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    Quote Originally Posted by ooo View Post
    I need some help. Is it possible to have access at this database: https://www.famo.ru/etalon/? Are there any other socionics celebrities databases around? I need big data.
    hmm I just looked through their ILE typings and there are quite a handful of examples that I disagree with. I wonder if there will ever be a consensus on famous types...

    I mostly visit Gulenko's gallery of types. I agree with many of his typings:

    https://socioniks.net/famouspeople/

    I also remember visiting this site occasionally:

    http://dm.sakinorva.net/index

    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    You can try Sedecology: www.sedecology.com
    cool, I've just created an account. in general, I don't pay much attention to other people's typings. It's better to research the type yourself. I feel like most people don't know enough to type people and it just confuses me when I'm confronted with an opposite opinion. I'm noticing it with this forum right now. there are many paradoxical typings from forum members.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    cool, I've just created an account. in general, I don't pay much attention to other people's typings. It's better to research the type yourself. I feel like most people don't know enough to type people and it just confuses me when I'm confronted with an opposite opinion. I'm noticing it with this forum right now. there are many paradoxical typings from forum members.
    "I feel like most people don't know enough to type people" - yes.

    The way to not get confused is to pay attention to people's arguments rather than their conclusions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    hmm I just looked through their ILE typings and there are quite a handful of examples that I disagree with. I wonder if there will ever be a consensus on famous types...
    yeah it's hard to reach consensus, some socionists I tend to like often have questionable typings too, I guess it depends on what they make out of their functions/descriptions/etc. For example Talanov has a massive databank and I agree with many of his typings, but even his methods are questionable, he created a lot of graphs and tests out of many people so to find patterns like "Delta NFs like bread" or other silly statements of the like, but point is.. who did he test? were they all russian people? russian people live in the past of 50 years in respect to the western world, how can we trust their stereotypes to apply worldwide?.. etc etc. Often though, you'll find diff typings but within a range of slight differences, for example there's who types Schwarzenegger as LSE or SLE, not that much of a difference.. and that's interesting too for the work I intend to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    I wonder if there will ever be a consensus on famous types...
    There is no good typing match even for special typing IRL interviews. In average, it was <20% in SRT-99 experiment.

    The concsensus can be when there will be objecively highly correct typing methods to trust. For famouses or others.

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    There is no good typing data about famouses, in general. Except for VI typing. It's easy to be misleaded.
    The typing skills can be very different, so the meaning of match mb very different too between concrete 2 typers.
    Typing matches gotten when people knew external opinions beforehand are higher than real would be, due to conformism.

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