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    Sx/Sp or Sp/Sx can change the emotional qualities of a person. Like loneliness, feelings of being outcast, left to ones own devices, socially misunderstood, marooned, rebelling against the majority etc. grants different visual or acoustic chromatics if represented through various media. Colors become washed out, suddenly there is beauty in decay and disillusionment/distrust for the artifice of perfect beauty (rust, decay, abandonment in the foreground; the natural quality of things is not "sanitized" "unblemished" "pure"). Solitary towers may parallel the intimate focus of one individual's inner life as symbols from romanticist, Gothic obsession with the individual, Byronic hero. Melodies turn more sinister in tone, more flat/sharp notes, minors utilized (Enharmonic modulation?) compositions may evoke feelings of strange, cold, alien, "paranormal," oneiric, trippy (dirty) ascendence, etc. Emphasis is not on conveying a narrative through musical composition, a "story," instead capturing an ambience of feelings, a comforting solitude of texture of notes that wrap around the 'soul' of the listener, conserving, shielding away from the cacophony of the world.

    None of this, however ties to any genre in general. On one of my course we learned that film noir was never listed as a filmic genre. Still, after its hayday, "noir" continued to pop up in various types of films, detuning their style by adding more grittiness, edge, social criticism, colder/darker tone, an eerie psychological depth, mystery, a blurring of the good / bad, thus steering away from straight happy ends toward more complexity, seriousness.

    And even if these are true, it doesn't change the very fact, that all can be imitated, coppycatted, captured and re-represented (by so/sxs, so/sp, sx/sos) under the (sun)light of the public eye. The way Batman or a subversive idea can contained and become public property (counterculture becomes culture). So the most important factor that one has to discern to be able to differentiate (needs careful dissection) is the following: "raw communication" 1-on-1 without masspersonal intent. Or in other words: no games, no bluffing, no sarcasm, duplicity but direct intimacy. It strips naked to talk to you. Would you bare your soul for him/her?

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    Freddy was clearly something of an so/sx, I guess, dunno who made this video, it rather seems to have an Sx/So bent. But the melody mostly doesn't sound like it was if intended for parties.

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    I associate SX/SP with a swordsman or -woman, I explain why (the instinctual processes) underneath the quotes.



    SX --> the "unstoppable" energy
    SP --> channeling through physical resources
    SO --> neglect of the overall battle dynamics




    SX --> confrontation
    SP --> mobilization through the fighting body
    SO --> "most people", consensus that can be an illusion/false/denied





    SX --> belligerent energy
    SP --> manifested in the body
    SO --> everything outside the body

    (can also be interpreted as SP/SX)



    SX --> the sacrifice of self
    SP --> and therefore the body
    SO --> irrelevance of bonds, the enemies etc



    SX --> being the storm
    SP --> withstanding



    SX --> strong spirit
    SP --> trumps the expensive sword
    SO --> subordination to others

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    I associate SX/SP with a swordsman or -woman, I explain why (the instinctual processes) underneath the quotes.



    SX --> the "unstoppable" energy
    SP --> channeling through physical resources
    SO --> neglect of the overall battle dynamics




    SX --> confrontation
    SP --> mobilization through the fighting body
    SO --> "most people", consensus that can be an illusion/false/denied





    SX --> belligerent energy
    SP --> manifested in the body
    SO --> everything outside the body

    (can also be interpreted as SP/SX)



    SX --> the sacrifice of self
    SP --> and therefore the body
    SO --> irrelevance of bonds, the enemies etc



    SX --> being the storm
    SP --> withstanding



    SX --> strong spirit
    SP --> trumps the expensive sword
    SO --> subordination to others
    Most "warriors" seem to be Counterphobic 6.
    So yes, they can be Sx/Sp.
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    Addendum: the behavioral and mental patterns associated to this Enneagram "type" not only can be, but also, inexorably will be copied. This is a historical tendency, it goes on under various other names, I believe if one takes a look into Joseph Campbell's Hero's Journey will be able to find the "wolfman's" "Enkidu's," "Mowgli's" "feral children's" story throughout all kinds of myths from all over the world. And society cutifying them to tame their subversive edge (having the potential to inquire into society's unquestioned/naturalized habits/values/world perceptions while being unbiased). I think the term 'postmodern' that talks about the loss of the original within the overabundance of copies has something to do with it. Hell, I even read a Žižek intro saying:

    The ideological attitude opened up by this split, of course, is that of cynism, of cynical distance which pertains to the very notion of Enlightenment and which today seems to have reached its apogee: although officially undermined, devalorized, authority returns through the sidedoor - "we know there is no truth in authority, yet we continue to play its game and to obey it in order not to disturb the usual run of things..." Truth is suspended in the name of efficiency (...) "In theory deconstruct as much as you will, but in your everyday life, play the predominant social game!" The present book was written with a view to bringing to public notice the nullity of cynical distance.
    So in other words: re-represent it as much as you want, overpost the forum with loaned pictures, music videos, overdone attempts to prove your revolutionary spark through striking, loud colors, but at the end of the day, all it will boil down to (that cynical distance splitting up theory/words/images from) is:

    Actions speak louder than words.

    Ref. list:
    Žižek, S. (1992). Introduction. In Enjoy your symptom!: Jacques Lacan in Hollywood and out (pp. x-xi). New York: Routledge.


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    *********** 21-04-19:
    "Looks like a mystic that just arrived to battle and staring out at the battle, ready to unleash"



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    New Youtube [x] Get Typed! [x]
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    *********** 21-04-19:
    "Looks like a mystic that just arrived to battle and staring out at the battle, ready to unleash"



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    Spam of some miscellaneous pictures and quotes from my Pinterest.
















    Translation: The beauty of things lives in the soul of the observer.














































































































    Tagging @LuckyOne who enjoys SX/SP things ~<33

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    "Looks like a mystic that just arrived to battle and staring out at the battle, ready to unleash"



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    A The artidote post on FB, that coupled this quote with this painting.

    "Please, I want so badly for the good things to happen." -Sylvia Plath

    chin.jpg

    Painting by Chin H Shin

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    sx/sp - Other Lives 'For 12' (Jesse Tabish - ESI 1w9 sx/sp)
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    Quote Originally Posted by mclane View Post
    what was your idea with this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    what was your idea with this?
    A "wanderer" (strong sp sx/sp). http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...tual-Stackings

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    a little synflow rant
    After spending a long time with a group, especially when i have no one that i have good chemistry with that i can lean on, i feel so useless and down. My energy for soc goes away so quickly and after that i become even more quiet and isolate myself from the group. I feel so useless+inappropriate being with a bunch of social people who know their way around social and bonding and being a part of the group when i dont. I know developing my soc is key to my health but it feels like its near to impossible

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    a little synflow rant
    After spending a long time with a group, especially when i have no one that i have good chemistry with that i can lean on, i feel so useless and down. My energy for soc goes away so quickly and after that i become even more quiet and isolate myself from the group. I feel so useless+inappropriate being with a bunch of social people who know their way around social and bonding and being a part of the group when i dont. I know developing my soc is key to my health but it feels like its near to impossible
    Wow. Same in that I get very drained in such settings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myst View Post
    Wow. Same in that I get very drained in such settings.
    soc lasts struggle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    soc lasts struggle
    Yeah.

    My soc energy lasts for a couple minutes just like you describe. Then if there is no one interesting to me, I can stay only if I have some other goal with the situation. Or for good food, sometimes.

    I however feel no need to "fix" myself about this. I know now how I work and I can seek out socialization based on that and not force things on myself beyond that that do not work for me.

    Understanding myself better helped a lot there. Before that I used to think I had to "fix" this.

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    @Myst and @Ghost , thank you for your insights; I feel the same. Chemistry is organic, tbh, and while it's great to aspire to better the blind spot, it's still important to listen to your primary instinct and worth with your limitations; I, like Myst, have felt that there was something wrong with me and I do have so flaws, I have found not to force myself to do things with a crowd in which I'm not really into anyone. I have found that it might take time to find that but it's worth it. And we can all try to improve, meanwhile *rambles*.

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    shire.jpg

    Shire, herself, may be 4 sp/sx though.

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    I noticed the other day that my sp/sx 794 friend has very similar facial features as Stevie Nicks whose the same tritype and stacking. So I was like huh. Then I remembered someone told me once I looked like Joan Jett, and we do have similar facial features, shes 864 sx/sp and I'm sx/sp 468. Interesting stuff
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
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    I noticed the other day that my sp/sx 794 friend has very similar facial features as Stevie Nicks whose the same tritype and stacking. So I was like huh. Then I remembered someone told me once I looked like Joan Jett, and we do have similar facial features, shes 864 sx/sp and I'm sx/sp 468. Interesting stuff
    She is awesome. I posted some stuff about her in the beta thread but she also reminds me a bit of @Spider


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    sx/sp: Upward death. The wet fire.

    sp secondary: overcoming obstacles: dying and being reborn.

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    Typical SX/SP climactic slow burn in three steps, testing - escalation - reenergizing:


    1. starts out strong but still subdued
    gets more intense, "testing" - 0:33
    recedes but you know that the track is about to come for your neck - 0:48

    2. then quickly escalates completely like !!!!! - 2:12 hnngh oh YES that breakdown is like a shot of adrenaline
    goes back to more restricted but intense state - 3:15

    3. last "testing" to pacify: 3:30
    releases the remaining tension and reenergizes 3:39


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    sort of like this image for the "wanderer" Sx/Sp


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    Let me be the one who calls you baby all the time
    Surely you can take some comfort knowing that you're mine
    Just hold me tight, lay by my side
    And let me be the one who calls you baby all the time
    I found my place in the world
    Could stare at your face for the rest of my days
    Now I can breathe, turn my insides out and smother me
    Warm and alive I'm all over you
    Would you smother me?
    Let me be the one who never leaves you all alone
    I hold my breath and lose the feeling that I'm on my own
    Hold me too tight, stay by my side
    And let me be the one who calls you baby all the time
    I found my place in the world
    Could stare at your face for the rest of my days
    Now I can breathe, turn my insides out
    And smother me
    Warm and alive I'm all over you
    Would you smother me? Smother me, smother me
    When I'm alone time goes so slow I need you here with me
    And how my mistakes have made your heart break
    Still I need you here with me
    So baby I'm, baby I'm here
    Now I can breathe, turn my insides out
    And smother me
    Warm and alive I'm all over you
    Would you smother me?
    Now I can breathe, turn my insides out
    And smother me
    Warm and alive I'm all over you
    Would you smother me? Smother me, smother me
    Let me be the one who calls you baby all the time
    Let me be the one who calls you baby all the time
    Let me be the one who calls you baby, the one who calls you baby

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    Gamma Quadra; synflow <3 <3 <3

    Also, the lyrics:

    Cruising through the city after hours
    With me fusing all our powers
    Here's to all our
    Take me one more time
    Take me one more wave
    Take me for one last ride
    I'm out of my head
    Tonight

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    Gamma Quadra; synflow with sp creative <3 <3 <3

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    Shouldn't have taken my eyes of you
    I shouldn't have straddled the lines crossed too
    And now I've been searching but can't find you
    Hence me being lost since you're the one I'm entwined to
    So, is love the picture that we've tainted now?
    No, am I still with you when I ain't around?
    Am I the subject you tip-toe or walk around?
    And if this love is on the ledge I'm trying to talk it down

    (Bring me your love)
    We were deap sea divers
    (Bring me your love)
    On another mans' planet
    (I need your love)
    And I fell for you hard babe
    (Bring me your love)
    But I never quite landed
    (Bring me your love)
    Now I can't be with you
    (Bring me your love)
    And I can't be with you
    (I need your love)
    And I scream for your name and I call for you babe but I can't be with you
    (Bring me your love)
    And I can't be with you
    (Bring me your love)
    Still can't forget you
    (I need your love)
    And I scream for your name and I call for you babe but I can't be with you
    (Bring me your love)
    And I can't be with you
    (I need your love)
    And I can't be with you

    So, instead of sailing I live like a human parachute
    The more I'm falling the further I am compared to you
    It's like I'm stuck in the air, while you're pale and blue
    Chasing clouds and hoping they lead a trail to you
    See, we were deep sea divers
    And I was focused on survival
    And death does you part when you're focused on its rival
    Defibrillator love, I'm just focused on revival

    You could, you could put your hands in mine
    And we'll walk through the sands in the sand of time
    Until we paint the end of this love scene
    Until I'm laid to rest in your blood stream

    Until I hear the strings of your heart playing
    Until I hear the things you are not saying
    Until I find out what it really means
    And hopefully it's everything it really seems

    Breaking me open again
    Oh darling, chasing what's gone with the wind
    Oh no, I can't be with you
    Oh no no, I can't be with you
    I can't be with you
    Oh no no, I can't be with you

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    “My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.”​ —C.G. Jung
     
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    Se-Ni 8 sx/sp can look contraflow despite being synflow ^_^ .

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    4-7-8 sx/sp with sp creative in the house, bitches. S'all about overcoming the elements, babeh <3 .

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    “My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.”​ —C.G. Jung
     
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    sx/sp breakups :'(


    Separate or combined
    I ask you one last time
    Did I hold you too tight?
    Did I not let enough light in?
    If a feeling appears
    If your mind should sway
    It's not a secret you should keep
    I won't let you slip away
    we used to be closer than this
    we used to get closer than this
    is it something you miss?

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    synflow sx-firsts be like <3 ...

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