual Instinct is raw unbridled wanting, untethered by ethics/morality. Recklessness. A live wire longing to burn…and be burned to death. The classical image of Eros’s arrow (erotic attraction) shot through the heart accurately alludes to the danger here: potential ruin and destruction under the guise of Love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyOne View Post
    To be honest I'm putting a certain poster here on ignore, because I can't deal with the old fashioned fantasy world things I see in every single fucking thread I go no matter the subject, always about duals, which to this person obviously can only mean romantic mates, it's like Socionics is a Sabrina romance or something Not to mention the gross misconceptions and overgeneralizations in Enneagram. Really, some people don't live in the real word.


    I did, it really drove it home to me.
    Humans naturally gravitate towards ancient beliefs for guidance since they're insecure. "Romance" (=bs) is the glue that holds a mirage together so it's no surprise

    Ah I see you quoted it, that's exactly the paragraphs I referred to

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyOne View Post
    I do not subscribe to these evolutionists views on personality theories. So I have nothing left to say to you or anyone who believes we are still stuck in the cavemen/woman mentality. We'll never see eye to eye.

    Also, I've never said it had nothing to do with sex, I said it wasn't limited to it or even mandatorily implied it at all times.

    And lastly, SEX=/= mating. Mating in the sense you people mean is about, like @Chae said so eloquently put it, about monogamy. Which not every one, including me, practices.



    See above. Also you're the last person who can talk about the bolded.
    Noo sx is not monogamy, monogamy is a type of relationship, and sx is not relationships. I have not known any sx firsts that can handle an open/polygamous relationship though, meaning their partner is with other people. We are way too jealous and obsessed for that.. It's more common with sx 2nds ime.

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    @LuckyOne What exactly do you think sx is if it's core isn't sexual?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyOne View Post
    Yes, but that's precisely what the whole "The One" idea entails: the perfect mate, in singular. And again, you're back at discussing the sexual attraction to people as if that's the point, when it isn't.
    Then tell me what is the point you're trying to make?
    Attraction/repulsion is a central part of sx.

    There are several types of polyamorous (not polygamous) relationships, clearly you are not versed into them.
    Is this an ad hominem? =D I have never been interested in polyamorous relationships, I am too jealous and possesive. I don't share.

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    SX is only the hormone rush. The sexual element is the self-pres body, pressured through the social instinct which has the premise of human "cohesion".

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