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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    Conventional marriage is not Sx/Sp-friendly:

    "Due to jobs, kids, TV, the Internet, hobbies, and home and family responsibilities, the average married couple spends just four minutes a day alone together." x

    4 MINUTES! That's maybe uh, a kiss. My love language is not quality time but... I would slowly die inside
    Current society sucks.
    It is actually getting worse, I wouldn't be surprised if the number goes from 4 minutes to 1 minute, to 1 second, to no contact, everybody has 3dglasses and talks by Facebook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    Current society sucks.
    It is actually getting worse, I wouldn't be surprised if the number goes from 4 minutes to 1 minute, to 1 second, to no contact, everybody has 3dglasses and talks by Facebook.
    Society doesn't suck, customs do. Marriage is outdated and a model that only fits certain people. It promotes compulsive heterosexuality as well. It stifles all opportunities.

    People already talk via social media while sitting next to each other, I wouldn't predict anything like that, it's already happening. The solution to this problem: being a gay technophobe in a state where homosexual marriage is illegal, without money or desire to adopt a kid

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    Ti sx/sp porn?

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    Ok, I'll leave now

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    Okay, it's time for something really Sx/Sp (or Sp/Sx), unlike all these trashy videos that align themselves too much with the social standards of today.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktJEHIkkqHc

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C-j8UguKjk

    https://youtu.be/_4LdvMVD4Sk?t=3m26s

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbufWuDx_Ok

    <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-xTJ5hUJ44" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQqWno3dd1A

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jrkputOKAo

    and one to piss you off:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-ITv4OBV9c
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    I was wrong, I will cry
    I will love you till the day I die
    You were all, you alone and no one else
    You were meant for me

    When morning comes again
    I have the loneliness you left me
    Each day drags by
    Until finally my time descends on me

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    ... oh I didn't mean any offense, though, they all look nice and dandy, the girls or men who sing or perform or walk in front of the camera. Just makes me wonder how many friends they have on Facebook.

    Hey, BTW, how many friends do the sx/sp or sp/sx users here have on Facebook? Or followers on other social media?

    Here're some more vague songs...

    1st one's easy... <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTOwu3aMa0M" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">

    2nd one's more popular, as Pink Floyd's popularity enjoyed a resurgence these years but I'll only point out the interesting bit... https://youtu.be/53N99Nim6WE?t=18m22s

    Oh right, an feel the groove of this... not as much those brighter melodies, it just somehow flows in eternal suspension.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOPNa753e1E

    Save you the trouble from this one as well... overdone song. https://youtu.be/5xFrAtOwsY8?t=7m34s
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    Freddy was clearly something of an so/sx, I guess, dunno who made this video, it rather seems to have an Sx/So bent. But the melody mostly doesn't sound like it was if intended for parties.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJFYtyEIJ60
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    Sx/Sp or Sp/Sx can change the emotional qualities of a person. Like loneliness, feelings of being outcast, left to ones own devices, socially misunderstood, marooned, rebelling against the majority etc. grants different visual or acoustic chromatics if represented through various media. Colors become washed out, suddenly there is beauty in decay and disillusionment/distrust for the artifice of perfect beauty (rust, decay, abandonment in the foreground; the natural quality of things is not "sanitized" "unblemished" "pure"). Solitary towers may parallel the intimate focus of one individual's inner life as symbols from romanticist, Gothic obsession with the individual, Byronic hero. Melodies turn more sinister in tone, more flat/sharp notes, minors utilized (Enharmonic modulation?) compositions may evoke feelings of strange, cold, alien, "paranormal," oneiric, trippy (dirty) ascendence, etc. Emphasis is not on conveying a narrative through musical composition, a "story," instead capturing an ambience of feelings, a comforting solitude of texture of notes that wrap around the 'soul' of the listener, conserving, shielding away from the cacophony of the world.

    None of this, however ties to any genre in general. On one of my course we learned that film noir was never listed as a filmic genre. Still, after its hayday, "noir" continued to pop up in various types of films, detuning their style by adding more grittiness, edge, social criticism, colder/darker tone, an eerie psychological depth, mystery, a blurring of the good / bad, thus steering away from straight happy ends toward more complexity, seriousness.

    And even if these are true, it doesn't change the very fact, that all can be imitated, coppycatted, captured and re-represented (by so/sxs, so/sp, sx/sos) under the (sun)light of the public eye. The way Batman or a subversive idea can contained and become public property (counterculture becomes culture). So the most important factor that one has to discern to be able to differentiate (needs careful dissection) is the following: "raw communication" 1-on-1 without masspersonal intent. Or in other words: no games, no bluffing, no sarcasm, duplicity but direct intimacy. It strips naked to talk to you. Would you bare your soul for him/her?

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    I associate SX/SP with a swordsman or -woman, I explain why (the instinctual processes) underneath the quotes.



    SX --> the "unstoppable" energy
    SP --> channeling through physical resources
    SO --> neglect of the overall battle dynamics




    SX --> confrontation
    SP --> mobilization through the fighting body
    SO --> "most people", consensus that can be an illusion/false/denied





    SX --> belligerent energy
    SP --> manifested in the body
    SO --> everything outside the body

    (can also be interpreted as SP/SX)



    SX --> the sacrifice of self
    SP --> and therefore the body
    SO --> irrelevance of bonds, the enemies etc



    SX --> being the storm
    SP --> withstanding



    SX --> strong spirit
    SP --> trumps the expensive sword
    SO --> subordination to others

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    Addendum: the behavioral and mental patterns associated to this Enneagram "type" not only can be, but also, inexorably will be copied. This is a historical tendency, it goes on under various other names, I believe if one takes a look into Joseph Campbell's Hero's Journey will be able to find the "wolfman's" "Enkidu's," "Mowgli's" "feral children's" story throughout all kinds of myths from all over the world. And society cutifying them to tame their subversive edge (having the potential to inquire into society's unquestioned/naturalized habits/values/world perceptions while being unbiased). I think the term 'postmodern' that talks about the loss of the original within the overabundance of copies has something to do with it. Hell, I even read a Žižek intro saying:

    The ideological attitude opened up by this split, of course, is that of cynism, of cynical distance which pertains to the very notion of Enlightenment and which today seems to have reached its apogee: although officially undermined, devalorized, authority returns through the sidedoor - "we know there is no truth in authority, yet we continue to play its game and to obey it in order not to disturb the usual run of things..." Truth is suspended in the name of efficiency (...) "In theory deconstruct as much as you will, but in your everyday life, play the predominant social game!" The present book was written with a view to bringing to public notice the nullity of cynical distance.
    So in other words: re-represent it as much as you want, overpost the forum with loaned pictures, music videos, overdone attempts to prove your revolutionary spark through striking, loud colors, but at the end of the day, all it will boil down to (that cynical distance splitting up theory/words/images from) is:

    Actions speak louder than words.

    Ref. list:
    Žižek, S. (1992). Introduction. In Enjoy your symptom!: Jacques Lacan in Hollywood and out (pp. x-xi). New York: Routledge.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    I associate SX/SP with a swordsman or -woman, I explain why (the instinctual processes) underneath the quotes.



    SX --> the "unstoppable" energy
    SP --> channeling through physical resources
    SO --> neglect of the overall battle dynamics




    SX --> confrontation
    SP --> mobilization through the fighting body
    SO --> "most people", consensus that can be an illusion/false/denied





    SX --> belligerent energy
    SP --> manifested in the body
    SO --> everything outside the body

    (can also be interpreted as SP/SX)



    SX --> the sacrifice of self
    SP --> and therefore the body
    SO --> irrelevance of bonds, the enemies etc



    SX --> being the storm
    SP --> withstanding



    SX --> strong spirit
    SP --> trumps the expensive sword
    SO --> subordination to others
    Most "warriors" seem to be Counterphobic 6.
    So yes, they can be Sx/Sp.
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    “My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.”​ —C.G. Jung
     
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    Spam of some miscellaneous pictures and quotes from my Pinterest.
















    Translation: The beauty of things lives in the soul of the observer.














































































































    Tagging @LuckyOne who enjoys SX/SP things ~<33

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post



    While sx/sp be like "You've gotten into my soul!!"

    "you've gotten into my bloodstream" feels too much sp-related .... sensuality and romantic physical mergers are generally SP-first domain

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    Quote Originally Posted by silke View Post
    While sx/sp be like "You've gotten into my soul!!"

    "you've gotten into my bloodstream" feels too much sp-related .... sensuality and romantic physical mergers are generally SP-first domain
    I think the show is pretty sx/sp actually. Vampire Diaries in case you don't know it but I was taking it metaphorically/spiritually not literal. Sx firsts do kiss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    I think the show is pretty sx/sp actually. Vampire Diaries in case you don't know it but I was taking it metaphorically/spiritually not literal. Sx firsts do kiss.
    It's mixed type afaik as are the actors. I was talking about the gifs you posted and not the whole show.

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    A The artidote post on FB, that coupled this quote with this painting.

    "Please, I want so badly for the good things to happen." -Sylvia Plath

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    Painting by Chin H Shin

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    sx/sp - Other Lives 'For 12' (Jesse Tabish - ESI 1w9 sx/sp)
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    Quote Originally Posted by mclane View Post
    what was your idea with this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    what was your idea with this?
    A "wanderer" (strong sp sx/sp). http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...tual-Stackings

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    a little synflow rant
    After spending a long time with a group, especially when i have no one that i have good chemistry with that i can lean on, i feel so useless and down. My energy for soc goes away so quickly and after that i become even more quiet and isolate myself from the group. I feel so useless+inappropriate being with a bunch of social people who know their way around social and bonding and being a part of the group when i dont. I know developing my soc is key to my health but it feels like its near to impossible

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    a little synflow rant
    After spending a long time with a group, especially when i have no one that i have good chemistry with that i can lean on, i feel so useless and down. My energy for soc goes away so quickly and after that i become even more quiet and isolate myself from the group. I feel so useless+inappropriate being with a bunch of social people who know their way around social and bonding and being a part of the group when i dont. I know developing my soc is key to my health but it feels like its near to impossible
    Wow. Same in that I get very drained in such settings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myst View Post
    Wow. Same in that I get very drained in such settings.
    soc lasts struggle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    soc lasts struggle
    Yeah.

    My soc energy lasts for a couple minutes just like you describe. Then if there is no one interesting to me, I can stay only if I have some other goal with the situation. Or for good food, sometimes.

    I however feel no need to "fix" myself about this. I know now how I work and I can seek out socialization based on that and not force things on myself beyond that that do not work for me.

    Understanding myself better helped a lot there. Before that I used to think I had to "fix" this.

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    Hold my hand and lead me there
    To this place I'm unaware
    Endless days have left me drifting
    I have lost my thoughts
    I follow you in it's warm and cold
    I've never been I'd die to know
    Will I be left vacant

    Slipping in this empty space it's difficult believing
    Sweet allure beauty face when I'm left with no more feeling
    I've got it sweet I've got it grim
    Never imagined this space I'm in

    Four endless days I am no wiser than I was before
    You'll never know what's inside of me
    Neither will I if I try to be
    Don't want to be left vacant

    Slipping in this empty space it's difficult believing
    Sweet allure beauty face when I'm left with no more feeling
    Falling down this empty space I've left my heart behind me
    Sweet allure beauty face when I'm left with no more feeling



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    @Myst and @Ghost , thank you for your insights; I feel the same. Chemistry is organic, tbh, and while it's great to aspire to better the blind spot, it's still important to listen to your primary instinct and worth with your limitations; I, like Myst, have felt that there was something wrong with me and I do have so flaws, I have found not to force myself to do things with a crowd in which I'm not really into anyone. I have found that it might take time to find that but it's worth it. And we can all try to improve, meanwhile *rambles*.

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    Shire, herself, may be 4 sp/sx though.

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    I noticed the other day that my sp/sx 794 friend has very similar facial features as Stevie Nicks whose the same tritype and stacking. So I was like huh. Then I remembered someone told me once I looked like Joan Jett, and we do have similar facial features, shes 864 sx/sp and I'm sx/sp 468. Interesting stuff
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