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Last edited by Ron Mexican; 09-02-2014 at 11:49 PM. Reason: P.S.
ttl respect for your self-typing (and agreement) tho i'd add i see fi+se (strong focus) thing happening too, now that could be just demostrative fi/ creative fe hard to spot dcnh type tho just cuz short viddy :/
Has clear viewpoints Fi-Se flavour.
Aw good answer to my question. And all the other questions too. You have a calming aura to me yet there's this practicality/level-headedness to you as well.
@Elina shit sorry i warned it on accident when i tried to like it
you seem really calm and relatable. my impression is fi-eii but i dont know you well enough to be really confident about that.
edit: i scrolled up and saw fi-esi suggestions. that doesn't seem totally impossible but i definitely agree with 9 for you.
IEI with chance of SEI. Definitely not ESI as MBD and IJim have suggested. I don't see any Se from you.
Your descriptions of yourself especially about the 6th minute of the video are very incisive in a way that makes me think Ni:
"I think I'm pretty open, but um, I think that, what's it called, what's it called, I'm withdrawn. Like I'm not reserved. But I'm withdrawn. Sometimes. Like I'm not the most outgoing person in new situations at least. But um, I'm open as in like, I don't hide things, or I can, I can be self-revealing, if I, if I get there, in a relationship in a friendship or whatever kind of relationship. So I'm not reserved 'cause reserved to me means, you know, somebody that's really hard to get to know."
It seems you're able to describe different shades of yourself very easily. The "self-revealing", "sometimes", the back-and-forth sides of just "reserved" versus "withdrawn".
Personally, I wouldn't waste 50 seconds describing the difference between just those 2 words, which essentially both mean 'shy' to me, but the subtle context seems important to you. Your personality type reminds me of Fe-creatives who are always drawn to Ti-creatives who can create exact definitions of what you're trying to describe.
I'd lean towards IEI for you, but perhaps a 2nd type for consideration may be SEI. I've posted pictures of VI here a few years ago of a couple friends of mine whose personality seems similar to yours, and people typed them as either SEI and even possibly EII. I would consider EII more of a stretch for you though.
So IEI is my vote. You're very pleasant and likeable (I can't say you're my favorite conflictor though, people like truck would get mad at me). Looking forward to more videos and questions answered.
How can anyone agree to IEI when this is definitively not an IP vibe, and no Fe in any position of model A at all? There is a lot of extroversion here, and as others already concluded, Fi and Se. although not necessarily both in the Ego block. I think I said LIE>LSE before, but I'm now going with IEE>LIE. SEE being a third, distant possibility.
“I have never tried that before, so I think I should definitely be able to do that.” --- Pippi Longstocking
Or maybe I've been changing my TIM for fun, as I've previously stated multiple times I find it funny how people like you will make wild assumptions about simply changing 3 letters.
And maybe someone's just salty now that their argument and consideration of LIE & LSE for Elina got a emoticon.
For reciprocating's sake - if you'd like to intelligently defend your argument, that you still consider LIE a real alternative possibility for Elina - where in the video do you see Te from her?
My impression is some kind of fi ego, have to think about it more .
I like how convenient it is to say things are poop when people don't share the same opinion.
Where is my super cheerleader smiley?
Here it is:
Other then that you seem super duper sweet @Elina.
I also see rather EP than IP, I am sorry.
I had a really hard time deciding to respond to this thread. One reason being is that you have been very kind, supportive and helpful to me and I was afraid to ruin the good vibes between us but that is my issue not yours. The other is that I don't like it when people try to retype me when I am positive of my own type. I see no reason to challenge someone's self type if they haven't asked for it. Having said that I realize if you were positive you wouldn't have put the effort into making a video and putting it out for all to see, so I know you really want to know. Your hair looks great, btw.
When you first joined I felt IEE for you and had somehow come to the idea that SLI would be your socionics dual but then as we talked I really wanted you to be IEI or beta at the very least, probably for selfish reasons, like, we will have better communication between us. After talking to you it didn't really matter what your type was because you were fun to chat with and you loved music as much as me and the only thing that I ever felt even a bit at odds with you on was when you kind of dismissed my astrology beliefs, because you feel they have been empirically disproved, but that is ok. hahah I kind of held back my feelings on that issue at the time but we can't agree on everything. I know any type can be into astrology so that wasn't a deciding factor but maybe your reasons for dismissing it might have seemed, um, Te-like to me and it hit my polr kind of hard at the time. I think I already told you that though. We have similar tastes in other things which are probably not type related but anyway...
I just watched the video again and I feel/sense so much Ne and Fi from you but not Fi in a demonstrative sense, I usually pick up on it's demonstrative use easily. I have also noticed over time the way you describe things, like, the present and future seems different from most IEI I know irl life and online. You also seem to have a more personal style of caring too. I have two immediate family members who are IEI so I do have a frame of reference. Sooo, I wasn't going to respond but if Darya and Perse can do it then I need to stop being a wimp and do it too. Even if only just to clear any energy that may betray my feelings in interactions with you. I don't want to hide anything from you but I didn't want to hurt you too so I was torn. I can be over-sensitive to how people I like react to me and indifferent to people who's opinions don't matter to me. I feel you are IEE. Now I want to say sorry as well. If you want me to explain any of this we can do it on skype since I don't want to go into it here. I know my perception may change again through us having deeper or just different interactions so I will keep it loose.
Edit: what I perceive as your dislike for conflict may be E9 related, now that I think of it. I can see that is an area where you and I differ since I tend to find myself in conflict just to experience it and find creative ways out of it. Not sure if that is type related though. I don't usually back out of conflict even though I have 459 at tritype. I just don't like to hurt feelings, most of the time and I would say I might have a bit of a preference for drama over actual conflict. I am not sure where you stand on drama exactly but it seems you would rather be without it.
Last edited by Aylen; 08-24-2014 at 01:45 PM.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
@Aylen, your response was so sweet that I feel like an elephant in porcelain store now Elina, I actually had nothing against your IEI typing at first (Aylen's intuition is probably much stronger than mine ), but the more I've seen you interact with other members here in the shoutbox, I've noticed that you naturally fit in much more with delta/gamma crowd. Please don't take it the wrong way, I love chatting with you, but I just sense your distaste for amping the emotional atmosphere in a Fe way. So for that reason I have a really difficult time seeing you as Fe ego. This video just conformed my previous impressions. And believe me, I didn't want to respond at first for the same reasons, as I really don't want to cause any hurt feelings.
I know how hard this was to do.
@Elina
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Nice interview, could've been longer.
EP > IP // pretty obstinate "if you take away my sense of hearing i'll look for another way of making music, or kill myself".
Don't see IEI, but i can't really type you, i'm mezmerized by your face and charm Are you a female baby giraffe?!?!?!?!
God, this is the most emotional and caring typing thread I have ever experienced. I don't care what your type is Elina because you are still my tribe and I am pretty sure others feel the same. I need to go balance my chakras or something.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
She's a serious vibe but it'd different than gamma serious... It still maintains openness, perceptiveness, and nonjudgey (gamma Sfs are judgey and closeminded when they come to conclusions and it's hard to argue with them unless you do so in a Te way). Definitely not Ne/Si nor appreciates too much Si (omg Si people annoy me at school/work by asking step by step questions for everything...... It's like they can not figure anything out for themselves the first time doing something... Tho I still find Si people lovely at times).
She's receptive to Se and finds a light type of humor about it. Not easily offended, seems positivist> negativist. Bit of an edge that comes with maturity.
I stick with IEI-Ni and e9 seems to fit as well.
She is closed/superficial, more based upon her own notions than perceptive, and very judgemental.
She hides this probably because she's trying to make finds then and attract a potential mate.
She is easily offended. I don't know how you can see her as being non-easily offended. She misinterprets things and takes things the wrong way, and takes offence when none is even meant.school/work by asking step by step questions for everything...... It's like they can not figure anything out for themselves the first time doing something... Tho I still find Si people lovely at times).
She's receptive to Se and finds a light type of humor about it. Not easily offended, seems positivist> negativist. Bit of an edge that comes with maturity.
I stick with IEI-Ni and e9 seems to fit as well.
Last edited by Satan; 08-24-2014 at 07:28 PM.
hehehehehehe.... says the dude who tries so hard to be "detached" and "cool"....
She's not as easily offended as many Fi egos is what I'm saying. They are the easiest type to piss off. I include myself in this statement. So comparable so: yes, she is not easily offended.
I hardly doubt she is living to find a mate. She isn't marista.
This looks like a potential thread of a looooooot of pages.
Taking her popcorn:
i dont really see any benefit to jumping into the discussion with @mercutio and @blackburry lol.
as for @Elina being easily offended..its not something ive noticed myself but my interactions with her have always been pretty superficial and in a group. but i do notice her being extra careful to not offend other people.
I liked this thread better when I was all emo and I liked our little group better when you two talked to each directly.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
i could see ESI, but your movements seem very fluid, sort of like you're moving underwater, which is really interesting to me because i can't do that. i've tried and failed, fwiw. IJ types tend to make angles (if that makes sense) or they don't move much at all. it's a bit mesmerizing watching you move.
whenever you make a point, your eyes widen as if to say "i know right?". not sure if that's type related but that's something some Fe-egos in my life do, and this is something that tipped me towards IEI in the first place.
your pet peave being people who comment on everything or give too much detail is a very Ni + Fe thing to say. (too many details = Te + Si domain) this is something my IEI friend has said to me almost verbatim.
the fact that you come off as well-rounded, stable, and mature is what is throwing people off of your self-typing, i think. maybe you're not IEI, but the reasons being given right now are closer to "but you don't act like a whiny teenager!"
alternatives include: ESI, EIE, maybe SLE.
ahem! LSE puts the lotion on its skin or it gets the hose again.You're very pleasant and likeable (I can't say you're my favorite conflictor though, people like truck would get mad at me).
After watching all the videos I can't decide between IEE and IEI. But imo you're one of these EIE, ESI and SEE I don't agree with.
Some observations:
Your eyes tend to dart around quickly. Were you nervous?
You speak faster than I imagined you would. Sometimes I think I am speaking that fast only to have people tell me I am not speaking fast at all. It is strange because I am totally speeding inside and it does not show outwardly.
Your energy feels higher in this video but that could be because you are speaking to Olly.
It seems like you are able to answer pretty quickly without a need to think about the questions and how you want to answer first. I mean the words seem to come very easy for you. Like you say they come quickly when you write. Do the beats come as easy as the words?
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung